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Trump wins again!

"For all President Donald Trump's recent "fire and fury" rhetoric toward North Korea, he seems to have accurately assessed Kim Jong Un's unwillingness to provoke the US with a missile test near Guam and called the North Korean leader on his bluff."

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Now that he's saved the day I can't wait for the msm to say something positive about him!
North Korea early on Saturday fired several short-range projectiles into the sea off its east coast from its eastern Kangwon province, South Korea’s military said.

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John Kelly is doing a good job of draining the swamp

Controversial Trump adviser Sebastian Gorka out of White House job
Officials say the fringe figure and former Bretibart writer did not resign, amid reports that new chief of staff John Kelly forced Gorka out


Sebastian Gorka, who previously wrote about national security for Breitbart News, at the White House. Photograph: Susan Walsh/AP

Sebastian Gorka, a fringe rightwing figure with questionable foreign policy and security credentials, is no longer working for the Trump administration, a White House official said on Friday.

The official said Gorka did not resign but would not elaborate on the circumstances of his departure. The New York Times reported that the president’s new chief of staff, John Kelly, had made clear that he no longer wanted Gorka in the White House, and forced him out.

Gorka, the deputy assistant to the president, advised Donald Trump on national security but his responsibilities were vague. He frequently appeared as a surrogate for Trump on cable news, where he appeared to enjoy stirring controversy during his months-long tenure.

The Guardian has reported that Gorka, who is a naturalized US citizen born in London to Hungarian parents, has past ties to far-right groups in Hungary. Gorka denied having been a part of the group.

He has drawn fierce criticism for his views on Islam. He was a vocal proponent of Trump’s attempt to temporarily ban travel from six Muslim-majority countries. When a bomb exploded at a Mosque in outside of Minneapolis, Gorka defended Trump’s silence on the attack by suggesting that it could have been a “fake hate crime”.

Liberals and progressives have long decried Gorka’s presence in the White House. In the wake of the deadly violence during a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, civil rights groups called on the president to fire Gorka and Steve Bannon, who served as the president’s former chief of staff until he was removed from his role last week.

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North Korea early on Saturday fired several short-range projectiles into the sea off its east coast from its eastern Kangwon province, South Korea’s military said.

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Looks like it's going to be war

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President Donald Trump pardons former Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
This was the guy who locked people up because they looked like Latinos.

But U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said while the pardon is within the president's authority, ".@POTUS's pardon of Joe Arpaio, who illegally profiled Latinos doing so at this time undermines his claim for the respect of rule of law as Mr. Arpaio has shown no remorse for his actions.”

Latino and migrant-rights leaders in Arizona said the pardon sends a message nationwide to officials, from police to judges: It's OK for law enforcement to racially profile people of colour and violate their civil rights.

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After his Charlottesville remarks he really seems to be trying to stir up civil unrest
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"Being kidnapped by Bots" sounds like a good reasoning behind politics going the way we don't like.

Some bots eat my socks, btw. Can't pair them.
It's surprising to see people believe it goes in the wrong direction. Everybody who had a small interest in the collective mentality and local behavioral patterns would have seen that coming. Maybe it did happen for the wrong reasons but the final result was predictable. So what does it make it wrong from some points of view.

The area of influence will be restricted but I guess this was not taken into consideration at all when people voted. They didn't vote for anything long term, as it usually happens. So Brexit did happen, and it was obvious it would. I read EF for a while and even I, as an outsider, could understand some things.
People should move on. Trump is the next thing we can focus all that energy, probably again for the wrong reasons.
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Controversial Trump adviser Sebastian Gorka out of White House job.
The People lose again.
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Old 26.08.2017, 10:47
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the people of colour lose again.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Anyway, on to more important matters.....

A big hurricane is bearing down on Texas, and Trump gives two thumbs up, saying good luck. Meanwhile, no head for FEMA, very little disaster management structure in place at the federal level. I guess the weather channel wins this one.
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Anyway, on to more important matters.....

A big hurricane is bearing down on Texas, and Trump gives two thumbs up, saying good luck. Meanwhile, no head for FEMA, very little disaster management structure in place at the federal level. I guess the weather channel wins this one.
Fake News!

It's not a hurricane! It's good fresh air to blow away the bad hombres. America has the best air.
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ftfy :d
The opposite, surely? Godka holds far-right views, apparently, so his ouster would be positive for black people, one would think.
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Don't be hysterical and label politically when nothing was political. I can do it too, look: people are flying the diversity flag but can't get rid of a myopic one-culture goggles. Otherwise it would be easy to understand that diversity means that people coming from different cultures will be using words differently, as they learned them. And why immediately start cursing when frustration clogs the vision?


