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...and your president refuses to condemn it, weaselling around the issue with 'violence on many sides, many sides' ...
Probably because a large number of those uneducated white guys are part of his base.
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Swastikas on the streets America, really? I mean ffs really? get a grip.


and your president refuses to condemn it, weaselling around the issue with 'violence on many sides, many sides' ok maybe there were people fighting on both sides, but only one side was carrying effing swastikas!


Any of the three stooges care to justify refusing to condemn nazi flag waving? US ww2 vets must be ashamed.


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Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) fired back at President Trump on Friday, saying Congress “obviously isn’t authorizing war in Venezuela” after Trump said he wouldn’t rule out using a military option in the country.

“No, Congress obviously isn’t authorizing war in Venezuela,” Sasse, a member of the Senate Armed Services committee, said in a statement. “Nicolas Maduro is a horrible human being, but Congress doesn’t vote to spill Nebraskans’ blood based on who the Executive lashes out at today.”

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Does that actually matter?

According to Wiki, the POTUS has had the military strike 125 times without prior congressional approvement and outside of UN declarations, including the bombings in Yugoslavia in 1999.

Besides, it doesn't take the military, the CIA may do the job just as well or even better.
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Old 14.08.2017, 16:08
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A dignified President would have thanked him for his service and wished him all the best... but not the petulent Trump.
Can we have another poll asking when this car crash will end?

Merck CEO drops out of Trump council in protest, Trump blasts him for high drug prices


Merck CEO Kenneth Frazier and U.S. President Donald Trump meet along with representatives from PhRMA, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America in the White House on January 31, 2017. (Photo by Ron Sachs/Getty Images)

Merck CEO and chair Kenneth C. Frazier resigned from President Donald Trump’s American Manufacturing Council following the President’s delayed condemnation of the neo-Nazi and white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

This weekend’s rally turned deadly when a Nazi sympathizer drove a car into a crowd, killing a woman. In the following police response, a police helicopter crashed, killing two officers.

“I am resigning from the President’s American Manufacturing Council,” Frazier wrote in a statement released by Merck. “Our country’s strength stems from its diversity and the contributions made by men and women of different faiths, races, sexual orientations and political beliefs.”

In response 54 minutes later, Trump tweeted: “Now that Ken Frazier of Merck Pharma has resigned from President’s Manufacturing Council, he will have more time to LOWER RIPOFF DRUG PRICES!”

Following the rally, Republicans and Democrats alike largely condemned the neo-Nazi rallies that included prominent figures such as white nationalist Richard Spencer and former “imperial wizard” of the Ku Klux Klan David Duke.

Trump, however, blamed “many sides,” a line that was condemned itself across the political spectrum for making an equivalency between neo-Nazis and anti-fascist counter-protesters. Some analysts explained this hesitation by noting that these far-right hate groups are part of Trump’s base.

“America’s leaders must honor our fundamental values by clearly rejecting expressions of hatred, bigotry, and group supremacy, which run counter to the American ideal that all people are created equal,” wrote Frazier. “As CEO of Merck and as a matter of personal conscience, I feel a responsibility to take a stand against intolerance and extremism.”

Frazier’s departure is one of the first responses by the business community to Trump’s latest misstep, but previous members of various White House councils have left after a Trump move. Following the withdrawal from the Paris Climate Agreement, Disney’s Bob Iger and Tesla’s Elon Musk resigned. Former Uber CEO Travis Kalanick resigned from the White House business advisory council after the administration implemented its controversial travel ban.

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A dignified President would have thanked him for his service and wished him all the best... but not the petulent Trump.
Can we have another poll asking when this car crash will end?
Good for Mr. Frazier, and those before him who have dumped the Trump.
There are no words for what happened in Charlottesville this weekend. I know Mike Pence tried to "Trump-translate" what the president meant - e.g. contain the damage and the backlash - but still, no word from the president.

Freedom of speech does not equal license to be an uneducated idiot. But somehow, they feel legitimized by this president. I would make all those waving Nazi flags in Charlottesville attend mandatory history classes, including from WW2 American Vets who fought a war on that. Pigs.
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Old 14.08.2017, 16:29
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Trump castigated Merck CEO Kenneth Frazier but not the neo Nazis

He really is a most unpleasant man
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Old 15.08.2017, 00:35
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Texas measures to restrict access for transgender people to bathrooms in schools and public buildings appear doomed after moderate Republican powerbrokers blocked the bills and hundreds of businesses opposed them.

