Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics
View Poll Results: Will Trump be a good President?
Yes 71 27.41%
No 188 72.59%
Voters: 259. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #8161  
Old 31.07.2017, 11:16
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 9,000
Groaned at 300 Times in 259 Posts
Thanked 12,725 Times in 7,003 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

"The Senate should not vote on anything else until it’s voted again on repealing Obamacare", White House budget director Mick Mulvaney said Sunday.

Mulvaney said that “yes,” it's official White House policy that the Senate shouldn’t hold a vote on another issue — not even an imminent crisis like raising the debt ceiling— until the Senate votes again on health care.

Source

Risky policy for the White House, if as is likely the Senate ignores WH policy then WH is shown to be weak.

If the Senate follows the WH policy then important legislation like debt ceiling, 2018 budget, infrastructure and tax reform will be delayed with possible consequences.

Even if the Senate manages to scrape together enough votes to pass healthcare then they have to go back to the House for agreement and they are in recess!
__________________
It is naive to assume my posts are my own work

Last edited by marton; 31.07.2017 at 11:44.
Reply With Quote
  #8162  
Old 31.07.2017, 11:16
Dougal's Breakfast's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 17,343
Groaned at 1,103 Times in 856 Posts
Thanked 46,676 Times in 14,446 Posts
Dougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
And I don't care what non US persons think on the matter.
Quote:
View Post
Fact is, and that is totally fine, that you have chosen, voluntarily, to give up your USA nationality and your voting rights - so not sure your opinion has more validity than anyone else's. Fact.
I never could remember how to spell non secateur...
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Dougal's Breakfast for this useful post:
  #8163  
Old 31.07.2017, 11:23
StirB's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zurich
Posts: 2,692
Groaned at 91 Times in 81 Posts
Thanked 4,225 Times in 1,819 Posts
StirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
I never could remember how to spell non secateur...
Non US person doesn't care what Non US people think about a topic. Very rhetorically meta.

In other US news, some quality thinking going on over there:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a7793016.html
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank StirB for this useful post:
  #8164  
Old 31.07.2017, 11:45
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 9,000
Groaned at 300 Times in 259 Posts
Thanked 12,725 Times in 7,003 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
I never could remember how to spell non secateur...
You are going pruning?
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank marton for this useful post:
  #8165  
Old 31.07.2017, 13:24
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 9,000
Groaned at 300 Times in 259 Posts
Thanked 12,725 Times in 7,003 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
"The Senate should not vote on anything else until it’s voted again on repealing Obamacare", White House budget director Mick Mulvaney said Sunday.

Mulvaney said that “yes,” it's official White House policy that the Senate shouldn’t hold a vote on another issue — not even an imminent crisis like raising the debt ceiling— until the Senate votes again on health care.

Source

Risky policy for the White House, if as is likely the Senate ignores WH policy then WH is shown to be weak.

If the Senate follows the WH policy then important legislation like debt ceiling, 2018 budget, infrastructure and tax reform will be delayed with possible consequences.

Even if the Senate manages to scrape together enough votes to pass healthcare then they have to go back to the House for agreement and they are in recess!
In January, Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) laid out a 200-day agenda at the joint Senate-House retreat in Philadelphia that projected House passage of ObamaCare repeal in March, a budget for fiscal year 2018 in April, tax reform by the August recess and reauthorization of the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) in July.

Fast forward to July 31, and all of those priorities are in limbo.

Source

Quotes;
“The White House is providing zero leadership. Zero. If anything, they’re making things more difficult and that’s not going to change,” said former Rep. Jim Walsh (R-N.Y.), a longtime member of the powerful Appropriations Committee.

