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09.07.2017, 13:58
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | State broadcasters should offer balanced opinion. Not one sided monologues. At least you have the choice to read the Sun or not. | | | | | And I have a choice of over 60 beaches within a 30min drive or debating with you. #siestaover #35degrees #Kifissiasun #cantbearsedwiththisshite Ta ta! | 
09.07.2017, 15:07
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09.07.2017, 15:09
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
Today's tweets, Grandad shuffled out of his bedroom again and went to G20 | Quote: |  | | | Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 1h
Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded and safe.
Questions were asked about why the CIA & FBI had to ask the DNC 13 times for their SERVER, and were rejected, still don't have it.
Fake News said 17 intel agencies when actually 4 (had to apologize). Why did Obama do NOTHING when he had info before election? | | | | | 1. Trump is forming a Cyber Security unit with Putin to stop election hacking  That is like turkeys voting for Christmas!
2. Putin was asking questions about the DNC server? - not believable.
3. The CIA was not involved in the DNC investigation  Old men do get confused about acronyms.
4. 4 [Intelligence Agencies] (had to apologize) From where does Trump have such strange fantasies?
I suppose Trump's next step will be to say he believed Putin and so Mueller the special prosecutor (or special counsel) is no longer needed!
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09.07.2017, 15:17
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I rather like this piece from the Miami Herald. http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/o...159712234.html
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"A party that once provided a sober conservative counterweight to the Democrats’ more liberal impulses has flat out lost its mind, given itself over to rage, fear, schoolyard taunts and bizarre conspiracy theories. Which leaves me impatient with those who frame our political divide as if the issue were that left and right had equally abandoned the center. No fair observer can believe that.
To the contrary, it becomes more obvious every day that we are where we are because something is very wrong with the GOP. To not acknowledge and report that, apparently out of some misguided notion that doing so wouldn’t be “fair and balanced” is, in itself, deeply unfair and unbalanced. In our terror of being called biased, we in media have neutered ourselves, abandoned our watchdog function.
We end up having mannered debates over whether to call the president’s dozens of lies lies. Meantime, America’s international prestige is eroding, its government is paralyzed, its friends are worried, its enemies emboldened."
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09.07.2017, 15:21
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Any proof the USA is in decline? Or are you just being a dipshit? | | | | | Trump is all the proof you need.
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09.07.2017, 15:22
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Trump is all the proof you need. | | | | | No it's not. That's the point.
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09.07.2017, 15:42
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Increasing income inequality, little or no improvement in infant mortality, maternal mortality, lowering of life expectancy in some groups, no real increase in income, decrease in minimum wage. All point to decline.
Actions by the white house to decrease press access point to some deterioration.
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09.07.2017, 15:47
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Any proof the USA is in decline? Or are you just being a dipshit? | | | | | | Quote: |  | | | I rather like this piece from the Miami Herald. http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/o...159712234.html
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We end up having mannered debates over whether to call the president’s dozens of lies lies. Meantime, America’s international prestige is eroding, its government is paralyzed, its friends are worried, its enemies emboldened." | | | | | - Trump's travel ban is sitting in the Supreme Court in-tray.
- The Obamacare repeal/replacement Bill has so little support they cannot even name a date for a vote in the Senate.
- Not one spade has touched the ground to start Trump's Mexican wall
- Xi and Putin are running circles around Trump
- After 160 days in office Trump has kept less than 9% of his campaign promises.
- US is no longer the leader of G20 or Climate Change
- Economy seems to be stalling (a strong job market and rising consumer confidence, but lower automotive and retail sales, and low overall consumer spending.)
- Trump’s planned tax reform is stalled in Congress,
- Trump's plans for massive infrastructure spending also stalled
- US GDP is around 1.4%; along way from the 3 to 4% promised by Trump.
Is that enough?
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09.07.2017, 16:41
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
How many months in office now? And they still can't get basic facts right.
"A formal statement from the White House was issued with a very public error - mixing up China and Taiwan.
A press release following Donald Trump's meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping at the G20 summit called him president "of the Republic of China".
That is the official name of Taiwan. Mr Xi is, in fact, President of the People's Republic of China.
Earlier, the White House had also labelled Shinzo Abe president of Japan. He is the prime minister." http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40547391
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09.07.2017, 17:27
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | - Trump's travel ban is sitting in the Supreme Court in-tray.