So much conservatism in these threads loaded by libs. Wow.
Talking about restricting areas of offence: amazing how much energy people spend with potential offences while at the same time failing to follow their own standards in concrete situations.
I get it that a vigorous support group makes some feel they are right and they can settle the limits for everybody, it is all what it takes for someone who is not really interested to be fair and unbiased, but to always be right.
It was an interesting thread for me especially because I saw people opposing, I mean aggressively opposing ideas that were mostly approved in other threads, or overlooked at least, when personal and emotional involvement were stronger. Cultural goggles is maybe another name for cognitive dissonance, but nobody is immune. I don't support Trump, in fact it could be anyone else in that position as far as I am concerned. But I do question the general ingenuity and intellectual honesty.
Right. Back to the topic. Trump has no real chances to be a good president because he would have to be a good president for all. It's already too much polarization, too much antagonism. Too much controversy. I think the damage is beyond recovery, or maybe I am led to believe this, who knows. I'll follow your advice and drop the internet memes, go hiking.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump Continues the Never-ending Afghan Opium War
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Old 27.08.2017, 00:58
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Talking about restricting areas of offence: amazing how much energy people spend with potential offences while at the same time failing to follow their own standards in concrete situations.
I get it that a vigorous support group makes some feel they are right and they can settle the limits for everybody, it is all what it takes for someone who is not really interested to be fair and unbiased, but to always be right.
It was an interesting thread for me especially because I saw people opposing, I mean aggressively opposing ideas that were mostly approved in other threads, or overlooked at least, when personal and emotional involvement were stronger. Cultural goggles is maybe another name for cognitive dissonance, but nobody is immune. I don't support Trump, in fact it could be anyone else in that position as far as I am concerned. But I do question the general ingenuity and intellectual honesty.
Right. Back to the topic. Trump has no real chances to be a good president because he would have to be a good president for all. It's already too much polarization, too much antagonism. Too much controversy. I think the damage is beyond recovery, or maybe I am led to believe this, who knows. I'll follow your advice and drop the internet memes, go hiking.
"Trump has no real chances to be a good president because he would have to be a good president for all. It's already too much polarization, too much antagonism" But it is the same challenge for every President?
Nobody can score 100% but they stand a good chance of getting majority support because they were voted in by the majority. More difficult in Trump's case because he did not win the "popular" vote so did not have the majority.

Supposing Trump had delivered his campaign promise of healthcare for everybody at a lower price then he would be seen as a good president; unfortunately it was impossible. Maybe if he had taken innovative steps like reducing medicine prices and capping medical malpractice awards......
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Looks like it's going to be war
Unfortunately that's a virtual given. The only question is who/which country the target will be.
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Fake News!

It's not a hurricane! It's good fresh air to blow away the bad hombres. America has the best air.
OMG, DB is back, I've so missed his acerbic wit.

Actually Donald made sure that the immigration police kept their posts; two of the main evacuation routes were well manned, illegals had the choice of being arrested at checkpoints if they left, or staying and braving the hurricane.

On the subject of War, we might try something that provides major fake news but no real difference in terms of FP, like Afghanistan increase or better still Venezuela!

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Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Sunday that President Donald Trump "speaks for himself" when asked whether the President's response to the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, raised questions about Trump's values.

The brief remark from the top Cabinet official appeared to be the latest subtle sign of a gap between Tillerson, a former globe-trotting oil executive, and the freewheeling President.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

This thread has become more and more of a microcosm of Trumpiness.

Say something stupid. Get called on it. Try to cover up evidence of saying something stupid and then deny it ever happened, or that it did, but that you totally meant something else. You did understand, you have the best understanding.

Amazingly, just like in America, people buy it, too, despite the evidence staring them in the face.
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Unfortunately that's a virtual given. The only question is who/which country the target will be.
I think the target is going to be the USA

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This thread has become more and more of a microcosm of Trumpiness.

Say something stupid. Get called on it. Try to cover up evidence of saying something stupid and then deny it ever happened, or that it did, but that you totally meant something else. You did understand, you have the best understanding.

Amazingly, just like in America, people buy it, too, despite the evidence staring them in the face.
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This thread has become more and more of a microcosm of Trumpiness.

Say something stupid. Get called on it. Try to cover up evidence of saying something stupid and then deny it ever happened, or that it did, but that you totally meant something else. You did understand, you have the best understanding.

Amazingly, just like in America, people buy it, too, despite the evidence staring them in the face.
Please, please tell anyone here how to think....

Call them, tell them they are imbeciles and whatever you think it is OK, because YOU ARE RIGHT.

Even though nobody insulted you, but it is OK, common sense and logics don't apply to EF.
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