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In Houston, they took in many Katrina refugees and learned a lot from the NOLA experience. Houston has received much more rain in a shorter time, but people have been a bit better prepared and the infrastructure is better. Not perfect, and there will be some criticisms.

When you read numbers such as 30,000 people going to shelters, it sounds huge. But the population of the greater Houston area is more than 5 million, so all things considered they're managing rather well. Compare that to Katrina - the population of NOLA was less than half a million before the storm and they still had tens of thousands in shelters.
From the little I heard from the ground, it is much worse than is being reported in US media. Would be nice to have the five billion back spent overthrowing the Yanukovych gov't, or the billions and billions spent fighting a Sunni/Shia war in Syria (neither of which benefit we the US citizens on this continent in any way).

This is what concerned me the most, although these reactors are not of the antiquated BWR design at Fukushima:

http://markets.businessinsider.com/n...7-8-1002292941
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From the little I heard from the ground, it is much worse than is being reported in US media. Would be nice to have the five billion back spent overthrowing the Yanukovych gov't, or the billions and billions spent fighting a Sunni/Shia war in Syria (neither of which benefit we the US citizens on this continent in any way).

This is what concerned me the most, although these reactors are not of the antiquated BWR design at Fukushima:

http://markets.businessinsider.com/n...7-8-1002292941

Yes - the US media is known to downplay events as they unfold, so I'm sure it is much worse than what they are reporting.

You also sound like someone who knows about nuclear power. Tell us more.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Our President is so totally deluded, seriously it is time for the guys in the white coats!

What a crowd, what a turnout,” Trump said, wearing khakis and a storm jacket — an unusual look for him — while waving a Texas state flag before about 1,000 people gathered across a rural Texas highway.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...remarks-242157
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Yes - the US media is known to downplay events as they unfold, so I'm sure it is much worse than what they are reporting.
I would say most Western media does the same. Quoting the illustrious Mr. Juncker: "When it becomes serious, you have to lie"

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ve-to-lie.html

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You also sound like someone who knows about nuclear power. Tell us more.
tl;dr: Fukushima is about a hundred times worse than you are told and the technology to clean it up does not yet, and may never, exist.

Not as much as you might think beyond college science classes, but I have studied the Fukushima nuclear disaster. From what I have read, it is the absolute worst industrial accident in recorded history.

Reactor III exploded into the air, and explosions in a reactor are impossible (they came up with hydrogen explosion as an explanation, but not likely for III). The remains of it are even today an open air pit. Reactors I and II were less damaged although Reactor I ostensibly suffered a hydrogen explosion through the roof. The large red towers behind the reactor buildings were added after Three Mile Island to plants in order to prevent hydrogen explosions, so these "hydrogen explosions" make me scratch my head. Reactor II I believe was the only building which did not suffer damage but the inside reactor building itself I believe is now the most radioactive place on Earth. Reactor II was also confirmed to have had melted material breach containment, so literally the China Syndrome has occured. All reactors contained a spent fuel pool (SFP) as well, which held used rods during their long cooling process. The true fate of these is mostly unknown, especially Reactor IV.

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https://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/...-at-reactor-2/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ima-plant.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7612396.html

This I think is interesting, from 1990:

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articl...nobyl-Cleanup/


Reactor IV was defueled at the time of the tsunami but held 1500 control rods in its SFP, and it too exploded. Hatrick Penry wrote a paper on it around 2013/14 using US FOIA information (freedom of information act, you request gov't information which is partially blacked out). Using factual email evidence, he argued the SFP in Reactor IV burnt off into the atmosphere which was denied by everyone involved (and is horrific to contemplate).

The former President made an impromptu trip to Brazil shortly after the disaster with his entire family. I cannot find the original source, but I recall in 2013/14 an interview with the Brazilian ambassador saying there was no trip scheduled and something to the effect of Air Force One just sort of showed up and requested access to Brazilian airspace.

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http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar...latin-20110319

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-i...stions-please/

Paging through this, it appears Hatrick Penry turned the paper into a book:

https://archive.org/details/PlumeGate

This email basically proves the point on Reactor IV:

https://archive.org/stream/PlumeGate...e/n29/mode/2up


The 2011 solution which is still in effect, is to pump seawater into what is left of the cooling systems and into the reactor remains to keep the melted cores cool. Initially from what I remember, when the cooling system failed someone on site wanted to dump seawater mixed with boron into the valves but was denied by Tepco. Seawater would ruin the reactor on the inside I believe because of sediments, and initially Tepco must have believed they could salvage the situation. So instead of water at critical first moments, nothing. Brilliant. Maybe they really do want Godzilla in Japan?

Eventually and I cannot recall when in the disaster, the plant was given up for loss and they started pumping in the seawater. There are two problems with this, 1. they have to store the radioactive seawater after it filters through and 2. because of the damage, the reactor buildings leak into the Earth and make the ground soft. Thus some of the buildings are slowly sinking and may one day tip over into the Pacific.

Tepco admitted in 2013, 300 tonnes of radioactive water are leaking into the Pacific *per day*. This means in fact the Pacific has become slightly radioactive and helps explain the die off of sea life. The water storage situation is also dangerous because it was not thought through very well as it just keeps accumulating. There were plans to dump it all into the ocean but these were shelved for politics. Odds are it will eventually happen.


