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That wasn't the question.

The question was "What would Trump do if Twitter closed or suspended his account?"
He'd probably put all his efforts into seeing Twitter fail. And back a competitor.
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I wonder why the overreaction to the usual media drama. People are evidently outraged and horrified. Media are peeved since usually it is them that have control over exaggerating and making cash on it. Now he is doing it instead, showing them the middle finger, and probably not cashing it in, but successfully side-tracking and keeping the anti-PC war on. The reaction of people to this is amusing - the ever so authentic world leader, lol. It is obvious that everybody wants him to represent, have a certain role, shower the world with dignified decorum..While he is rolling with some guy on the ground. Classy. I think he is incredibly fast and not actually so authentic, it is quite well timed and strategic. I couldn't care less for the political situ at the moment, but do think the antipc-ness is probably not so bad for the society there. The vid must be his reaction to those three CNN journalists resigning. I wonder if CNN will last. All they do is just react to the Trump show at the moment, he has got them. Maybe it is not true...but it does feel like it. I still think he hires people to tweet for him, work on his visibility, image, popularity, etc. If not, then he is pretty authentic, I am amused.
"everybody wants him to represent, have a certain role, shower the world with dignified decorum." I assume that when he attends meetings like the forthcoming G20 he will want the other world leaders to take him seriously, have discussions and agree positions.
The image he is portraying does not align with this, look at his initial enthusiasm about his meeting with the Chinese leader Xi

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It was a great honor to have President Xi Jinping and Madame Peng Liyuan of China as our guests in the United States. Tremendous
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While I greatly appreciate the efforts of President Xi & China to help with North Korea, it has not worked out. At least I know China tried!
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It's probably all his rants on Twitter that put new users off.
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He'd probably put all his efforts into seeing Twitter fail. And back a competitor.
It is just a question of time for Twitter to discredit itself..I am sure the competitors are already busy figuring out how to make it faster. They will welcome the US president (or his PR team) using their services

Why do people nag about his tweeting, beats me. He is manipulating masses through saturating their un-sophisticated needs while masses are busy criticizing him for being un-sophisticated. It is a bit nonsensical to criticize him for it as opposed to question the concept of popularity in American society. He gives what people crave. Media give what people crave. Yet there are some self proclaimed leaders of sophistication there that still continue to bark on the wrong tree.

What would people do if the tweets stopped or become normal and less entertaining, is probably more pertinent question. They would quickly find new Trump tweet effect in some other way and media or politicians would quickly use it as a vehicle for power.
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It is just a question of time for Twitter to discredit itself..I am sure the competitors are already busy figuring out how to make it faster. They will welcome the US president (or his PR team) using their services

Why do people nag about his tweeting, beats me. He is manipulating masses through saturating their un-sophisticated needs while masses are busy criticizing him for being un-sophisticated. It is a bit nonsensical to criticize him for it as opposed to question the concept of popularity in American society. He gives what people crave. Media give what people crave. Yet there are some self proclaimed leaders of sophistication there that still continue to bark on the wrong tree.

What would people do if the tweets stopped or become normal and less entertaining, is probably more pertinent question. They would quickly find new Trump tweet effect in some other way and media or politicians would quickly use it as a vehicle for power.
"He is manipulating masses through saturating their un-sophisticated needs" I find it hard to visualise that this part of Trump's base are sitting hunched over their smartphones waiting for tweets; more likely they are slumped in front of their TV's?
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The real question is what would Trump do if some group of intelligent hackers hijacked his Twitter account and turned his tweets into cogent, carefully considered, insightful observations about the current state of affairs?
If he ever regrets tweeting anything he can claim that is precisely what happened.
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What would people do if the tweets stopped or become normal and less entertaining, is probably more pertinent question. They would quickly find new Trump tweet effect in some other way and media or politicians would quickly use it as a vehicle for power.

You find the tweets entertaining? Seriously? I wish he would stop and act like a freaking adult rather than a petulant child.
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"He is manipulating masses through saturating their un-sophisticated needs" I find it hard to visualise that this part of Trump's base are sitting hunched over their smartphones waiting for tweets; more likely they are slumped in front of their TV's?
Wether they are at work watching on their cells some stunt he tweeted or watching the same replay million times at night on different news channels is irrelevant - people gobble it up. He worked hard to have both as a handy overlap. What audience probably does not want, is stillness. He knows.

He is delivering the message that he knows will work, in a format that will be successful for what he needs.

