View Poll Results: Will Trump be a good President? |
Yes
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No
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05.08.2017, 10:39
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | ...If a law allows doing inacceptable things, the law needs changing. It's usually discovered when some smart-ass is using what we call here a "Gesetzeslücke" (legal loophole) to his/her advantage.
We need those smart-asses though, just like we need hackers in IT  | | | | | I agree, but in this case the law you're talking about is the Constitution of the United States. To change that requires an amendment, which is no small feat. Both houses of Congress and the majority of state legislatures are controlled by the Republican party. | Quote: | |  | | | So the situation is that raids have increased since Obama's time but deportations have declined....Maybe the problem is that the court resources involved in processing the many more newly arrested people deprives the courts of the resources needed to finalise cases?
He is the ICE Acting Director because this is one of the many senior roles where Trump has not yet made a nomination!
Incidentally ICE Acting Director Thomas Homan does not support the Trump rhetoric that illegal immigrants commit more crimes! | | | | | The entire U.S. legal system is backlogged as it is. If you then increase the number of people that are arrested/detained and have to be given due process, it's going to take longer to process them all.
I believe Trump is deliberately not making appointments. He thinks the government is too bloated as it is. By not appointing anyone, the underlings take over and things keep running (albeit a bit more slowly and less efficiently) and he can crow about saving money. Forget the amount of OT folks are probably racking up. Remember that chief strategist Bannon thinks the entire system needs to collapse. What better way to do that than to simply leave jobs unfilled? | Quote: | |  | | | Doesn't that only work when you ignore the fact that every single illegal immigrant committed a crime when they hopped the border though?  | | | | | You know as well as I do that Trump's rhetoric is not just about crossing the border. He thinks that every illegal immigrant commits multiple crimes after arriving in the U.S., such as drug running, raping, murdering, etc. | Quote: | |  | | | And also 17% increase in Mexican deaths at the border under Trump. Is he also celebrating that increase? | | | | | Of course he does, quietly. They're bad hombres after all.  So some of them died in a truck trying to cross over. Big deal. Trump probably figures it saves the court system some money.  Sad, but I really believe that's how he thinks. | Quote: | |  | | | Interesting 5 minute read from Tony Burman former head of Al Jazeera English and CBC News in today's Toronto Star (Canada). "We now know how the Trump presidency will end. Let's hope we survive: Burman- The outlines of the end are becoming more clear, as Robert Mueller’s investigators dig away. Expect things to be vicious." | | | | | I'm still not yet convinced Trump will resign or be impeached. I think that impeachment is tossed around so loosely thanks to Bill Clinton. He was impeached not for the affair, but because he lied under oath. The Republican-controlled House impeached him, partly because they could score political points without creating a constitutional crisis - they knew the Democratic-controlled Senate wouldn't remove him from office.
Trump lies almost every time he opens his mouth, but so far he's not been put under oath. It is clear the Russians tried to interfere in the election but it's not clear yet his campaign colluded with them. It does seem that the campaign wanted to collude, though. Trump, Jr.'s own e-mails show the campaign had no qualms about meeting with a foreign government if they could get some dirt on Hillary Clinton. It's a sad state of affairs when candidates for the highest office stoop to such lows. | The following 5 users would like to thank 3Wishes for this useful post: | | 
05.08.2017, 11:33
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | I'm still not yet convinced Trump will resign or be impeached. | | | | | As fervently as I wish Trump were not in office, I am nonetheless worried about the prospect of impeachment. As of today, I don't see an impeachment effort as the way to fix America's problems, rather - again, as things stand today - I see impeachment as the spark that could ignite horrific violence across the country, furthering the divide among Americans today, possibly to the point where that divide becomes unmendable.
I regularly speak with folks in Trump territory. He is a messianic figure to many, the more beleagered he is perceived to be the more his base rallies around him. What he does matters not with them because he speaks to their disenfranchisement as no one else does. His base will follow him, I fear to the point of no return. I honestly don't know whether the country could recover from that.
I remember Watergate. The mood of the country today is far more divided, far angrier, and far more dangerous.
And let's be practical. Removing Trump gives us Pence. Pence is actually more dangerous. Pence is not crazy, he is not childish and undisciplined as Trump is. He is the acceptable 'adult' face of a draconian and perhaps darwinian agenda - he would be able to change American in ways that Trump's disfunction cannot.
We are starting to see hints of willingness to cooperate in congress, or at least weariness with party above all else. Impeachment would negate that progress, would toss those in congress open to bipartisanship back into staunch party line. And the country would be back to square one.
The practical (read: cynical) part of me sees impeachment as not the best use of political capital, capital that IMO would be better spent actually getting things done to improve the lot of the disenfranchised, working towards winning back hearts and minds, and therefore seats, in 2018. Wining back a majority in 2018, or even winning enough votes to bring bipartisanship back, would neutralize much of Trump's craziness. A weakened Trump, without a mandate, is far less dangerous than Pence.
My views on the advisablility/practicality of impeachment might change as new revelations come to light. Above all, I want the clear winner to be the American people and our constitution. But for now... I'd like to see focus on 2018.
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05.08.2017, 15:42
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | $ 50.00?
(I suspect Trump has shares ... which finally explains why he tweets so actively)
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05.08.2017, 16:26
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | $ 50.00? 
