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03.08.2017, 01:08
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
Just 33% of American voters approve of how President Donald Trump is performing as president, a new Quinnipiac University poll has found.
Trump's numbers declined more among Republicans than they did among Democrats. In late June, 84% of Republicans approved of Trump's performance -- now, 76% of Republicans say the same. Source
Six months in, Trump had the worst approval rating of any president since modern polling began.
Incidentally Trump is claiming leaders from Mexico City to Boy Scouts headquarters are lighting up his phone line with praise.
But contrariwise these leaders are saying they did not speak with Trump on the phone!
Now the White House has admitted there were no phone calls! Source | 
03.08.2017, 03:40
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | yes i agree. the joke was on trump | | | | | First the ladies shake hands while the gents do likewise, then the women shake hands with the men.
There was no joke, nobody got ignored, this was fake news indeed. Quite the contrary, protocol was followed to the dot on the i.
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03.08.2017, 03:43
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Lost his job, wife and missed the birth of his child; no rational explanation! | | | | | Say what you want about the Mooch but at least he delivered.
He promised to fire everybody and completed the job in ten days. Almost as efficient as god almighty himself.
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03.08.2017, 10:05
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Quite the contrary, protocol was followed to the dot on the i. | | | | | What a shame no-one thought to inform the Trump  .
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03.08.2017, 10:24
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Trump did sign the Bill which not only increases Russian sanctions but severely limits Trump's ability to remove/reduce the sanction.
Not that Trump had much choice; the House overwhelmingly backed the bill, 419-3, and the Senate rapidly followed their lead on a 98-2 vote. Those overwhelming margins guaranteed that Congress would be able to veto any attempt by Trump to reject the measure.
Astonishing display of lack of trust in their own President  Source | | | | | The White House announced the signing saying the bill includes "a number of clearly unconstitutional provisions".
That is strange, in other countries when a Bill goes through due process and becomes law then it cannot be challenged on constitutional grounds?
There may well be legal challenges requesting interpretation of a new law versus existing laws but that is not the same thing as unconstitutional.
Is the US legal system so different?
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03.08.2017, 12:10
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | The White House announced the signing saying the bill includes "a number of clearly unconstitutional provisions".
That is strange, in other countries when a Bill goes through due process and becomes law then it cannot be challenged on constitutional grounds?
There may well be legal challenges requesting interpretation of a new law versus existing laws but that is not the same thing as unconstitutional.
Is the US legal system so different? | | | | | Which other countries are you referring to? As far as I can recall laws can be challenged as being unconstitutional...
And also, just because Trump says it is unconstitutional does not make it so. Especially given the provisions he is referring to.
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03.08.2017, 12:29
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | say what you want about the mooch but at least he delivered.
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03.08.2017, 13:05
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | It's very much an alpha domination thing. I work with people who get massively p*ssed off if someone does what Putin did (i.e. turn hands so you are on top / dominant), i've seen stand up arguments because of it.
It's a power-play, and surprise, surprise, Putin came out top again. | | | | | Yup, Putin out-Trumped Trump this time.
Here's the perfect way to humiliate the alpha-handshaker: just grab his outstretched hand from the top.
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03.08.2017, 13:56
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Which other countries are you referring to? As far as I can recall laws can be challenged as being unconstitutional... | | | | | In Switzerland you can not. Once the law passed all steps it is the law, even when it contradicts the constitution.
It is also reasonable and logical in case of Switzerland. The highest authority is the people. They can veto any law by collecting 50k signatures from the voters. If that happens a popular vote will be held. If it passes it passed for good. As the very same voters have the power to change the constitution anyway they want. A Yes (or silent approval in case there is no veto) of the voter is the approval that an otherwise unconstitutional law is o.k.
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03.08.2017, 14:01
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Yup, Putin out-Trumped Trump this time.
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03.08.2017, 17:45
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? Trump reluctantly signs bill approving new sanctions against Russia
"The bill remains seriously flawed -- particularly because it encroaches on the executive branch's authority to negotiate. ... I built a truly great company worth many billions of dollars. That is a big part of the reason I was elected. As President, I can make far better deals with foreign countries than Congress."
"Our relationship with Russia is at an all-time & very dangerous low. You can thank Congress, the same people that can't even give us HCare!" https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
He doesn't seem happy. Wonder if his Russian business interests will be taking a knock!
