Will Trump be a Good President? - Page 408

marton · #**8141** 30.07.2017, 13:31

	Quote:
	Not really interested in Scaramucci, except to say he appears to be a bit of a Thug. If his wife wants to divorce him, that's her business and I agree that it should remain a private matter. It muddies the water too - when people need to follow what's happening in government, such as it is, rather than soap opera drama. What I find disturbing are, for example, two of Trump's tweets today... "If a new HealthCare Bill is not approved quickly, BAILOUTS for Insurance Companies and BAILOUTS for Members of Congress will end very soon!" And "Unless the Republican Senators are total quitters, Repeal & Replace is not dead! Demand another vote before voting on any other bill!" So he's a bully, not a leader and he doesn't understand how the branches of government work. The other point is that while everyone is admiring McCain, it really was Collins and Murkowski who set the stage. Trump threatened them too, but not McCain. Again with the bullying.....and i know it's not chic here to point out gender bias, but Trump mostly threatens and denigrates women. Another female senator, Democrat Mazie Hirono made a special effort to get back to cast a vote - she's recovering from cancer surgery. But her story wasn't widely known either.

As someone else posted Trump just wants a tick in the box; he does not care about the content of the Bill. During his campaign he promised to replace Obamacare with something that would cover everyone and cost less. Now he is pushing a Bill that will cause many millions to lose Healthcare plus increase costs by 20% which is opposite to his campaign promises.

I do not believe his bullying helps his case, probably has the opposite effect?
Also interesting to speculate how much influence Trumps many tweets in the past insulting McCain had on McCain's decision on his final vote.

On the other if Trump does get the Bill passed & millions of his base lose their Healthcare then they might finally notice that everything in the garden is not rosy. But nobody wants millions of Americans to suffer and die, apart from Trump and many GOP Senators

marton · #**8142** 30.07.2017, 13:44

Hackers at at a competition in Las Vegas were able to successfully breach the software of U.S. voting machines in just 90 minutes on Friday, illuminating glaring security deficiencies in America's election infrastructure.

Source

Urs Max · #**8143** 30.07.2017, 16:39

	Quote:	curley
	That's my private* opinion, so carry on, I'll keep out of it*

No longer, it's public now

Urs Max · #**8144** 30.07.2017, 17:15

	Quote:	marton
	Hackers at at a competition in Las Vegas were able to successfully breach the software of U.S. voting machines in just 90 minutes on Friday, illuminating glaring security deficiencies in America's election infrastructure. Source

I'm not sure that means that much.

The voting machines appear to be offline, otherwise there would be more methods of remote access than WiFi only. I guess that's why all methods mentioned require either physical access or nearby presence (WiFi is short range).

As a consequence the methods mentioned can't be used to hack thousands machines simultaneously. While ability to hack a single or a (relatively) small number of machines is something that needs addressing, it's not that important in the grander schemem of things and highly unlikely to have a material effect as you probably have thousands of machines in one state alone.

The real threat is if hackers got access to the software development envireonment or distribution mechanism as that would allow manipulation of a big number of machines. But even that kind of access would be limited to one state's machines as each uses its own.

marton · #**8145** 30.07.2017, 17:33

	Quote:	Urs Max
	I'm not sure that means that much. The voting machines appear to be offline, otherwise there would be more methods of remote access than WiFi only. I guess that's why all methods mentioned require either physical access or nearby presence (WiFi is short range). As a consequence the methods mentioned can't be used to hack thousands machines simultaneously. While ability to hack a single or a (relatively) small number of machines is something that needs addressing, it's not that important in the grander scheme of things and highly unlikely to have a material effect as you probably have thousands of machines in one state alone. The real threat is if hackers got access to the software development envireonment or distribution mechanism as that would allow manipulation of a big number of machines. But even that kind of access would be limited to one state's machines as each uses its own.

If the machines have WiFi then it must be planned to connect them to a network for purposes like software updates or distributing results then they will be vulnerable via the network?
Article here.

Verbier · #**8146** 30.07.2017, 21:46

The Russians are not happy with Mr. T.

The are expelling 755 US diplomats. Should be interesting.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7868096.html

#**8147** 30.07.2017, 21:50

	Quote:	FrankZappa
	Absolutely right, but the discussion started with Odile being told that her opinion didn't count because she is not American, which is daft, especially as the person making the point is hardly American either...

Et voilà - merci - simple.

marton · #**8148** 30.07.2017, 23:07

	Quote:	Verbier
	The Russians are not happy with Mr. T. The are expelling 755 US diplomats. Should be interesting. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7868096.html

755??
Trump will be happy,he wants to cut the State Department budget!

#**8149** 30.07.2017, 23:15

For opera lovers

https://youtu.be/Hz7SfkhJe74

And fans of Gilbert and Sullivan

https://youtu.be/xCIpC3Jpj4A

rainer_d · #**8150** 30.07.2017, 23:24

Expelling such a high number of diplomats is quite unusual (IMO).

I used to think, it's something to do ahead of a war.

Reminds me a bit of how the world literally stumbled into World War 1.

And people used to be afraid in the 60s and 80s.

