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Old 21.08.2017, 15:14
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I think Marton just got tired of #winning against the alt-righters in here.

It was too much to wish for that Battletoad-in-Chief Bannon would defect quite that easily.
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According to Wiki the first time something considered to be an email was sent in 1971. Ayyadurai OTOH began building his EMAIL system in 1978 according to this TIME article/interview (once I recognised that difference I stopped reading both articles).

Given the time difference it's kinda hard to see how there can be a dispute, provided everybody is talking about the same thing.

So first Ayyadurai should provide his definition of "email". If he claims only something sent according to his copyrighted EMAIL (standard?) can be called email then his claim, of course, is a truism. But that wouldn't mean the same as everybody else understands "email" to mean. Actually, that would sound more like Al Gore's alleged claim to have invented the internet (which by the way is a false allegation).
Agreed, though in the end it's just splitting hairs. The guy designed the system (whether it was the 1st or not) at age 14 on his own using readily sourced components. Then went on to get 4 degrees from MIT, etc. Point being that he's no dummy, IMO. Whether or not sharing the podium with far-right speakers is a good idea politically, who knows. If they'd have allowed him to speak, and wanted to listen and judge him on his words and ideas rather than cast him as a neo-Nazi white supremacist (the irony!), many of the free speech rally protesters may have become supporters. Or not - but at least there'd have been some communication and exchange of ideas instead of violent polarization.
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Old 21.08.2017, 15:30
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Sorry marton, in this case I have to agree with mwnn - it didn't add up to me either. Bannon has said that the presidency he was trying to create with Trump is over, not that the presidency as a whole is over.

Bannon has gained a lot of knowledge about the inner workings of Washington over the last several months. I fully expect now that he's back at Breitbart he will feel empowered to keep posting pieces skewering his (and Trump's) favorite adversaries.
Sorry, I did not know that McMaster and Ivanka Trump are Trump's favorite adversaries
Bannon of course has a different POV.

I also quoted a Breitbart article from yesterday "North Carolina NAACP President Dr. Rev. William Barber said Saturday on MSNBC’s “AM Joy” that “rolling back health care” was what white nationalists want."
Which implies Trump is a white....

What I had expected in Breitbart as Trump support is exemplified in today's Breitbart article
"White House: Daily Mail Story About Ivanka Trump and Steve Bannon ‘Totally False’"
whereas yesterday they simply reprinted the Daily Mail anti-Ivanka story without any comment.

See the difference?
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Old 21.08.2017, 15:58
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

you have no clue how this works, but i am more than glad to leave you to your delusions.

makes it again a bit clearer to me why hillary had a "99% chance of winning"
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Which implies Trump is a white....
No marton. "A therefor B" doesn't mean "B therefor A" is also true.
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Agreed, though in the end it's just pulling hairs. The guy designed the system (whether it was the 1st or not) at age 14 on his own using readily sourced components. Then went on to get 4 degrees from MIT, etc. Point being that he's no dummy, IMO.
Sounds like a smart cookie indeed.
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Whether or not sharing the podium with far-right speakers is a good idea politically, who knows. If they'd have allowed him to speak, and wanted to listen and judge him on his words and ideas rather than cast him as a neo-Nazi white supremacist (the irony!), many of the free speech rally protesters may have become supporters. Or not - but at least there'd have been some communication and exchange of ideas instead of violent polarization.
"At least I tried" you mean? Fair point. But the problem with that is, you/he provide legitimacy to the other side. The more important or influentual you are the bigger the other's gain. Just imagine if the POTUS, ex or current, had spoken there. That makes the whole issue most ambiguous. Perhaps there's no right or wrong answer here.

What bothers me WRT Charlottesville is that one vid by infowars I saw (the one where some rights walk down a short stair, 5-10 steps) claims the neonazis have been forced into the anti-rally crowd when the event was shut down. Like, "walk back the way you came" because the fences allowed nothing else, just that they were surrounded by the anti-rally folk who were ready and willing to use violence. I don't trust infowars one bit but if that's a fair presentation of the situation that would need addressing. Interestingly enough statements criticising CPD were raised very early on. However that won't be investigated (and the public informed) because it's overshadowed by the murder.
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Old 21.08.2017, 16:46
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What bothers me WRT Charlottesville is that one vid by infowars I saw (the one where some rights walk down a short stair, 5-10 steps) claims the neonazis have been forced into the anti-rally crowd when the event was shut down. Like, "walk back the way you came" because the fences allowed nothing else, just that they were surrounded by the anti-rally folk who were ready and willing to use violence. I don't trust infowars one bit but if that's a fair presentation of the situation that would need addressing. Interestingly enough statements criticising CPD were raised very early on. However that won't be investigated (and the public informed) because it's overshadowed by the murder.
I thought Infowars claimed it was all a set up by Jewish conspirationists?
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Sounds like a smart cookie indeed.
He's not that smart:
a) He opposes GMOs
b) He's married to Fran Drescher (or was at least)
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The Secret Service cannot pay hundreds of agents to protect President Donald Trump and his large family, according to a report published Monday morning.

Problem is Trump's travel to his private club in Florida has cost more than an estimated $20 million in his first 80 days in office, putting the President on pace to surpass former President Barack Obama's eight years of spending on travel -- in only his first year in office.
Every trip requires multiple secret service agents who have to clock up a lot of overtime

Meanwhile on the theme of "do as I say" not "do as I do".

