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Old 24.08.2017, 18:55
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I think it's deliberate. I only noticed one vocabulary slip in the debates, he said "It's not just braggadocio", a "10 cent word" he generally avoids that kind of vocabulary.
If I remember correctly (quite possibly I'm not) - he actually wanted to say braggadocio, but ended up saying "braggadocious", a far cooler, more beach boy surfer sounding version
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Old 24.08.2017, 19:01
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

As a follow-up to the Stern cover.....It seems like Trump spurs creativity. I like this one.
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He's quite a troll.



...but what would we do without Trump.

Start taking a closer look to Merkel and Macron? Or Putin?


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...but what would we do without Trump.

Start taking a closer look to Merkel and Macron? Or Putin?
Just because you're looking at the moon, it doesn't mean you can't see the stars.
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Old 24.08.2017, 23:32
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Benjamin Franklin, to realise what an appropriate symbol the eagle is for president Trump. “I wish that the bald eagle had not been chosen as the representative of our country,” Franklin wrote to his daughter in 1784. “He is a bird of bad moral character, he does not get his living honestly.” The eagle, he continues, is “too lazy to fish for himself,” Ben Franklin was indeed a wise man.
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Old 24.08.2017, 23:39
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Just because you're looking at the moon, it doesn't mean you can't see the stars.
I still have to see the same criticism towards EU leaders and especially towards our great comrade Putin.... (we'd have to actually speak Russian in order to dig into some real stuff, unless of course - we take word for word what Russia Today tells us)
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I still have to see the same criticism towards EU leaders and especially towards our great comrade Putin.... (we'd have to actually speak Russian in order to dig into some real stuff, unless of course - we take word for word what Russia Today tells us)
So you haven't seen any of the threads calling Theresa May and Corbyn? Or the thread about Merkel?
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Old 25.08.2017, 00:10
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I wonder if those four people who's names we see regurgitating here over and over and over are really worth all that attention: Trump, Merkel, May, Putin. The others are lucky and slowly getting forgotten - Macron (unless his squaw gets a new haircut or something), etc.

We need new threads.
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Old 25.08.2017, 00:20
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Really. Look, it's one thing to call women chicks, and your antagonism towards feminism is clear. But to call Mme Macron a squaw? Do you have any idea how offensive that is? What the f*** are you about?

We do need new threads. I need to stop reading this one.
Educate me, please, before your outrage blinds your reasoning completely. You are talking to a European who grew up on Karl May. We throw than term of endearment respectfully all over, lol. Seriously, why expect all members to be versed in everything, instead of pointing stuff out?

My antagonism is not towards feminism, but hysterics.

I hope the new threads will have same amount of entertainment, sans the hysterics.

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Old 25.08.2017, 00:21
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Really. Look, it's one thing to call women chicks, and your antagonism towards feminism is clear. But to call Mme Macron a squaw? Do you have any idea how offensive that is? What the f*** are you about?
The thread just became great again
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Old 25.08.2017, 00:24
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I'm not hysteric. You are rude. Read up on native Americans and f*** off. Good night. Lol.
I did, are you saying Karl May was the wrong education? 30 books read in vain?

And why so rude? Should I stay home for emotional scaring?

Thanks, kriss...lol. I love unintentional bad comedy.

Mr. President Trumps gets called names and nobody stays home for emotional damage.
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Old 25.08.2017, 00:31
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Ah, Oprah Winfrey again:

"The controversy increased when Oprah Winfrey invited the Native American activist Suzan Harjo onto her show in 1992. Harjo said on the show that "squaw is an Algonquin Indian word meaning vagina." As a result of these claims, some Native people have taken to spelling the word sq***, or calling it the "s-word" (Bright n.d.). This purported etymology has been widely adopted as the rationale for removing the word from maps, road signs, history books, and other public uses (Adams 2000).
However, according to Ives Goddard, the curator and senior linguist in the anthropology department of the Smithsonian Institution, this statement is not true (Bright n. d.; Goddard 1997). The word was borrowed as early as 1621 from the Massachusett word squa (Cutler 1994; Goddard 1996, 1997), one of many variants of the Proto-Algonquian *eθkwe·wa[10] (Goddard 1997); in those languages it meant simply "young woman." Although Algonquian linguists and historians (e.g. Goddard 1997, Bruchac 1999) have rejected Harjo's proposed etymology, it has been repeated (without citing etymologies) by several journalists and the entertainer Oprah Winfrey."

