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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump got into U Penn as a transfer from the less selective Fordham University, facilitated by his brother who knew someone in Penn admissions. He has an undergraduate degree from Penn. Ivy League schools have a lot of legacy admissions or admissions where somebody knows somebody else. Ivy League schools also have a lot of smart students. Diversity.



Is Trump smart? Probably. Does it mean anything? I guess it means what he can make of it.
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What I like about the American Tertiary Education System is that they strictly do not allow Universities like Harvard, to allow say 30% or so of admissions to be discretionary, based on donations from the family rather than academic ability.

What's that...they do allow this? Hmm, I guess your point is invalid then. Odd, as you normally make such cogent arguments.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/06/harv...rd-legacy.html
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I think it is the first politically astute thing Trump has done. He has reversed a unilateral and contentious decision and placed it squarely in the laps of the lawmakers who should be the ones making these decisions to begin with. He may have launched the missile, but Congress will decide whether it gets armed or not. It is great to watch our representatives squirm. They all suck IMO.

Unfortunately, he is using the DACA kids as pawns. Would love to see a very liberal grandfather clause applied moving forward, but only after an individual review which provides an opportunity to deport those that have not taken advantage of the opportunity they were given. The "bad hombres" as it were.
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I think it is the first politically astute thing Trump has done. He has reversed a unilateral and contentious decision and placed it squarely in the laps of the lawmakers who should be the ones making these decisions to begin with. He may have launched the missile, but Congress will decide whether it gets armed or not. It is great to watch our representatives squirm. They all suck IMO.

Unfortunately, he is using the DACA kids as pawns. Would love to see a very liberal grandfather clause applied moving forward, but only after an individual review which provides an opportunity to deport those that have not taken advantage of the opportunity they were given. The "bad hombres" as it were.
I believe Trump's deal with the Democrats about Govt. Spending limit & Harvey relief was Presidential. GOP have demonstrated they cannot deliver his agenda so a bipartisan approach is very sensible.
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I believe Trump's deal with the Democrats about Govt. Spending limit & Harvey relief was Presidential. GOP have demonstrated they cannot deliver his agenda so a bipartisan approach is very sensible.
Finally a sensible thing indeed, see how many anti-Trump's will turn into pro-Trump's eventually? Everything depends on speople's pet peeves. I think he's smart, he'll give everyone what they want to hear (except for the hard core lefties). I predict he'll have a second mandate too.
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Finally a sensible thing indeed, see how many anti-Trump's will turn into pro-Trump's eventually? Everything depends on speople's pet peeves. I think he's smart, he'll give everyone what the want to hear. I predict he'll have a second mandate too.

I not pro or anti, I simply react to his actions. I would not post negatively when he did something positive.
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I not pro or anti, I simply react to his actions. I would not post negatively when he did something positive.
Of course, Marton.
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Finally a sensible thing indeed, see how many anti-Trump's will turn into pro-Trump's eventually? Everything depends on speople's pet peeves. I think he's smart, he'll give everyone what they want to hear (except for the hard core lefties). I predict he'll have a second mandate too.
This thread is gonna have a long life....I'll amuse myself checking it from time to time and paying attention to who says what at certain moments.
Oh, I'm anti. Suspect I'll not be pro. But I'd rather see him do useful crap than upend the country. He might even accomplish stuff as he is probably the most apolitical president I've seen in my lifetime. If he can get the constipated congress moving, good for him!

He's still got a long way to go though in effecting positive change ---- the people he's put into his cabinet and leadership positions are crackpots - deVos in education, Price in HHS, and Sessions as Atty General, to name a few.
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Oh, I'm anti. Suspect I'll not be pro. But I'd rather see him do useful crap than upend the country. He might even accomplish stuff as he is probably the most apolitical president I've seen in my lifetime. If he can get the constipated congress moving, good for him!

He's still got a long way to go though in effecting positive change ---- the people he's put into his cabinet and leadership positions are crackpots - deVos in education, Price in HHS, and Sessions as Atty General, to name a few.
+1.

I do not like nor trust him or his cabinet. My personal opinion, which is just that, and irrelevant in the big scheme of things. I do like the USA and I am very much interested in seeing the country succeed and progress - if Pres. Trump accomplishes much needed reforms and gets Congress moving, he'll get his credit where credit is due.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

If you want any grants for your research projects, you have to kiss (political) ass, but even that won't help you if your research is in climate:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.4b3a40f1e102


And this nomination:

http://www.npr.org/2017/09/04/547934...t-a-scientist"
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<<And a lot of what we see is junk science>>

HA! After fake news we got junk science now.
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<<And a lot of what we see is junk science>>

HA! After fake news we got junk science now.
After Scott Pruitt at the EPA and Betsy DeVos at Education, I am cynically surprised at nothing. Or rather, he could surprise me by appointing people who are actually qualified for the job!
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What I like about the American Tertiary Education System is that they strictly do not allow Universities like Harvard, to allow say 12% or so of admissions to be discretionary, based on donations from the family rather than academic ability.