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Good news
Some while back Trump tweeted he was banning transgender people from the military but so far has not tried to implement his decision!
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Freedom of speech does not equal license to be an uneducated idiot. But somehow, they feel legitimized by this president......
This!
It's been on my mind a long while now. The behaviour of Trump seems to have torn down all barriers for people.
Would Anthony Scaramucci have talked the way he did, chosen the words he has under any other president the US had so far?
People suddenly blurt out the most primitive notions, which they at least kept to themselves and (hopefully) felt a little ashamed about before. And more - sometimes I get the impression they're almost high on the excitement of finally letting loose.
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This!
It's been on my mind a long while now. The behaviour of Trump seems to have torn down all barriers for people.
Would Anthony Scaramucci have talked the way he did, chosen the words he has under any other president the US had so far?
People suddenly blurt out the most primitive notions, which they at least kept to themselves and (hopefully) felt a little ashamed about before. And more - sometimes I get the impression they're almost high on the excitement of finally letting loose.
If you have a problem with freedom of speech, you should try living somewhere that doesn't have any. ALL liberty begins with freedom of speech.
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If you have a problem with freedom of speech, you should try living somewhere that doesn't have any. ALL liberty begins with freedom of speech.
I don't believe that should extend to public officials, if you are being paid from the public purse you can leave any notions of white supremacy (Bannon), Islamaphobia (Gorka) or any other such hatred at the door.
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If you have a problem with freedom of speech, you should try living somewhere that doesn't have any. ALL liberty begins with freedom of speech.
I'm not surprised you believe <<Scaramucci: 'Not Trying to Suck My Own Cock...I'm Here To Serve the Country'>> is freedom of speech.
I have exercised my right to freedom of speech at all times in my life .... maybe I'm just lucky to have a bigger vocabulary?

But if we adjust to Scaramucci, I personally believe sucking his own cock was exactly what he did. Ten days solid.
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The CEOs of sportswear retailer Under Armour and computer company Intel have all resigned from Trump’s American Manufacturing Council following the example of pharmaceutical giant Merck.

The Intel CEO said "I resigned because I want to make progress, while many in Washington seem more concerned with attacking anyone who disagrees with them.”

By Monday afternoon the AFL-CIO (which has two members on the council) said it was "assessing" its role in the manufacturing group -- which it said "has yet to hold any real meeting."

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Trumps empire is crumbling and he is treated more and more like a bystander by Congress, even his own aides are saying his statements on N.Korea should be ignored.

North Korea leader Kim Jong Un has opted to wait to see what the "foolish Yankees" do next.

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So now the ball is in Trump's court; I assume he will simply drop the ball instead of doing anything.
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Have you seen Trump's twitter feed today marton? It's the most bizarre thing. He's even retweeted a British guy who is massively anti-Trump. Is he not checking his sources? Is he cracking up?
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Have you seen Trump's twitter feed today marton? It's the most bizarre thing. He's even retweeted a British guy who is massively anti-Trump. Is he not checking his sources? Is he cracking up?
Which British guy tweet?

Did you mean this one "RT @MikeHolden42: @foxandfriends @realDonaldTrump He's a fascist, so not unusual."
where Trump re-tweeted someone who called Trump a fascist?

If so it is now deleted!

Trump is approaching melt down
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Yeah, looks like he deleted it.

https://factba.se/topic/deleted-tweets

Perhaps someone literate advised him.
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Yeah, looks like he deleted it.

https://factba.se/topic/deleted-tweets

Perhaps someone literate advised him.
He also deleted this one "RT @SLandinSoCal: @foxandfriends @realDonaldTrump Nothing can stop the #TrumpTrain‼️ https://t.co/PprEMbiZQa" which has a picture of a train running over a person carrying a CNN banner.

Perhaps someone literate told him it was a "bit" insensitive after protesters were driven over in Charlottesville?
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Swastikas on the streets America, really? I mean ffs really? get a grip.

and your president refuses to condemn it, weaselling around the issue with 'violence on many sides, many sides' ok maybe there were people fighting on both sides, but only one side was carrying effing swastikas!

Any of the three stooges care to justify refusing to condemn nazi flag waving? US ww2 vets must be ashamed.
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Made additional remarks on Charlottesville and realize once again that the #Fake News Media will never be satisfied...truly bad people!
Let us all know when Obama finally gets around to condemning race hate by BLM.
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Let us all know when Obama finally gets around to condemning race hate by BLM.
I suppose the difference is one group is campaigning for an end to racism against themselves, whilst the other is campaigning for the subjugation and systematic eradication of all other ethnic groups.

Hope that helps.
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Let us all know when Obama finally gets around to condemning race hate by BLM.
He's not president any more.
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I suppose the difference is one group is campaigning for an end to racism against themselves, whilst the other is campaigning for the subjugation and systematic eradication of all other ethnic groups.
When Micah Johnson shot 5 cops dead because he wanted to kill white people I guess he was just campaigning to end racism against black people yeah?
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