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What would he do if Twitter closed his account?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I do not think he cares at all about Twitter. I think people would miss the fun. (probably those who protest the loudest would miss it the most). It is just a means to his popularity. Silly meme probably works pretty well, US and UK news are going crazy about it. So cheap. 20min will write about it tomorrow here but that is about it. He has a pretty tough meetings next few days so posting him wrestling somebody in an outrageous meme is totally strategic. So theatrical...while his critics are even more livid and reaching out for cursing him more efficiently, looking hard for mental diseases and bring out morals and ethics that they hardly follow themselves.
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I do not think he cares at all about Twitter. I think people would miss the fun. (probably those who protest the loudest would miss it the most). It is just a means to his popularity. Silly meme probably works pretty well, US and UK news are going crazy about it. So cheap. 20min will write about it tomorrow here but that is about it. He has a pretty tough meetings next few days so posting him wrestling somebody in an outrageous meme is totally strategic. So theatrical...while his critics are even more livid and reaching out for cursing him more efficiently, looking hard for mental diseases and bring out morals and ethics that they hardly follow themselves.
But that harks back to the point I was making earlier: he's coming the rabid blowhard routine on an almost daily basis to the point where nobody is particularly reacting any more. His "shock tactics" are no longer shocking and have slipped into some kind of perverted "norm".

It's like a barking, snarling dog which has the postman nervous for the first week of his post round then, when he sees it's just all wind and piss, he ignores it and gets on with his job.

He's just turning into a sad old fogey with a tired and threadbare routine.

By his own admission - he is a huge fan of twitter so he can by pass the media with his own fantasy version. Why wouldn't he "care about Twitter"?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Of course he is not going to publicly bash a cheap and pretty clever vehicle of his strategy: stay in media focus, make people laugh or outraged, while he is trying to move on with unpopular or straight up devisive political issues. I think it is working out, people are still busy reacting to whatever he wants. His tweet was all there was on last night on yank news channels. Personally - I don't think it is him tweeting, it's a stunt. And he probably well knows Twitter as much as Google et all are heavily influencing by censoring stuff and manipulating visibility of some political opinions, for him to "like" them. They are sereptitious about it. He is too big to censor, his team will be the first to point it out. My 2 cents.
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I wonder why the overreaction to the usual media drama. People are evidently outraged and horrified. Media are peeved since usually it is them that have control over exaggerating and making cash on it. Now he is doing it instead, showing them the middle finger, and probably not cashing it in, but successfully side-tracking and keeping the anti-PC war on. The reaction of people to this is amusing - the ever so authentic world leader, lol. It is obvious that everybody wants him to represent, have a certain role, shower the world with dignified decorum..While he is rolling with some guy on the ground. Classy. I think he is incredibly fast and not actually so authentic, it is quite well timed and strategic. I couldn't care less for the political situ at the moment, but do think the antipc-ness is probably not so bad for the society there. The vid must be his reaction to those three CNN journalists resigning. I wonder if CNN will last. All they do is just react to the Trump show at the moment, he has got them. Maybe it is not true...but it does feel like it. I still think he hires people to tweet for him, work on his visibility, image, popularity, etc. If not, then he is pretty authentic, I am amused.
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In prime time (M-Su and M-F), CNN averaged its highest 2Q delivery since 2003 (in both total viewers and among 25-54). During daytime (9am-4pm), CNN had its highest quarterly 25-54 delivery since 4Q 2008 and second highest total viewers level since 1Q 2003.
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Trump bashing CNN seems to be benefiting them, they should be thanking him.

Was it Henry Ford who said "I do not care what they say about me so long as they spell my name right"?

Or to put it another way the more a product is mentioned then the more attention it gets.
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What would he do if Twitter closed his account?
it would be hindering freedom of speech actually.

Nevertheless, him twitting about anything makes people more aware of daily life of a president.

For me interesting point is that he is allowed to have a phone with him all the time. I remember Obama's show with Bear Grylls where he had to ask for a Secret service guys phone to take a selfie and he said he is not allowed to carry a mobile with him.
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I'm agree. The level of infotainment irritates. Poor quality. I think they need Trump and scandals and ocassionally firing their journalists. What a stunt.

The only thing I appreciated last night was The New Yorker's Malcolm Gladwell (otherwise - it is a bit hard for me to relate and read that mag, got a bit turned off by self propagating intellectual snobbery and theoretical, leftist mental exercises) and his musings on yanks being hooked on diversity so much ("we are all amazing and different") that they cannot cooperate and feel united, don't know how. On any issue now. Their different and important ego needs to be heard so they do not talk to/with one another, including debates, but at eachother. He had a few valid points. He was observing debates where people were trying to reach a concensus (rare) and failed.
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...Or to put it another way the more a product is mentioned then the more attention it gets.
Works both ways. I think the "main stream media" deserves as much credit (or blame?) for Trump getting elected as Trump's own team. The amount of free media time he got compared to other candidates was mind-numbing. Network execs saw numbers rise when Trump was the lead story, so they kept leading with him. Still true today.