What's that...they do allow this? Hmm, I guess your point is invalid then. Odd, as you normally make such cogent arguments.
Who are "they"?

Of course there are admissions based on donations or influences, so what? Do you think it's easy to graduate from such institutions? Anyway, it's a very small part and probably happens in any other university.
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Finally a sensible thing indeed, see how many anti-Trump's will turn into pro-Trump's eventually? Everything depends on speople's pet peeves. I think he's smart, he'll give everyone what they want to hear (except for the hard core lefties). I predict he'll have a second mandate too.
You don't need to like or support him to recognise and acknowledge a smart or good move. It's similar to not shooting the messenger for the bad news.

No, I don't see me ever like him as POTUS, nor do I think he'll turn out to be a good one. So far he'll clearly be a very bad and inept one, there's too much wrong with him and his cronyism, and this about-face won't improve his relations with the republicans, quite the contrary.

But I'm open to changing my opinion when the facts change.

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Who are "they"?

Of course there are admissions based on donations or influences, so what? Do you think it's easy to graduate from such institutions? Anyway, it's a very small part and probably happens in any other university.
Another person who needs to stop digging.
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Who are "they"?

Of course there are admissions based on donations or influences, so what? Do you think it's easy to graduate from such institutions? Anyway, it's a very small part and probably happens in any other university.
Actually, getting into these places is the hard part. Sure, you can flunk out, but once you're in there are lots of resources to help you stay the course. Remember that Trump's son in law was a very mediocre student - at Harvard.
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I wonder how much antagonism of what is obviously an extreme anti-Trump sentiment comes from simple fear.
Fear is a huge driver. Not sure if it's possible to distinguish between simple and complex fear. And in this case, mainstream media must take responsibility for reporting every detail of Trump's path to the Presidency and exacerbating feelings of fear and anxiety. The uncertainty makes it difficult for people to think, focus and imagine - Trump is a giant unknown. We don't like unpredictable behavior. And of course, the fact that we place more weight on negative outcomes than positive ones - and the news is very, very negative. So yeah, lots of Americans are scared sh*tless. And the media, as well as opponents of Trump really are feeding this.

When you generate moderate amounts of fear and (anxiety), you encourage information seeking behaviors. Too much fear, and people shut down, and I wonder if we're getting to a point of fatigue. Resistance fatigue, information fatigue, all sorts of fatigue.

And it's a problem.
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Fear is a huge driver. Not sure if it's possible to distinguish between simple and complex fear. And in this case, mainstream media must take responsibility for reporting every detail of Trump's path to the Presidency and exacerbating feelings of fear and anxiety. The uncertainty makes it difficult for people to think, focus and imagine - Trump is a giant unknown. We don't like unpredictable behavior. And of course, the fact that we place more weight on negative outcomes than positive ones - and the news is very, very negative. So yeah, lots of Americans are scared sh*tless. And the media, as well as opponents of Trump really are feeding this.

When you generate moderate amounts of fear and (anxiety), you encourage information seeking behaviors. Too much fear, and people shut down, and I wonder if we're getting to a point of fatigue. Resistance fatigue, information fatigue, all sorts of fatigue.

And it's a problem.
"mainstream media must take responsibility for reporting every detail of Trump's path to the Presidency and exacerbating feelings of fear and anxiety. "

Trump is doing the best he can to drive the mainstream media out of business so, of course, they do not treat him well. What else do you and he expect?
106 Fake news tweets!!

You know the expression "what goes around come around"?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Some good news!

The House approved Friday a package of bills that ties emergency funding for Harvey hurricane relief with measures that would raise the debt ceiling and keep the government open for three months.

The bill, which passed 316-90 and was part of a deal struck between President Donald Trump and Democratic leaders, now goes to the White House for the President's signature.
The 90 lawmakers who opposed the bill were all Republicans, who had just come out of a meeting with top administration officials urging them to support the package. So 40% of the Republican lawmakers voting against hurricane relief
The Senate passed the legislation Thursday.

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So Republican lawmakers voting against hurricane relief; same as they did for Sandy.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

President Donald Trump's travel ban policy suffered another defeat Thursday as an appeals court rejected the administration’s attempt to deny grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins of Americans a temporary exemption from the controversial executive order.

A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously declined to overturn a district court judge’s ruling that the administration was taking too narrow a view of an exception the Supreme Court carved out from the travel ban in June.

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With all the resources available to "the most powerful man in the world" I fail to understand why they cannot write bullet proof rules
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