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Old 21.08.2017, 17:28
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According to Wiki the first time something considered to be an email was sent in 1971. Ayyadurai OTOH began building his EMAIL system in 1978 according to this TIME article/interview (once I recognised that difference I stopped reading both articles).

Given the time difference it's kinda hard to see how there can be a dispute, provided everybody is talking about the same thing.

So first Ayyadurai should provide his definition of "email". If he claims only something sent according to his copyrighted EMAIL (standard?) can be called email then his claim, of course, is a truism. But that wouldn't mean the same as everybody else understands "email" to mean. Actually, that would sound more like Al Gore's alleged claim to have invented the internet (which by the way is a false allegation).
Good point about "what is his definition of "email"".

Back in 1969 I worked for the US GE and they had a worldwide company email service based on a central server (mainframe).
It was also open to people outside the company so long as they had an id and a terminal with a dial up 200bps modem so they could dial in to the system.

Certainly you could send emails to any other user, add copies (cc) and back copies (bcc), & save the emails to disk. It was a long time ago so I do not remember all the functionality available anymore!

I remember we had a visit in London by a senior GE guy; there was a lot of excitement by senior UK management and much preparation.
When the guy arrived he asked for an office and a terminal and spent the entire visit hunched over his email. Eventually I was able to drag him away for 5 minutes to talk to the troops but it was clear he was only interested in getting back to his email!
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I thought Infowars claimed it was all a set up by Jewish conspirationists?
Prove them wrong.

Who's Fran Drescher btw.
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Who's Fran Drescher btw.
She's the lady in red when everybody else is wearing tan.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Monday undercut one of President Donald Trump's most-repeated claims, telling a group at the Louisville Chamber of Commerce that "most news is not fake."

McConnell also said he reads a variety of sources that Trump has blasted, including the New York Times.

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Seems to be building up to a major fight between McConnell and Trump; whoever wins the GOP will lose
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Prove them wrong.

Who's Fran Drescher btw.
They made the claim, the burden of proof is on them

Extremely annoying New York actress.
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Old 22.08.2017, 10:04
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Well Trump's well advertised and trumpeted speech on his new Afghan strategy turned out to be a damp squib with little change or innovation.

To avoid claims of Fake News I quote from Breitbart;

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President Trump unveiled his plan for Afghanistan after seven months of deliberation Monday evening, announcing tweaks around the edges of the current strategy instead of a different approach.
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President Donald Trump has now officially embraced and expanded the 16-year-old war in Afghanistan which Candidate Trump denounced as a waste of American blood and treasure. In his first major foreign policy speech in prime time, Mr. Trump unveiled what he called a new strategy for Afghanistan and South Asia, which he called “principled realism.” But many of its key components remain infuriatingly vague.
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A total reversal from his excellent first Congress speech where he described a "stay at home" America; now he keeps talking about Afghanistan, N. Korea and Venezuela.

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President Trump’s “America First” base was the biggest loser of Trump’s speech on Afghanistan Monday night, and many quickly expressed their disappointment at the business-as-usual address from the president who had once promised to limit American intervention abroad and focus on nation-building at home.
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Will those optimistic EFers who told me Bannon will now use Breitbart to support Trump please explain how these Breitbart articles I quoted do support Trump?
There are more such anti-Trump articles on the Breitbart site today if you care to look.

From the media;
  • Bannon’s Breitbart tears into Trump after Afghanistan speech - Politico
  • Breitbart slams Trump for Afghanistan plan - cnn
  • Bannon’s Breitbart spins Trump Afghanistan speech as ‘flip-flop’ - Washington Post
  • Breitbart slams Trump for Afghanistan plan - MSN
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They made the claim, the burden of proof is on them
Well they made their case. It's up to you to show their evidence is falsified or whatever.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The sheer arrogance and crushing stupidity of someone whose narcissism leads them to believe that retinal scorching during an eclipse doesn't apply to them.



Not just Trump either. Those look like normal sunglasses that Melania is wearing and Bannon is pretty obviously waiting for the afterimages to clear.
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The sheer arrogance and crushing stupidity of someone whose narcissism leads them to believe that retinal scorching during an eclipse doesn't apply to them.



Not just Trump either. Those look like normal sunglasses that Melania is wearing and Bannon is pretty obviously waiting for the afterimages to clear.
Honestly, if you're using this picture to discredit his ability and character--it's really pathetic. There are so many more applicable criticisms on his ability and character. Almost every person in the world has looked at the sun directly for a few seconds--in this instant it's less that a second, a quick glance.


A big reason that the liberals are losing credibility, is that they are using input like this, taken out of context to frame an entire political stance.


Just as a joke--yes it's funny!
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Not just Trump either. Those look like normal sunglasses that Melania is wearing and Bannon is pretty obviously waiting for the afterimages to clear.
Those are pretty frigging wild assumptions right there. You have no way of knowing that those are "normal" sunglasses, and Barron is "pretty obviously" just glancing down. Where do you get the inside information on the status of his retina?
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We can only hope he takes a bath whilst making toast, as he believes electrocution is pointless, he likes his accent.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Interesting case in a Washington Court about the 8,600 winners of this year’s US visa lottery who were from the six travel ban countries.
Will they get their visas? Do special conditions apply (like close relatives) or not. Are the applications actually being processed?
Should the timescale be lengthened to wait for the Supreme Court decision on the "Muslim Ban".
Currently only four visa winners have taken this case to this court.

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