Surely the Morning Joe co-hosts are not so personally injured. They want more people to tune in to see what they say next about Trump, and then how they react to his reaction.
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Works both ways. I think the "main stream media" deserves as much credit (or blame?) for Trump getting elected as Trump's own team. The amount of free media time he got compared to other candidates was mind-numbing. Network execs saw numbers rise when Trump was the lead story, so they kept leading with him. Still true today.

Surely the Morning Joe co-hosts are not so personally injured. They want more people to tune in to see what they say next about Trump, and then how they react to his reaction.
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We not only get the President "we" voted for but the TV shows we deserve

I wonder if Trump realises he is driving up the ratings of the media that he is harshly criticising; is it all some cunning plan or does he really believe he is damaging the msm?
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Sadly true



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We not only get the President "we" voted for but the TV shows we deserve

I wonder if Trump realises he is driving up the ratings of the media that he is harshly criticising; is it all some cunning plan or does he really believe he is damaging the msm?
Not sure he cares, to be honest. He's a narcissist with a figure of 15 million followers flashing up every time he logs on - it must be like a drug to him.
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it would be hindering freedom of speech actually.

Not really, no more than Swisscom turning off my phone line.


But my question is more to do with what Mr Trump would actually do to bypass mainstream media should his Twitter account ever be suspended.
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Of course he is not going to publicly bash a cheap and pretty clever vehicle of his strategy: stay in media focus, make people laugh or outraged, while he is trying to move on with unpopular or straight up devisive political issues. I think it is working out, people are still busy reacting to whatever he wants. His tweet was all there was on last night on yank news channels. Personally - I don't think it is him tweeting, it's a stunt. And he probably well knows Twitter as much as Google et all are heavily influencing by censoring stuff and manipulating visibility of some political opinions, for him to "like" them. They are sereptitious about it. He is too big to censor, his team will be the first to point it out. My 2 cents.
"while he is trying to move on with unpopular or straight up divisive political issues." Maybe but a President has only limited powers so there is little he can really do that is not in the public gaze.
He can write executive orders but they are flimsy things; the next President can reverse them with a stroke of the pen or they are challenged in the courts.
The only real way to change things is to have a Bill passed by the House and the Senate, but that is proving not so easy and they are very public affairs; not behind closed doors!!
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But my question is more to do with what Mr Trump would actually do to bypass mainstream media should his Twitter account ever be suspended.
Why should Twitter suspend his account when he's not breaking any of their rules?

They have done it before with Milo Yiannopoulos and they are well within their rights to do so. However banning Trump could spell the beginning of the end for Twitter. Their share price is flat lining, they can't attract new users and they're not able to make much money through advertising.
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The only real way to change things is to have a Bill passed by the House and the Senate, but that is proving not so easy and they are very public affairs; not behind closed doors!!
you'd think that, and i do hope that the current version of healthcare/tax relief for the rich will fail. It was drafted largely in secret, by 13 Republican senators. (All male too, so much for women's health).

I really try not to be too distracted by the infantile crap Trump spews out on Twitter. It's absolutely cringeworthy (imho), and has little to do with leadership. It's more important to see what's going on in the background.
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What would he do if Twitter closed his account?
spend his time actually governing?
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you'd think that, and i do hope that the current version of healthcare/tax relief for the rich will fail. It was drafted largely in secret, by 13 Republican senators. (All male too, so much for women's health).

I really try not to be too distracted by the infantile crap Trump spews out on Twitter. It's absolutely cringeworthy (imho), and has little to do with leadership. It's more important to see what's going on in the background.
"It was drafted largely in secret" True, but was that a successful strategy?
They were supposed to vote on it last week but the vote was cancelled; mainly because there was no consensus amongst the GOP Senators but also a strong sub group who simply said they needed more time to read and understand it.

Clearly Trump is trying to divert people's attention from what is happening now but what is that for a strategy? The mid term elections are in 2018 and people have short memory retention periods so nobody will remember what Trump is posting now.

According to the polls Trump's popularity is v. low compared to past Presidents and passing a health bill that less than 20% of the population support is not going to improve his ratings.
Sooner or later the GOP will have to decide to either stick with supporting Trump for their candidates in the 2018 mid terms or turn on him.
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Why should Twitter suspend his account when he's not breaking any of their rules?

They have done it before with Milo Yiannopoulos and they are well within their rights to do so. However banning Trump could spell the beginning of the end for Twitter. Their share price is flat lining, they can't attract new users and they're not able to make much money through advertising.
That wasn't the question.

The question was "What would Trump do if Twitter closed or suspended his account?"
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That wasn't the question.

The question was "What would Trump do if Twitter closed or suspended his account?"
Oh come now, DB, have you never heard of duplicate troll accounts??
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That wasn't the question.

The question was "What would Trump do if Twitter closed or suspended his account?"
He can PM Faltrad to ask about creating duplicate accounts.

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aah, you beat me to it.
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That wasn't the question.

The question was "What would Trump do if Twitter closed or suspended his account?"
The real question is what would Trump do if some group of intelligent hackers hijacked his Twitter account and turned his tweets into cogent, carefully considered, insightful observations about the current state of affairs?
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