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Old 24.08.2017, 15:13
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If you decide to police somebody's language - you risk coming across as Think Police. I know you are aware of that. It would be helpful, though, to the discussion, to offer a term that does not offend your sensibilities, instead of giving a list of things that others cannot say.
If you decide to police my thoughts (I think pilatus comes across as racist) then blah blah.

We are both entitled to our positions and I'm definitely entitled to think he (or she) is probably a bit racist.

No policing anywhere I can see.
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Yes, and I would say using the term "minority ghetto" is a bit racist. Glad we've cleared that up.
I guess you didn't go back to reread it.

If I had just said 'ghetto', the example (concerning racism) would not even have made sense.

Clear now? Or do you want to continue trying to squeeze blood out of a stone?
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Old 24.08.2017, 15:15
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If you decide to police my thoughts (I think pilatus comes across as racist) then blah blah.

We are both entitled to our positions and I'm definitely entitled to think he (or she) is probably a bit racist.
And I think you're probably a bit racist, too...

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Old 24.08.2017, 15:17
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And I think you're probably a bit racist, too...
You are entirely entitled to feel that, although without any evidence it does sound a little like sour grapes.

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If I had just said 'ghetto', the example (concerning racism) would not even have made sense...
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A 'bit' racist is just that. Obviously there is a grey area between feeling uncomfortable while walking in a minority ghetto and going out and lynching minorities, for example.
Makes total sense without the word minority, adding minority just lends credence to your acceptance of minor racism, I think you can stop clutching at straws and just admit you accidentally wrote something with racist undertones and we can kiss and make up. The less said about your acceptance of minor racism because it isn't as bad as lynching, the better though.
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Old 24.08.2017, 15:19
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Ok, snowflakes, glad the hugs happened.

And that we know how easy it is to use silly labels instead of descriptors that are actually saying something.

How about we offer trigger warnings? Safe space definitions?

ie - watch out, I am about to use the word "ghetto".

Is "slum" acceptable?
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Old 24.08.2017, 15:20
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No disagreement on the general principle of feeling edgy walking through run down areas.
Was discussing this the other night with my OH, because his experience and perception is a World away from mine.

I've only been really scared of my surroundings twice. Once when I got the last train home from work and, thanks to a rail failure, ended up in tiny village 8 miles from home with no phone signal, and after midnight. The walk home was along a road with open fields on either side and I felt incredibly vulnerable. The other time was in Naples in '91 when the phone booth shootings were happening. The tension in the air was palpable because everyone was on edge. I've never felt scared in any 'deprived areas', more aware, but not actually scared.
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Old 24.08.2017, 15:22
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You are entirely entitled to feel that, although without any evidence it does sound a little like sour grapes.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-of-prejudice/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...motives-racism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejud...ry_perspective



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Makes total sense without the word ghetto, I think you can stop clutching at straws and just admit you accidentally wrote something with racist undertones and we can kiss and make up.
Still squeezing?
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Old 24.08.2017, 15:25
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I am blond. What if I was scared more? Does that make me more racist? Or smarter.
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Old 24.08.2017, 15:25
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

You seem to be. Searching for excuses for racism to be ok? You go right ahead.
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Old 24.08.2017, 15:26
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I am blond. What if I was scared more? Does that make me more racist? Or smarter.
Depends what you're scared of, innit.
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Old 24.08.2017, 15:28
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Ok, snowflakes, glad the hugs happened.

And that we know how easy it is to use silly labels instead of descriptors that are actually saying something.

How about we offer trigger warnings? Safe space definitions?

ie - watch out, I am about to use the word "ghetto".

Is "slum" acceptable?
Ghetto was never the problem word, do keep up MC
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Old 24.08.2017, 15:30
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The less said about your acceptance of minor racism because it isn't as bad as lynching, the better though.
I disagree completely - you attempt to sweep the dirt under the carpet and pretend it's not there.

I see racism and prejudice as common, natural phenomenons that occurs across all populations. They bias us and make us act differently than we would to people who are less similar to ourselves than others. If we don't recognize that they exist, even in ourselves, how could we ever hope to understand them and mitigate their effects on our actions and behaviors?
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Old 24.08.2017, 15:43
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Ghetto was never the problem word, do keep up MC
I do. Though I am working.


I noticed you pretend to be a snowflake for noble reasons. Robin-Hoody.
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Old 24.08.2017, 15:43
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I am blond. What if I was scared more? Does that make me more racist? Or smarter.
Depends if natural blonde or bottle?
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Depends what you're scared of, innit.
Identity politics. Since it makes people daft and kills constructive debate.
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Depends if natural blonde or bottle?
No bottle. And this is all coming from a minority, too, so respek, guys!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I'll bet this gets deleted in the next ten minutes by some aide who actually managed to pass primary school and really does have the best words.

What an acute embarrassment to all Americans that man Trump is.
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It is entertaining. He knows how to do it. He launches stuff people will gobble him more for. (The people he writes for)
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Gees!
I was wary because some Chinese tourists were arrested for doing that salute outside the Reichstag a few weeks ago, so I wasn't sure if it could be shown on a magazine cover. Apparently it can!
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IIRC Nazi symbols are illegal in Germany except when used for art, education and a few other cases. I guess this is one of those art cases.
No guarantee yet that Stern will not face some sort of prosecution.
Of course, Trump could always make a formal complaint?
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I'll bet this gets deleted in the next ten minutes by some aide who actually managed to pass primary school and really does have the best words.


What an acute embarrassment to all Americans that man Trump is.
Wonder when he will complete that tweet?

Meanwhile he is busily attacking the only people who can help him

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I requested that Mitch M & Paul R tie the Debt Ceiling legislation into the popular V.A. Bill (which just passed) for easy approval. They...
...didn't do it so now we have a big deal with Dems holding them up (as usual) on Debt Ceiling approval. Could have been so easy-now a mess!
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