Theoretically you are correct but practically deporting 11 million is not possible, the current deportation rate is lower than the birth rate

Which is why there needs to be an orderly, transparent and fair system permitting people to come and do those jobs. As in there has to be a set of criteria and if you fulfil those, you can come and work. If you don't fulfil those you can't come. Period. No pandering or looking away or different rule sets for different people.

The proof of the pudding should be in the eating. If anybody feels their job is being taken away, they should be given an opportunity to come and do that job. Let them walk the talk.

In Switzerland we have things like L permits for those jobs. I really cannot understand this "illegality is necessary" attitude.

Just because a system broke down somewhere along the road is not a reason not to seek to fix it.

You don't need to physically send the cops around to knock on every door.

Just make it clear that we are fixing the system and creating an orderly and fair and transparent system that permits people to come in and seek work without it taking forever or requiring unreasonable feats. If you chose to not you use that system, you are liable to sanctions if found out, as is your employer. I think many people who are illegal don't want to be illegal and they will use the system.

I agree with you. In principle. In practice, an orderly system will take work and negotiation. Given that the US govt seems to be unable to do much of anything in terms of laws, etc, The process of restructuring immigration looms large. It would be like collaborating with 50 Switzerlands (states/regions run their own programs with some programs run at the federal level. There are gray areas throughout, lots of things left to judgement. And, not sure how data systems are now, but it used to be that very little was centralized. So yeah, a fair program is a great idea. For now it's easier to raid and arrest. And in the name of fairness, that's why I believe in some form of time limited amnesty.

Tom

would be great on a gril!

This is a really good point. Lots of undocumented workers come over via brokers. Are the brokers made to be accountable when discovered? And what happens when an undocumented family has a kid in the US? The kid is a US citizen.

agriculture and construction benefit the most by cheap labor. Demand for that is at least part of the equation.

so crude

Hope it's sashimi, I wouldn't grill it.

Something fishy is afoot here...

If you are talking about an amnesty then fair enough.
There is no legal process that will deal with 11 million people; there are just not enough people to enforce.
Despite Trump authorising a big increase in numbers of enforcers the reality is they have been unable to recruit enough people to even meet the pre-Trump allowed headcount.

There are already sanctions in place with a maximum penalty of $21,563 for hiring illegal immigrants.

Donald Trump Jr. releases email chain on his Russian meeting.

One email, from publicist Rob Goldstone, claimed the information was part of "Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump."

"If it's what you say I love it," Trump Jr. replied, according to the email he released.

Source

One US newspaper is claiming this could be considered treason

Democrat Schiff says Trump Jr.'s Russia meeting 'violation of oath of citizenship'

Another US newspaper, more charitably, is claiming Donald Trump Jr. was dropped on his head as a child

Meanwhile the Republican led Senate has cut three weeks from the August recess/holiday so a vote on Healthcare in July is now very unlikely

Some retards seem to have mistaken the right to freedom of speech with the right to have an audience.

President Trump sued for blocking people on Twitter

Their argument is a bit more subtle than that, but nonetheless... yawn.

And yet another set of "retards" would be clutching at pearls and having an aneurysm if Trump's Twitter account was taken down.

Potato-potarto.

Perhaps you need a lesson on how Twitter works. Trump has 30 million Twitter followers. No one is forced to follow him. That is his audience. If his account was taken without him breaking the platform's rules or T&Cs, then that would an action against freedom of speech. HTH.

Still, the illegal parent will get deported, tearing the family apart. I think Obama tried to have changed by Executive order but got blocked by the courts.

Well, he is making official statements as the President from this account (he probably shouldn't be, but hey, he's a Maverick!) so blocking citizens who disagree with him from access to official presidential statements probably isn't constitutional, I suppose.

Which rules from the T&Cs did the followers he blocked break?

By the way, how many of his 30 million followers are fake? Last count was approximately half.

None, but Trump probably didn't want keep receiving abuse from them. Which is what the block button is for. Hence no right to an audience.

According to this half his users are fake. Doesn't change anything though.