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Old 25.08.2017, 00:38
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Ah, Oprah Winfrey again:

"The controversy increased when Oprah Winfrey invited the Native American activist Suzan Harjo onto her show in 1992. Harjo said on the show that "squaw is an Algonquin Indian word meaning vagina." As a result of these claims, some Native people have taken to spelling the word sq***, or calling it the "s-word" (Bright n.d.). This purported etymology has been widely adopted as the rationale for removing the word from maps, road signs, history books, and other public uses (Adams 2000).
However, according to Ives Goddard, the curator and senior linguist in the anthropology department of the Smithsonian Institution, this statement is not true (Bright n. d.; Goddard 1997). The word was borrowed as early as 1621 from the Massachusett word squa (Cutler 1994; Goddard 1996, 1997), one of many variants of the Proto-Algonquian *eθkwe·wa[10] (Goddard 1997); in those languages it meant simply "young woman." Although Algonquian linguists and historians (e.g. Goddard 1997, Bruchac 1999) have rejected Harjo's proposed etymology, it has been repeated (without citing etymologies) by several journalists and the entertainer Oprah Winfrey."

lol, the s-word.
Thanks, Pilatus. So Karl May had it right, and I have not wasted reading 30 books and some awesome dreams. Glad to know.

Mme Macron - back to square one, it really means what I and millions of fellow countrymen have thought, a young woman (aka chick - so a compliment, really). I do prefer linguists to Oprah, to be honest.

I am glad we ran into this. Never thought group think takes it so far, in language policing. Oprah seems to make a footprint in dictionaries.
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Yes, that's true. i read the same thing. I've never paid much attention to Oprah, so I had no idea before this.


I also read several resources that stated that the term squaw was used to disparage Aboriginal women. And truth be told, that's what I was thinking, much the same way that Negress and Jewess have been used. But i guess that's akin to hysteria.

Given that "PC" language is not chic here and it's considered more fun to be snide and insulting, then have at it, please.

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What - the only insulting person was you. As if a kneejerk insults were ok since they come from misunderstanding? Sounds weird from a PC advocate.

I accept your apology

I in fact think Macron's wife deserves more attention than him, but that's irrelevant.
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So Karl May had it right, and I have not wasted reading 30 books and some awesome dreams. Glad to know.
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Karl May is a name known to just about any living adult German. His books have outsold all other German authors; yet he is virtually unknown in the English-speaking world.
http://www.karlmayusa.com/

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Until relatively recently, the word squaw was used neutrally in anthropological and other contexts to mean a North American Indian woman or wife. With changes in the political climate in the second half of the 20th century, however, the derogatory attitudes of the past toward American Indian women mean that the word cannot now be used in any sense without being regarded as offensive
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I think you knew the term was offensive when you used it. Feigning cultural ignorance. But ok.

No apology necessary.
Nyah, wishful thinking

People really use it back home, it is a direct reference to books we all read.

It is good to know.
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Nyah, wishful thinking

People really use it back home, it is a direct reference to books we all read.

It is good to know.
Wishful thinking? That's very sad. So, everyone learns something. Perhaps.
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I think you knew the term was offensive when you used it. Feigning cultural ignorance. But ok.

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I honestly didn't know that there was any controversy around it myself. I haven't seen or heard it in decades, (besides Squaw Valley) and even then it was only in some books as a kid. James Fenimore Cooper probably..

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I honestly didn't know that there was any controversy around it myself. I haven't seen or heard it in decades, (besides Squaw Valley) and even then it was only in some books as a kid. James Fenimore Cooper probably..
Actually I guess MC was referring to Winnetou by Karl May. Every home had it, back home too*. The last of the Mohicans was extremely popular in the 80s (and probably in the 70s) too.

* First thing you notice when you are a child is what kind of books do people have in their homes. Right, it used to be like this.
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Mme Macron - back to square one, it really means what I and millions of fellow countrymen have thought, a young woman (aka chick - so a compliment, really).
An odd choice of term to describe Mme Macron, if that's what you thought it meant.
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