Can you imagine someone from that time waking up today and seeing this...charade?

They'd move straight to the bunker in the basement.

marton · #**8151** 30.07.2017, 23:26

	Quote:
	For opera lovers https://youtu.be/Hz7SfkhJe74 And fans of Gilbert and Sullivan https://youtu.be/xCIpC3Jpj4A

It is difficult to see how Trump will get his act together and meet his legislation goals.
There are a lot of divisions within the GOP and Trump is not trying to pull them together and lead them; conversely he is bullying them.

Also instead of offering a hand of friendship to the Democrats he is constantly attacking them; often in coarse terms. Consequently I do not see any Democrats crossing the aisle and voting for legislation supported by Trump?

st2lemans · #**8152** 30.07.2017, 23:27

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	If you dump your nationality, give back your passport, don't pay taxes, give up your vote - your opinion does not count for much, surely.

My children, siblings, and parents still are US citizens.

How many of yours are?

Also, what do taxes have to do with it? US citizens need to fill out US tax forms, they don't normally need to pay US taxes.

I also stopped voting in US elections immediately I became Swiss, as I didn't like the idea of splitting my loyalty.

Tom

curley · #**8153** 30.07.2017, 23:45

	Quote:	marton
	Hackers at at a competition in Las Vegas were able to successfully breach the software of U.S. voting machines in just 90 minutes on Friday, illuminating glaring security deficiencies in America's election infrastructure. Source

“You can never really find, you know, there are going to be — no matter what numbers we come up with there are going to be lots of people that did things that we're not going to find out about,” Trump said in January. "But we will find out because we need a better system where that can't happen.”

Seriously? In Switzerland we say "mach es Sätzli" (build a sentence) in such cases.

Belgianmum · #**8154** 31.07.2017, 09:55

	Quote:	FrankZappa
	Absolutely right, but the discussion started with Odile being told that her opinion didn't count because she is not American, which is daft, especially as the person making the point is hardly American either...

I must have missed that bit amongst all the other noise on here. I don't really follow this thread tbh.

#**8155** 31.07.2017, 10:21

	Quote:	st2lemans
	My children, siblings, and parents still are US citizens. How many of yours are? Also, what do taxes have to do with it? US citizens need to fill out US tax forms, they don't normally need to pay US taxes. I also stopped voting in US elections immediately I became Swiss, as I didn't like the idea of splitting my loyalty. Tom

Maybe you should get them to post their relevant opinions on here then? Lord knows we all deserve a break.

#**8156** 31.07.2017, 10:35

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	I must have missed that bit amongst all the other noise on here. I don't really follow this thread tbh.

wise choice, indeed.

JagWaugh · #**8157** 31.07.2017, 10:41

	Quote:	curley
	Seriously? In Switzerland we say "mach es Sätzli" (build a sentence) in such cases.

The problem here is that a sentence should express a complete thought. To do that you need to be able to formulate a coherent thought.

#**8158** 31.07.2017, 11:12

	Quote:	st2lemans
	My children, siblings, and parents still are US citizens. How many of yours are? Also, what do taxes have to do with it? US citizens need to fill out US tax forms, they don't normally need to pay US taxes. I also stopped voting in US elections immediately I became Swiss, as I didn't like the idea of splitting my loyalty. Tom

But that does not make your opinion any more valuable than any other non citizen, sorry. Not here. In fact, US citizens opinions aren't more valuable. Not here, anyway.

Actually, I think everyone's entitled to express an opinion on this, even if you are not a citiren. For sure, some people are more or less informed, and others are blinded by prejudice regardless of voting staus. Look at the level of understanding and bias among US citizens. On the other hand, don't.

#**8159** 31.07.2017, 11:20

We do have relatives and friends dotted all over the USA - but thank goodness none of our children and grandchildren. Some are Trump supporters, who like you, still think he will be a good President- and who would have happily got rid of Obama and his whole family if they could. They would have preferred to scupper the country than support him. It has indeed created a big rift in the family, sadly. We shall certainly never meet them again. Differing opinions are fine- but the sheer bile and racism they displayed is not. Sad.

However- if Trump begins to play nukes with Kim Jung and Putin - the fact my children and grandchildren live in the UK rather than the US- would become tragically irrelevant.

Fact is, and that is totally fine, that you have chosen, voluntarily, to give up your USA nationality and your voting rights - so not sure your opinion has more validity than anyone else's. Fact.

TobiasM · #**8160** 31.07.2017, 12:00

I think the title of this thread needs to change, to something like "will Trump last out his first Term?"

Trump is obviously not a good POTUS. He has had more holidays and golf trips so far in his first year then any other President, he has had more bills rejected and overturned, his Administration is in complete turmoil and has been since day one. He won't be able to fulfil his promises as they are mostly based on lies and fabricated figures. He Tweets his idiocy constantly. He has alienated himself from most World leaders including Americas allies. (Britain aside, but we are just desperate). His diplomacy is non existent and nobody takes him seriously his only international leverage is being commander and chief of the most powerful military in the world with his fingers too close to the red button. For any Trump supporters out there, I would recommend watching Dr Strangelove.