- The Obamacare repeal/replacement Bill has so little support they cannot even name a date for a vote in the Senate.
- Not one spade has touched the ground to start Trump's Mexican wall
- Xi and Putin are running circles around Trump
- After 160 days in office Trump has kept less than 9% of his campaign promises.
- US is no longer the leader of G20 or Climate Change
- Economy seems to be stalling (a strong job market and rising consumer confidence, but lower automotive and retail sales, and low overall consumer spending.)
- Trump’s planned tax reform is stalled in Congress,
- Trump's plans for massive infrastructure spending also stalled
- US GDP is around 1.4%; along way from the 3 to 4% promised by Trump.
Is that enough? | | | | | None of your points are relevant to whether the US is a country in decline or not.
The exception being "economy seems to be stalling", which it's not.
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09.07.2017, 17:32
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Increasing income inequality, little or no improvement in infant mortality, maternal mortality, lowering of life expectancy in some groups, no real increase in income, decrease in minimum wage. All point to decline.
| | | | | What you've described pretty much applies to all developed countries.
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09.07.2017, 17:37
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | None of your points are relevant to whether the US is a country in decline or not.
The exception being "economy seems to be stalling", which it's not. | | | | | Usual reply lacking any factual points or relevant references; just groundless opinion!
You ignored the following relevant facts;
Trump’s planned tax reform is stalled in Congress,
Trump's plans for massive infrastructure spending also stalled
US GDP is around 1.4%; along way from the 3 to 4% promised by Trump.
lower automotive and retail sales, and low overall consumer spending
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09.07.2017, 17:43
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Usual reply lacking any factual points or relevant references; just groundless opinion!
You ignored the following relevant facts;
Trump’s planned tax reform is stalled in Congress,
Trump's plans for massive infrastructure spending also stalled
US GDP is around 1.4%; along way from the 3 to 4% promised by Trump.
lower automotive and retail sales, and low overall consumer spending | | | | | Lacking factual points? What, like Putin and Xi running circles around Trump? Where's your facts which prove this?
I couldn't care less about his tax reform or what GDP was promised by Trump. The point is the USA is not a country in decline.
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09.07.2017, 18:13
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Lacking factual points? What, like Putin and Xi running circles around Trump? Where's your facts which prove this?
I couldn't care less about his tax reform or what GDP was promised by Trump. The point is the USA is not a country in decline. | | | | | Of course you are correct, the level of GDP is not a measure of how well a country is doing.
Of course any country unable to pass important legislation is in decline.
I am sure if you keep repeating your opinion that the USA is not a country in decline it will magically recover | 
09.07.2017, 18:35
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Of course you are correct, the level of GDP is not a measure of how well a country is doing. 
Of course any country unable to pass important legislation is in decline. 
I am sure if you keep repeating your opinion that the USA is not a country in decline it will magically recover  | | | | | North Korea can pass any legislation it wants.
1.4% GDP growth is GROWTH.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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09.07.2017, 23:52
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | There was a time when world leaders were queuing up to shake hands and be photographed next to the American President, but now he is politely ignored or at best tolerated like someone else's hyperactive toddler. | | | | | They're probably still pissy that Trump is focused on the interests of the US rather than their country's.
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10.07.2017, 00:14
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | North Korea can pass any legislation it wants.
1.4% GDP growth is GROWTH.
You have no idea what you are talking about. | | | | | You admit you are losing when you resort to insults | 
10.07.2017, 00:50
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | North Korea can pass any legislation it wants.
1.4% GDP growth is GROWTH.
You have no idea what you are talking about. | | | | | When you say North Korea, do you mean the Republic of North Korea with Kim Jong-un as its president? | 
10.07.2017, 02:22
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | They're probably still pissy that Trump is focused on the interests of the US rather than their country's. | | | | | Yeah.......focused on the interests of his family and friends, not the US in general....especially the loosers in flyover country who voted him in. Suckers.
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10.07.2017, 07:44
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Yeah.......focused on the interests of his family and friends, not the US in general....especially the loosers in flyover country who voted him in. Suckers. | | | | | Are you implying that in other capitalist countries the political party in power does not give most contracts to companies owned by friends and family? At least the USA has laws governing such things while in other places like Switzerland every gemeinde do to please the corporation that has incorporated and controlls that land...
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