Another Republican strategist, Chip Saltsman, noted Trump hasn’t demonstrated a lot of steady, quiet work behind the scenes to get things done. “If that’s happened, we haven’t seen it,” he chuckled.
__________________
It is naive to assume my posts are my own work
Reply With Quote
  #8166  
Old 31.07.2017, 14:10
Rob's Avatar
Rob Rob is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Baden AG
Posts: 451
Groaned at 8 Times in 7 Posts
Thanked 1,207 Times in 475 Posts
Rob has a reputation beyond reputeRob has a reputation beyond reputeRob has a reputation beyond reputeRob has a reputation beyond reputeRob has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
You are going pruning?
Shear genius.
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank Rob for this useful post:
  #8167  
Old 31.07.2017, 14:35
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 9,000
Groaned at 300 Times in 259 Posts
Thanked 12,725 Times in 7,003 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
Donald J. Trump‏@realDonaldTrump 10 minutes ago
More
If ObamaCare is hurting people, & it is, why shouldn't it hurt the insurance companies & why should Congress not be paying what public pays?
These rather nasty and bullying threats are first to stop paying money to insurance companies to subsidise health insurance costs for the poorest people in the US.

Secondly to change the current practice where Congress (like private sector employers who pay 75% of their employee insurance costs) contributes to insurance costs for their elected members and also all employees who work in Congress. Not sure if the WH employees also get this same subsidy from Congress or it is paid from elsewhere?

Last edited by marton; 31.07.2017 at 15:06.
Reply With Quote
  #8168  
Old 31.07.2017, 15:28
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Kt Zrh
Posts: 5,551
Groaned at 31 Times in 30 Posts
Thanked 8,263 Times in 3,560 Posts
edot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
These rather nasty and bullying threats are first to stop paying money to insurance companies to subsidise health insurance costs for the poorest people in the US.

Secondly to change the current practice where Congress (like private sector employers who pay 75% of their employee insurance costs) contributes to insurance costs for their elected members and also all employees who work in Congress. Not sure if the WH employees also get this same subsidy from Congress or it is paid from elsewhere?
Do you have a source for your 75% from private sector companies? I have friends employed in private sector jobs in the US and their employers are not paying 75%. Not with deductibles of 4000 or 6000.

Also, unlike a private company, congressional employees are federal government. Taxpayers are footing the bill. I don't think it is completely fair to compare their coverage to the private sector. But i suppose the question is how different are benefits in the legislative, judicial and executive branches of federal government when compared to a) other federal employees and b) private sector.

Withh all this nonsense it's becoming clearer that they just need to move to single payer, e.g., Medicare for all.
Reply With Quote
  #8169  
Old 31.07.2017, 17:06
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 9,000
Groaned at 300 Times in 259 Posts
Thanked 12,725 Times in 7,003 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I got the 75% from here, must have misread it - actually says 72%. No idea if it is correct?

About "Taxpayers are footing the bill." maybe so but I assume the Govt. have to offer competitive salaries and benefits or people would not work for them?

I understand the United States Capitol Police (USCP) are part of Congress so giving the people who protect you a big pay cut does not seem like a good idea
Reply With Quote
  #8170  
Old 31.07.2017, 20:51
HIAO's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Bellevue
Posts: 943
Groaned at 5 Times in 4 Posts
Thanked 2,282 Times in 630 Posts
HIAO has a reputation beyond reputeHIAO has a reputation beyond reputeHIAO has a reputation beyond reputeHIAO has a reputation beyond reputeHIAO has a reputation beyond reputeHIAO has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

After ten days of employment, Scaramucci has been removed from his role as Communications Director.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40782299
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank HIAO for this useful post:
  #8171  
Old 31.07.2017, 20:52
Rob's Avatar
Rob Rob is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Baden AG
Posts: 451
Groaned at 8 Times in 7 Posts
Thanked 1,207 Times in 475 Posts
Rob has a reputation beyond reputeRob has a reputation beyond reputeRob has a reputation beyond reputeRob has a reputation beyond reputeRob has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

So he's done the fandango.

https://www.google.ch/amp/www.market...C-2DBCDDEBB73B
Reply With Quote
The following 7 users would like to thank Rob for this useful post:
  #8172  
Old 31.07.2017, 20:53
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Küsnacht, Switzerland
Posts: 2,672
Groaned at 68 Times in 64 Posts
Thanked 6,177 Times in 2,889 Posts
Blueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