(I suspect Trump has shares ... which finally explains why he tweets so actively) | | | | | This Trump toilet paper is no longer available although other Trump toilet rolls and a range of Obama rolls are available | 
05.08.2017, 16:44
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
Another Trump win!
Trump has spent 53 "leisure" days through August 2017 as compared to 15 for Obama through August 2009. Source | 
05.08.2017, 17:17
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | This Trump toilet paper is no longer available although other Trump toilet rolls and a range of Obama rolls are available  | | | | | Today at 15.41h it still was!
The EF'ers have bought the entire stock | This user would like to thank curley for this useful post: | | 
05.08.2017, 21:11
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
heavy stuff!
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06.08.2017, 01:03
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | One step closer to impeachment. Grand jury convened. 
"A special counsel investigating claims of Russian meddling in the US election has reportedly empanelled a grand jury.
The US media reports suggest Robert Mueller's inquiry has taken the first step towards possible criminal charges.
According to Reuters news agency, the jury has issued subpoenas over a June 2016 meeting between President Donald Trump's son and a Russian lawyer."
"Earlier on Thursday, the US Senate introduced two separate cross-party bills designed to limit the Trump administration's ability to fire Mr Mueller.
The measures were submitted amid concern the president might dismiss Mr Mueller, as he fired former FBI director James Comey in May, citing the Russia inquiry in his decision." http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40820863
Expect soon Trump pardons son, Congress impeaches Trump, job done. | | | | | This is a significant step. It means the investigators have evidence of criminality to present to a grand jury. Of course this is not a done deal; the jury can always decide the evidence is inadequate or insufficient to actually go to court.
There were some newspaper reports that the special counsel Mueller is going outside of the bounds of his investigation?
But Mueller is basically a policeman and it is naive to believe he will or can ignore any evidence of other criminality he comes across?
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06.08.2017, 10:12
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Another win for the Trumpster: Under Trump, gains against ISIS have ‘dramatically accelerated’ Source | 
06.08.2017, 10:48
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
New book by @ericbolling is absolutely terrific and a must read! #WakeUpAmerica
10:32 AM - 30 Jun 2016 | | | | | | Quote: |  | | | Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I will be interviewed by @ericbolling tonight at 8pm on the @oreillyfactor. Enjoy!
3:53 PM - 1 Sep 2016 | | | | | Fox News' Eric Bolling suspended over claim he sent lewd photos to colleagues
Network suspends star host ‘pending an investigation’, following allegations he sent unsolicited pictures of male genitalia to female colleagues Source
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06.08.2017, 13:43
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A major reason why it will be very difficult to bring jobs back to the rust belt
Friday Nissan workers reject joining the United Auto Workers Union in Mississippi.
Workers at a Nissan assembly plant in Mississippi have voted against forming a union, adding to decades of futility by United Auto Workers organizers at foreign-owned auto plants in the American South.
Representatives of Nissan Motor Co. and the UAW said late Friday that 2,244 workers, or 62 percent, voted against the UAW, while 1,307, or 38 percent, favored the union. Source | 
06.08.2017, 14:10
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What does being in a union or not have to do with bringing jobs back?
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06.08.2017, 14:55
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | What does being in a union or not have to do with bringing jobs back? | | | | | Because no auto maker will want to build a new factory anywhere near where the workers are under the control of a US auto union, this is why all the new auto factories are down South | This user would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
06.08.2017, 17:46
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Another Trump win!
Trump has spent 53 "leisure" days through August 2017 as compared to 15 for Obama through August 2009. Source | | | | | Trump didn't even take a salary as president!
He chose to make the country great again on his own dime | 
06.08.2017, 18:49
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Trump didn't even take a salary as president!
He chose to make the country great again on his own dime  | | | | | He's making enough renting out his commercial properties to the Secret Service so he doesn't have to stay at "the dump" that is the white house.
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06.08.2017, 19:09
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Trump didn't even take a salary as president!
He chose to make the country great again on his own dime  | | | | | Who do you think foots the bill for all his family members?  The pres salary is peanuts to the gravy train he's on. Just because you don't find his expenditures outrageous, doesn't mean that the rest of us think the same. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7849251.html | The following 2 users would like to thank FunnyBone for this useful post: | | 
06.08.2017, 20:06
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Another Trump win!
Trump has spent 53 "leisure" days through August 2017 as compared to 15 for Obama through August 2009.
| | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Trump didn't even take a salary as president!
He chose to make the country great again on his own dime  | | | | | Trump should do the job he was elected to do full time regardless of salary; however I am glad he does not and consequently has so many failures in his legislative agenda.
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06.08.2017, 20:11
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Trump didn't even take a salary as president!
He chose to make the country great again on his own dime  | | | | | The publicity costs for his hotels alone would be worth his salary and then their is the rest. I find it hard be believe that this is a serious post....
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06.08.2017, 22:21
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Who do you think foots the bill for all his family members? The pres salary is peanuts to the gravy train he's on. Just because you don't find his expenditures outrageous, doesn't mean that the rest of us think the same. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7849251.html | | | | | Once you get past the headline and read the article, all the way at the bottom in the last paragraph, it states that the Pentagon does not believe that Trump will personally profit from the agreement.
I'm not saying you don't have a point but this article you've posted seems like a nothing burger.
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