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03.08.2017, 18:02
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | What a shame no-one thought to inform the Trump . | | | | | Not the first time, and most probably not the last | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | The White House announced the signing saying the bill includes "a number of clearly unconstitutional provisions".
That is strange, in other countries when a Bill goes through due process and becomes law then it cannot be challenged on constitutional grounds?
There may well be legal challenges requesting interpretation of a new law versus existing laws but that is not the same thing as unconstitutional.
Is the US legal system so different? | | | | | You got it the wrong way round.
There's probably a governmental agency that checks a proposal for possible unconstitutionalities, but until after it's been made actual law there's nothing for the court on the constitution to rule upon. It makes no sense to have it rule on proposals as the parliament is likely to change and amend what's been suggested.
Likewise for instance in Germany on the same-sex marriage law that recently passed: It's been challenged, the case is pending before the Bundesverfassungsgericht.
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03.08.2017, 18:37
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
Now Trump only wants immigrants who can speak English and well educated. What discrimination! The USA was built by immigrants -most uneducated and not speaking English.
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03.08.2017, 19:00
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Oh dear, leaked transcripts of his calls to the Mexican President and Aussie PM don't look good. Essentially, I need this for my approval ratings Trump to Peña Nieto: border wall not so important – just don't say you won't pay Report reveals leaked transcripts of phone call between US and Mexican presidents, in which Trump begs Peña Nieto not to tell press he won’t pay for wall
Donald Trump dismissed the importance of a border wall, his signature campaign issue, in a phone conversation with the president of Mexico.
“From an economic issue, it is the least important thing we were talking about, but psychologically, it means something,” Trump told Enrique Peña Nieto on 27 January in a phone call, a White House transcript of which was obtained and published by the Washington Post on Thursday.
The Post also published a transcript of Trump’s call on 28 January with Malcolm Turnbull, the prime minister of Australia, in which he tried to wriggle out of an Obama-era deal to resettle refugees currently held on the island of Nauru.
Much of the conversation focused on Trump’s acknowledgment that Mexico would not, in fact, pay for the wall – as he had repeatedly told supporters it would – and his need for Peña Nieto not to say so. The Mexican president had cancelled a planned visit to Washington over the issue.
Trump told the Mexican president: “The fact is we are both in a little bit of a political bind, because I have to have Mexico pay for the wall – I have to.”
Referring to the Mexican president’s insistence that he would not pay, Trump said: “You cannot say that to the press. The press is going to go with that and I cannot live with that. You cannot say that to the press because I cannot negotiate under those circumstances.”
Trump even threatened to cut off relations with Peña Nieto if he continued to insist that his country would not pay. “Because you and I are both at a point now where we are both saying we are not to pay for the wall,” said Trump. “From a political standpoint, that is what we will say.
“We cannot say that any more because if you are going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet with you guys any more because I cannot live with that.”
Trump offered military aid to deal with drug cartels, an offer or perhaps veiled threat first reported in February.
“You have some pretty tough hombres in Mexico that you may need help with, and we are willing to help you with that big-league,” Trump told Peña Nieto.
He later added, of the fight against organized crime: “Listen, I know how tough these guys are – our military will knock them out like you never thought of. We will work to help you knock them out because your country does not want that.”
Trump also dwelled on his immigration promises in his conversation with Turnbull.
“This is going to kill me,” he said. “I am the world’s greatest person that does not want to let people into the country.”
He added: “This deal will make me look terrible.”
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03.08.2017, 19:27
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What world leader says in public is different to what they say in private shocker. Especially if it concerns Israel.
With the amount of scrutiny on Trump, it's astounding that he can get anything done.
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03.08.2017, 19:55
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | With the amount of scrutiny on Trump, it's astounding that he can get anything done. | | | | | Those awful MSM, if only they would let him do his job.
Like, play golf at Mar-a-Lago.
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | The difference is that Trump only seems to care about his image and the lies he told on the campaign trail and not the country.
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Oh dear, leaked transcripts of his calls to the Mexican President and Aussie PM don't look good. | | | | | Oh-oh, doesn't look as if General Kelly has been able to fix those leaks! | This user would like to thank Reb77Br for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | The first is no surprise - many do this every day on normal jobs.
But that they actually think a conversation with the president of an other country is a private matter - THAT is astonishing!
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