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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Oh yeah, he's dumber than you can imagine:

‘This curry stained Indian should be beaten and hanged’

You keep quoting opinions from obscure web sites like they are somehow more credible/valuable than your own opinions?
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Old 20.08.2017, 19:36
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You keep quoting opinions from obscure web sites like they are somehow more credible/valuable than your own opinions?
An interview with the guy who you called dumb is an opinion? I posted the link so that you could decide for yourself, with a little more info, if the guy is just a 'dumb politician' who should 'expect to be turned into bacon' or not. Yes, I think that his own words are a more valuable source of information for knowing what the guy is all about than are my own opinions.


What obscure websites are you talking about, anyway? Wikipedia? The Guardian? Telegraph? Admittedly the itsgoingdown.org site is a little bit obscure - but maybe those ef'rs who think that we should be 'antifas by default' (as posted in a different thread a few days back) might want to know who they are aligning themselves with/supporting. Joining Antifa to crush fascism is a joke..they're well along the path to fascism themselves, comrade...

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'The fascists of the future will be the anti-fascists'
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Making up quotes doesn't advance your cause. Lots of references, this is one of them.
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Old 20.08.2017, 20:24
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Making up quotes doesn't advance your cause. Lots of references, this is one of them.
in any case, there is a basic wisdom in those words. much to the same effect as the paradoxical idea of "intolerance to intolerance"

what if you turn into, or have to be, a fascist in order to fight fascism? and that is already given the questionable fact that you are actually fighting real fascism in the first place.

is nietzsches abyss quote real enough for you?
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Admittedly the itsgoingdown.org site is a little bit obscure - but maybe those ef'rs who think that we should be 'antifas by default' (as posted in a different thread a few days back) might want to know who they are aligning themselves with/supporting. Joining Antifa to crush fascism is a joke..they're well along the path to fascism themselves, comrade...
Liberals get the bullet too
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Old 20.08.2017, 20:57
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bannon going to war for trump.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...war-for-trump/

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i love how you guys always mix breaking stories with your own fantasies, quickly going from rumors to absolute truths within your bubble. quite pathetic really, it is the reason the world is in the state that it is.
"bannon going to war for trump."

From Breitbart today
  • TRUMP MENTALLY ILL!
  • Nat’l Security Adviser Endorsed Book That Advocates Quran-Kissing Apology Ceremonies
  • Alabama Senate Poll: Roy Moore, with Majority Support, Takes Commanding Lead over Luther Strange
  • Ivanka Trump Helped Push Steve Bannon out of the White House
  • NAACP’s Barber: ‘Rolling Back Health Care and Living Wages’ Is What White Nationalists Want
  • Apple CEO Pledges $2 Million to SPLC and ADL, Attacks Trump over Charlottesville
  • Powerful GOP Donor Sheldon Adelson Supports Campaign to Oust McMaster

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Old 20.08.2017, 21:10
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis travels to the Middle East and eastern Europe next week to play the increasingly familiar role of reassuring allies that the United States is committed to them despite mixed messages from President Donald Trump.

The informal portfolio of soothing traditional U.S. friends upset by Trump's often sharp comments and tweets on foreign policy is one that the retired Marine general is becoming used to.

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Old 20.08.2017, 21:18
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in any case, there is a basic wisdom in those words. much to the same effect as the paradoxical idea of "intolerance to intolerance"

what if you turn into, or have to be, a fascist in order to fight fascism? and that is already given the questionable fact that you are actually fighting real fascism in the first place.

is nietzsches abyss quote real enough for you?
You are talking about "draining the swamp"?
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An interview with the guy who you called dumb is an opinion? I posted the link so that you could decide for yourself, with a little more info, if the guy is just a 'dumb politician' who should 'expect to be turned into bacon' or not. Yes, I think that his own words are a more valuable source of information for knowing what the guy is all about than are my own opinions.


What obscure websites are you talking about, anyway? Wikipedia? The Guardian? Telegraph? Admittedly the itsgoingdown.org site is a little bit obscure - but maybe those ef'rs who think that we should be 'antifas by default' (as posted in a different thread a few days back) might want to know who they are aligning themselves with/supporting. Joining Antifa to crush fascism is a joke..they're well along the path to fascism themselves, comrade...

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What Marton is actually saying is that you are not entitled to a different opinion than that of those few esteemed Efers...or else you will be called out as alt right, brainwashed etc etc
The irony...
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Old 20.08.2017, 23:18
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An interview with the guy who you called dumb is an opinion? I posted the link so that you could decide for yourself, with a little more info, if the guy is just a 'dumb politician' who should 'expect to be turned into bacon' or not. Yes, I think that his own words are a more valuable source of information for knowing what the guy is all about than are my own opinions.


What obscure websites are you talking about, anyway? Wikipedia? The Guardian? Telegraph? Admittedly the itsgoingdown.org site is a little bit obscure - but maybe those ef'rs who think that we should be 'antifas by default' (as posted in a different thread a few days back) might want to know who they are aligning themselves with/supporting. Joining Antifa to crush fascism is a joke..they're well along the path to fascism themselves, comrade...

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I actually wrote "Any politician dumb enough to share a speaker platform promoting Nazi and white supremacist speakers....."