Some say - the best protection is ignoring him...I think the best protection (against any manipulation) is to think about motives. And not those that are being spewed over the media 24/7, these media have their own motives...just using Trump as a vehicle for them. Providing truthful and honest reporting and quality journalism is not one of them. How can it be, they would have no ratings, sadly.

Trump is funny. Can't imagine the Trump effect in a couple of years but as of now, things aren't the way they used to be and it might not be such a bad thing.
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Wether they are at work watching on their cells some stunt he tweeted or watching the same replay million times at night on different news channels is irrelevant - people gobble it up. He worked hard to have both as a handy overlap. What audience probably does not want, is stillness. He knows.

He is delivering the message that he knows will work, in a format that will be successful for what he needs.

Some say - the best protection is ignoring him...I think the best protection (against any manipulation) is to think about motives. And not those that are being spewed over the media 24/7, these media have their own motives...just using Trump as a vehicle for them. Providing truthful and honest reporting and quality journalism is not one of them. How can it be, they would have no ratings, sadly.

Trump is funny. Can't imagine the Trump effect in a couple of years but as of now, things aren't the way they used to be and it might not be such a bad thing.
""Whether they are at work watching on their cells" These unskilled, unemployed white men are either not at work or at best have minimum wage jobs where watching on their cells is not an option
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If he ever regrets tweeting anything he can claim that is precisely what happened.
Which was pretty much the standard excuse whenever some UKIP bozo came out with something idiotic.
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If he ever regrets tweeting anything he can claim that is precisely what happened.
I meant it the other way around. Imagine some group hacks his account and tweets something which yields him kudos from the MSM. The guy can neither recognise, nor own, his shortcomings, so there's no way on earth he could admit being hacked.

The press gets it wrong by supporting him and he can't shout "fake news". His head would explode.
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"while he is trying to move on with unpopular or straight up divisive political issues." Maybe but a President has only limited powers so there is little he can really do that is not in the public gaze.
He can write executive orders but they are flimsy things; the next President can reverse them with a stroke of the pen or they are challenged in the courts.
The only real way to change things is to have a Bill passed by the House and the Senate, but that is proving not so easy and they are very public affairs; not behind closed doors!!
As mentioned, executive orders are flimsy things
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The Trump administration has suffered a setback in its efforts tostrip away regulations as a federal court reversed a move to suspend an Obama-era pollution rule reviled by oil and gas companies.

The court ruled 2-1 that President Donald Trump’s Environmental Protection Agency did not have the authority to suspend the implementation of a rule on methane emissions, part of Barack Obama’s hoped-for legacy of action on climate change.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The comments!

'Your worst nightmare: a successful Donald Trump presidency'
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""Whether they are at work watching on their cells" These unskilled, unemployed white men are either not at work or at best have minimum wage jobs where watching on their cells is not an option
Why do you assume that Trump's base is made up only by unemployed or unemployable white males of certain ages? There're a lot of people from the more privileged classes and even minority groups (see the 30%/ or even 40% of "Latino" males if I recall correctly, btw) who voted for him...what made Trump powerful is all good deed doers really underestimating him and his impact on various groups. And it's still happening....incredible.

The same blindness in the Brexit case - I bet a lot of Brexiteers were also middle class or immigrants of Indian or Pakistani origins for example.

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Trump is funny.
Go home, you're drunk.
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After the "this video incites violence" CNN are really getting desperate.

White House stays silent on anti-Semitic connection of Trump's anti-CNN video
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Go home, you're drunk.
She has no such excuse, that seems to be how she is when she's stone-cold sober.
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Why do you assume that Trump's base is made up only by unemployed or unemployable white males of certain ages? There're a lot of people from the more privileged classes and even minority groups (see the 30%/ or even 40% of "Latino" males if I recall correctly, btw) who voted for him...what made Trump powerful is all good deed doers really underestimating him and his impact on various groups. And it's still happening....incredible.

The same blindness in the Brexit case - I bet a lot of Brexiteers were also middle class or immigrants of Indian or Pakistani origins for example.
"Why do you assume that Trump's base is made up only by unemployed or unemployable white males of certain ages?" I don't

But they are a significant sized sub group for a President who won with a small majority.
He promised them jobs in areas like coal mining and the auto industry also support for agriculture.
Before the second term election he will need to deliver or make more convincing promises to keep "swing" States like Pennsylvania, Iowa, Michigan and Ohio where this group makes the difference between winning and losing.
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