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http://fukushima-diary.com/2015/07/t...kushima-plant/

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ve-water-leak/

http://nautil.us/blog/no-one-knows-w...ioactive-water

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I would say most Western media does the same. Quoting the illustrious Mr. Juncker: "When it becomes serious, you have to lie"

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ve-to-lie.html
What is the relationship between the two statements above?

Are you claiming that Juncker said something worse and the Telegraph downplayed it?

Or are you saying that the media publishing politician's lies is what you mean by your statement "media is known to downplay events"?

Edit - BTW, politicians lying is not new, e.g. Trump; to get back on topic.

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Trump merch is going to make America great again.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-tr...190834069.html

Does he have any (hidden) subsidiary companies that could grab as much Texan land for cheap in order to MAGA Trump style?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

@TwentyEightTripsLater

You wrote "helps explain the die off of sea life" which is a pretty serious claim when you did not give any source.

Contrariwise "Five Years After The Fukushima Disaster, the Fish Are Proliferating"

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Or this "Here's your go-to source for debunking all the Fukushima fables"

Seems that your forecast that radioactive water would be dumped into the ocean was correct "Radioactive waste from Fukushima power plant disaster to be dumped in sea"
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You wrote "helps explain the die off of sea life" which is a pretty serious claim when you did not give any source.

Contrariwise "Five Years After The Fukushima Disaster, the Fish Are Proliferating"

Source

Or this "Here's your go-to source for debunking all the Fukushima fables"


Seems that your forecast that radioactive water would be dumped into the ocean was correct "Radioactive waste from Fukushima power plant disaster to be dumped in sea"
There are petitions to be signed against Japan's plan to dump radioactive waste in the ocean.
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Contrariwise "Five Years After The Fukushima Disaster, the Fish Are Proliferating"
Even better, they all have 3 eyes!
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so literally the China Syndrome has occured ...
Hang on, you mean the actual China Syndrome, in which nucular material burns its way all the way through the earth and arrives at the antipodes of the site of the original nucular accident?

Where's the antipodes of Fukushima?

Hang on! It's just off the coast of Brazil!

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You mean - are you trying to say that the President actually knew that the actual nucular material had burned its way through the entire planet and arrived in Brazil? Is that what you're saying?

If that's the case, that's truly terrifying. What else does the President know that he's not telling us? This nucular thing isn't funny. I've seen documentaries about what happens when nucular rays go wrong.

This is a photograph of the students at an actual school in actual Brazil, taken just recently:



There's definitely something in it.
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This is a photograph of the students at an actual school in actual Brazil, taken just recently:



There's definitely something in it.
I forgot of the figure but my mate in the pub says there must be brazilans and brazilans of peoples living in brazil. Maybe even thousands of brazilians. We can't be sure cos nobody there can count. Some of them brazilians is like black and lives in fava beans and if they get hurt that is so totally racist. This just proofs that the Trump is a racist soup remix. Even the house he liffs in America is called the white house. If that isn't proof enuf?
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From the little I heard from the ground, it is much worse than is being reported in US media. Would be nice to have the five billion back spent overthrowing the Yanukovych gov't, or the billions and billions spent fighting a Sunni/Shia war in Syria (neither of which benefit we the US citizens on this continent in any way).

This is what concerned me the most, although these reactors are not of the antiquated BWR design at Fukushima:

http://markets.businessinsider.com/n...7-8-1002292941
Wonder how all those Texas Republican Congress members who voted against all of the Sandy relief bills will vote now the problem is in their own back yard!
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What is the relationship between the two statements above?

Are you claiming that Juncker said something worse and the Telegraph downplayed it?
No, I was merely agreeing with his point.

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Edit - BTW, politicians lying is not new, e.g. Trump; to get back on topic.
Agreed.
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This is a photograph of the students at an actual school in actual Brazil, taken just recently:



There's definitely something in it.

Shhh about it or the black helicopters will be coming to get you.
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Wonder how all those Texas Republican Congress members who voted against all of the Sandy relief bills will vote now the problem is in their own back yard!
Good point. Sandy was pretty bad but this sounds much worse but in a more localized area. Katrina or possibly Hugo (1992) may have been the most expensive to this point, but I suspect this will top them both.

Additional: In 2002, I named my then new car Katrina. After the hurricane people didn't care much for the name.
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Shhh about it or the black helicopters will be coming to get you.
There was a black helicopter flying over our village this morning!

But I've heard that it will rain champagne when the helicopters come, so that's all right then.
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But I've heard that it will rain champagne when the helicopters come, so that's all right then.
They didn't mention though, it will be California champagne
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U.S. President Donald Trump’s criticism of journalists amounts to an attack on the freedom of the press and could provoke violence against reporters, the United Nations’ human rights chief said on Wednesday.

Zeid Ra’ad al-Hussein said Trump had also made worrying remarks about women, Mexicans and Muslims and went on to question the president’s approach to immigration and decision to pardon former Arizona lawman Joe Arpaio.

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A large number of Louisiana Republicans think President Barack Obama is to blame for the federal government’s poor response to Hurricane Katrina, according to a new Public Policy Polling survey released Wednesday — despite the fact that the storm occurred three years before he took office.

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There is quite a Twitter storm at the moment among Trump supporters about President Barack Obama's poor response to Hurricane Katrina although he was not President until 3 years later. All just too depressing
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So apparently 71% of Republicans had their brain removed..
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