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Old 03.08.2017, 20:53
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Those awful MSM, if only they would let him do his job.
The press should hold governments to account, but dissecting every tiny action is simply unnecessary. They're so desperate to get rid of Trump that journalists have had to resign for making up stories. And this isn't being done with American's interests at heart. For all his faults, Trump isn't Hitler or Mao or Mugabe. This is a witch hunt the like we have never seen before. Bill Clinton was banging half the White house and we never got a sniff until after Lewinsky. And the reason for this is because there's a huge number of people who still can't accept that he won the election.
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The press should hold governments to account, but dissecting every tiny action is simply unnecessary. They're so desperate to get rid of Trump that journalists have had to resign for making up stories. And this isn't being done with American's interests at heart. For all his faults, Trump isn't Hitler or Mao or Mugabe. This is a witch hunt the like we have never seen before. Bill Clinton was banging half the White house and we never got a sniff until after Lewinsky. And the reason for this is because there's a huge number of people who still can't accept that he won the election.
False equivalency. Banging vs appointing incompetents and getting nothing done.
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Old 03.08.2017, 22:05
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What world leader says in public is different to what they say in private shocker. Especially if it concerns Israel.

With the amount of scrutiny on Trump, it's astounding that he can get anything done.
Every President is under scrutiny but they do their job!

You know the saying " If it is too hot then get out of the kitchen"
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Old 03.08.2017, 22:07
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The press should hold governments to account, but dissecting every tiny action is simply unnecessary. They're so desperate to get rid of Trump that journalists have had to resign for making up stories. And this isn't being done with American's interests at heart. For all his faults, Trump isn't Hitler or Mao or Mugabe. This is a witch hunt the like we have never seen before. Bill Clinton was banging half the White house and we never got a sniff until after Lewinsky. And the reason for this is because there's a huge number of people who still can't accept that he won the election.
"we never got a sniff until after Lewinsky" I suppose you do not understand English slang?
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Old 03.08.2017, 23:43
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In Switzerland you can not. Once the law passed all steps it is the law, even when it contradicts the constitution.

It is also reasonable and logical in case of Switzerland. The highest authority is the people. They can veto any law by collecting 50k signatures from the voters. If that happens a popular vote will be held. If it passes it passed for good. As the very same voters have the power to change the constitution anyway they want. A Yes (or silent approval in case there is no veto) of the voter is the approval that an otherwise unconstitutional law is o.k.
Also interesting situation in the UK that has no written Constitution so what comprises the Constitution is debatable.

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The Congress, whenever two-thirds of both Houses [the House and the Senate] shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution . . ." Three-fourths of the states have to approve the amendment for it to become law.

The Russian sanctions Bill easily passed the "two-thirds of both Houses" rule so they just need three-fourths of the States to approve to make it Constitutionally bullet proof
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One step closer to impeachment. Grand jury convened.

"A special counsel investigating claims of Russian meddling in the US election has reportedly empanelled a grand jury.

The US media reports suggest Robert Mueller's inquiry has taken the first step towards possible criminal charges.

According to Reuters news agency, the jury has issued subpoenas over a June 2016 meeting between President Donald Trump's son and a Russian lawyer."

"Earlier on Thursday, the US Senate introduced two separate cross-party bills designed to limit the Trump administration's ability to fire Mr Mueller.