Where in this interview does it support the view that "to share a speaker platform promoting Nazi ...." is not a politically dumb thing to do?
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Making up quotes doesn't advance your cause. Lots of references, this is one of them.
Well I'll be!

I didn't make it up obviously, but thanks for pointing out that it's misattributed, he never said it, etc. I don't think very highly of that man anyway, especially considering he allowed the Lusitania to be sunk by a German U-boat in a sick attempt to get the US into the war:

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/ir...the-luisitania


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Well I'll be!

I didn't make it up obviously, but thanks for pointing out that it's misattributed, he never said it, etc. I don't think very highly of that man anyway, especially considering he allowed the Lusitania to be sunk by a German U-boat in a sick attempt to get the US into the war:

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/ir...the-luisitania


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"bannon going to war for trump."

From Breitbart today
  • TRUMP MENTALLY ILL!
  • Nat’l Security Adviser Endorsed Book That Advocates Quran-Kissing Apology Ceremonies
  • Alabama Senate Poll: Roy Moore, with Majority Support, Takes Commanding Lead over Luther Strange
  • Ivanka Trump Helped Push Steve Bannon out of the White House
  • NAACP’s Barber: ‘Rolling Back Health Care and Living Wages’ Is What White Nationalists Want
  • Apple CEO Pledges $2 Million to SPLC and ADL, Attacks Trump over Charlottesville
  • Powerful GOP Donor Sheldon Adelson Supports Campaign to Oust McMaster

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trump mentally ill (according to cnn).
ivanka pushed bannon out (according to dailymail)
2 headlines on mcmaster, who isnt liked by trumpers
how are the naacp and apple headlines an attack on trump?

what website from your bubble did you copypaste this shit from without even reading it?
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I don't think very highly of that man anyway, especially considering he allowed the Lusitania to be sunk by a German U-boat in a sick attempt to get the US into the war:

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/ir...the-luisitania
I don't think much of him, either, since he was the one to send 58,000 Allied troops to their deaths at Gallipoli in WWI.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Labor groups step up pressure on Trump to deliver

Unions are starting a two-week Rust Belt campaign to push the administration on jobs.
Labor leaders, once courted by President Trump, are stepping up their campaign to turn workers against the White House if it does not deliver more on jobs and trade — and if it does not stop undoing Obama-era regulations.
The Trump administration has undone or walked away from a number of regulations that labour lobbied for, and won, under Obama,

“Trump ran as a working-class hero, so let’s look at the results,” said Joseph Geevarghese, Good Jobs Nation’s executive director. “We’re seven months into his administration, and wages are flat. People are still getting pink slips.”

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Trump's campaign appealed to the white unskilled worker sector and he needs to show some action here to keep his base intact.
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trump mentally ill (according to cnn).
ivanka pushed bannon out (according to dailymail)
2 headlines on mcmaster, who isnt liked by trumpers
how are the naacp and apple headlines an attack on trump?

what website from your bubble did you copypaste this shit from without even reading it?
You believe that copying anti-Trump articles from other media and republishing these anti-Trump articles without challenging the content is somehow supporting Trump

As I wrote in my OP the list was copied from the Breitbart website
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Trump's campaign appealed to the white unskilled worker sector working class people and he needs to show some action here to keep his base intact.
He's got to build The Wall™ to keep his base intact.
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An interview with the guy who you called dumb is an opinion? I posted the link so that you could decide for yourself, with a little more info, if the guy is just a 'dumb politician' who should 'expect to be turned into bacon' or not. Yes, I think that his own words are a more valuable source of information for knowing what the guy is all about than are my own opinions.
According to Wiki the first time something considered to be an email was sent in 1971. Ayyadurai OTOH began building his EMAIL system in 1978 according to this TIME article/interview (once I recognised that difference I stopped reading both articles).

Given the time difference it's kinda hard to see how there can be a dispute, provided everybody is talking about the same thing.

So first Ayyadurai should provide his definition of "email". If he claims only something sent according to his copyrighted EMAIL (standard?) can be called email then his claim, of course, is a truism. But that wouldn't mean the same as everybody else understands "email" to mean. Actually, that would sound more like Al Gore's alleged claim to have invented the internet (which by the way is a false allegation).

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You believe that copying anti-Trump articles from other media and republishing these anti-Trump articles without challenging the content is somehow supporting Trump

As I wrote in my OP the list was copied from the Breitbart website
what? my god the difference in wavelength between you and me really is incomprehensible.
  • i say: bannon goes to war for trump.
  • you say: nuh-uh he goes to war against trump #meltdown
  • you provide "proof" by supplying headlines from breitbart
  • i debunk your list as misleading because the actual headlines and corresponding articles are different, from what you insinuate.
  • i say you probably copypasted the list from some tweet or shit article in your bubble because you clearly did not bother to look them up on breitbart
  • you post nonsense above, clearly misunderstanding
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  • i say: bannon goes to war for trump.
  • you [marton] say: nuh-uh he goes to war against trump #meltdown
  • you provide "proof" by supplying headlines from breitbart
Sorry marton, in this case I have to agree with mwnn - it didn't add up to me either. Bannon has said that the presidency he was trying to create with Trump is over, not that the presidency as a whole is over.

Bannon has gained a lot of knowledge about the inner workings of Washington over the last several months. I fully expect now that he's back at Breitbart he will feel empowered to keep posting pieces skewering his (and Trump's) favorite adversaries.
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