You really couldn't write this stuff...
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Blueangel for this useful post:
  #8173  
Old 31.07.2017, 20:55
cannut's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: canada
Posts: 6,647
Groaned at 179 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 5,822 Times in 3,196 Posts
cannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond reputecannut has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The WH is in need of new doors, Revolving door's exactly :-)
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank cannut for this useful post:
  #8174  
Old 31.07.2017, 20:56
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: USA, former Zurich
Posts: 2,050
Groaned at 14 Times in 14 Posts
Thanked 4,811 Times in 1,660 Posts
BokerTov has a reputation beyond reputeBokerTov has a reputation beyond reputeBokerTov has a reputation beyond reputeBokerTov has a reputation beyond reputeBokerTov has a reputation beyond reputeBokerTov has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
So he's done the fandango.
Quote:
View Post
You really couldn't write this stuff...
Thunderbolts and lightning very very frightening indeed...
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank BokerTov for this useful post:
  #8175  
Old 31.07.2017, 20:57
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Kt Zrh
Posts: 5,551
Groaned at 31 Times in 30 Posts
Thanked 8,263 Times in 3,560 Posts
edot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond reputeedot has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
I got the 75% from here, must have misread it - actually says 72%. No idea if it is correct?
I just don't believe the 72% figure. That's a select, lucky group.


Watching this crap is like picking a scab. It hurts, you know it's not the best strategy, but you can't stop.
Reply With Quote
  #8176  
Old 31.07.2017, 21:00
3Wishes's Avatar
Moderately Amused
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bern area
Posts: 8,359
Groaned at 55 Times in 51 Posts
Thanked 12,784 Times in 5,980 Posts
3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

mama mia!
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank 3Wishes for this useful post:
  #8177  
Old 31.07.2017, 21:01
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Misery, but not the SoT one
Posts: 19,313
Groaned at 347 Times in 265 Posts
Thanked 14,145 Times in 8,133 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

At this rate he'll have no staff left!
Reply With Quote
  #8178  
Old 31.07.2017, 21:04
Rob's Avatar
Rob Rob is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Baden AG
Posts: 451
Groaned at 8 Times in 7 Posts
Thanked 1,207 Times in 475 Posts
Rob has a reputation beyond reputeRob has a reputation beyond reputeRob has a reputation beyond reputeRob has a reputation beyond reputeRob has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

He's just a poor boy from a poor family.
Reply With Quote
The following 6 users would like to thank Rob for this useful post:
  #8179  
Old 31.07.2017, 21:07
JagWaugh's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Eglisau
Posts: 6,974
Groaned at 49 Times in 48 Posts
Thanked 13,335 Times in 5,244 Posts
JagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
He's just a poor boy from a poor family.
Beelzebub doesn't need to put a devil aside for him, he's fully equipped with his own.
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank JagWaugh for this useful post:
  #8180  
Old 31.07.2017, 21:13
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 9,000
Groaned at 300 Times in 259 Posts
Thanked 12,725 Times in 7,003 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Quote:
View Post
After ten days of employment, Scaramucci has been removed from his role as Communications Director.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40782299
He got Reince Priebus out; his job was finished

Now Priebus is gone Trump has lost his best and major link to the Republican party; maybe Trump will turn independent?
If Trump tells his base that Republicans are the enemy then most of them will believe him
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Will Hillary Clinton run for president again? PanFastic International affairs/politics 159 09.10.2018 02:31
Poll: Will Trump win the 2020 elections? k_and_e International affairs/politics 14 05.06.2018 22:06
A generic "will my salary be good enough" post Larsh Employment 51 12.12.2017 12:51
Will Trump be the next US President? Phil_MCR International affairs/politics 2618 14.11.2016 11:16
Shall I inform my employer that I will be self employed or be a owner of a company? Broth76 Business & entrepreneur 6 09.07.2012 16:59


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 21:26.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0