The measures were submitted amid concern the president might dismiss Mr Mueller, as he fired former FBI director James Comey in May, citing the Russia inquiry in his decision."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40820863

Expect soon Trump pardons son, Congress impeaches Trump, job done.
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Old 04.08.2017, 08:20
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The press should hold governments to account, but dissecting every tiny action is simply unnecessary. They're so desperate to get rid of Trump that journalists have had to resign for making up stories. And this isn't being done with American's interests at heart. For all his faults, Trump isn't Hitler or Mao or Mugabe. This is a witch hunt the like we have never seen before. Bill Clinton was banging half the White house and we never got a sniff until after Lewinsky. And the reason for this is because there's a huge number of people who still can't accept that he won the election.
WTF has "banging half the White House" got to do with Clinton's ability to be President?
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Old 04.08.2017, 08:30
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Interesting article on Tillerson and the State Department. Wonder how long he'll hang on.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40756948
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False equivalency. Banging vs appointing incompetents and getting nothing done.
Remind me again what Obama and Bush got done within the same amount of time of being in office?
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7706551.html

Of course depends on who you believe.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...th-comparison/

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...t-month-trump/

Difficult to compare since Obama inherited a different situation to the one facing Trump.

Mind you I think this is the best one:

https://www.theroot.com/the-complete...0-d-1794741843

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The USA was built by immigrants -most uneducated and not speaking English.
But at least they learned it!

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Now Trump only wants immigrants who can speak English and well educated. What discrimination!
How dare he want skilled migration for the US?!
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Remind me again what Obama and Bush got done within the same amount of time of being in office?
Far less golf.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7706551.html

Of course depends on who you believe.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...th-comparison/

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...t-month-trump/

Difficult to compare since Obama inherited a different situation to the one facing Trump.

Mind you I think this is the best one:

https://www.theroot.com/the-complete...0-d-1794741843
So far (July 14) Trump has named 206 nominees for Govt. jobs that need confirmation by the Senate, while at the same point Obama had named 355, George W. Bush had named 313, Clinton had named 267 and George H.W. Bush had named 243.

It is dangerous for politicians to point to Stock Exchange successes because when the Market crashes then they get the blame; market successes and crashes usually are not due to political actions, e.g. sub prime mortgages.

Incoming President Barack Obama's budget request for FY 2010 totalled $3.55 trillion and was passed by Congress on April 29, 2009.
As of August Trump's 2018 budget request has not yet been discussed by Congress; in fact Trump did not even bother to announce details of his budget request until May 23rd.
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False equivalency. Banging vs appointing incompetents and getting nothing done.
Is Trump really "getting nothing done" or is just that he is doing things that you don't agree with?
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Is Trump really "getting nothing done" or is just that he is doing things that you don't agree with?
Take a look at Medea's links. He really is getting (relatively speaking) nothing done. Something we should probably be grateful for.
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Take a look at Medea's links. He really is getting (relatively speaking) nothing done. Something we should probably be grateful for.
Corey Lewandowski, President Donald Trump's former campaign manager, is calling for voters to hold the President accountable for the pledges he made during the election.

"Elected officials need to be held accountable," Lewandowski said Thursday at an event at The City Club in Cleveland. "And the President is my friend but if he doesn't fulfill those promises, if he doesn't follow through on the things he told the American people he will do, the accountability is at the ballot box in three and a half years."

Lewandowski listed several of Trump's campaign promises that have yet to be realized.

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Even Trump's friends notice nothing is happening
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Take a look at Medea's links. He really is getting (relatively speaking) nothing done. Something we should probably be grateful for.
Are you including the one titled 'President Trump CRUSHES Obama in First Four Months Comparison' or only the ones that bash Trump?

Trump said that he would create jobs, he would cut illegal immigration and he would put Americans first - and he actually seems to be doing that.
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Are you including the one titled 'President Trump CRUSHES Obama in First Four Months Comparison' or only the ones that bash Trump?

Trump said that he would create jobs, he would cut illegal immigration and he would put Americans first - and he actually seems to be doing that.
You mean the one which has absolutely NOTHING to do with what Trump has actually DONE?
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You mean the one which has absolutely NOTHING to do with what Trump has actually DONE?
Trump: Business is looking better than ever with business enthusiasm at record levels. Stock Market at an all-time high. That doesn't just happen!

And I guess the fact that illegal immigration was down 67% after four months of Trump is clearly just an after-effect of the strong policies set by Obama

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