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I know, thanks. I wanted to point that out.
Fake News.
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What I'm still struggling to work out is whether he is really a childish bludering narcissist fool, acting more on inpulse than in regard to analysis or informed advice, or whether he is actually a cunning strategist putting on an amazing trolling act and secretly laughing his arse off. Or whether he is actually a mixture of the two.


I lean toward the former, I don't agree that he's a great self publicist, he goes out and makes a fool of himself and that gets in the news as a clown figure. Scaramucci and Spicer had significantly elevated profiles too but you wouldn't put that down to being expert media manipulators.


I'd love to believe he knows what he's doing as we'd all be safer but they elected a clown and we got a circus.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I wish he'd just stop playing the media and get down to the job at hand. 6 tweets in the last 2hrs are two hours wasted. You'd imagine a President would be busy.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I think he has realised that without a lifelong career in politics, and therefore allies you can rely on, opponents you have dirt on and others that might owe you a favour don't really exist. He can't get anything significant done. Not without hard work anyway, and that would get in the way of the golf. It would appear he isn't the master negotiator he thought he was (and fooled large swathes of population to buy into).

At least on Twitter he can announce what he's trying to get done and aim blame at others in advance.
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What I'm still struggling to work out is whether he is really a childish bludering narcissist fool, acting more on inpulse than in regard to analysis or informed advice, or whether he is actually a cunning strategist putting on an amazing trolling act and secretly laughing his arse off. Or whether he is actually a mixture of the two.
He may be lauging his arse off or not but he definitely has reason to, simply because he's in power.

I think it's a mixture of both. Stuff that requires a long term to take effect, strategy if you will, has been planned and executed well (use of language and limited vocabulary as well as the sermon-like intonation in his rally speeches, for example) but short-term reactions are effectively expressions of his narcissistic character and ordinary unintended blunders.
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A federal judge in Hawaii has blocked President Donald Trump's latest revised travel ban one day before it was set to take effect.

Breaking story; more details later

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Second federal judge blocks Trump's curbs (third travel ban) on U.S. visitors.

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It really is a circus; Trump's third attempt to ban US visitors looks like it does not comply with the US Constitution so will likely go through the rounds of appeals court and US supreme court.

If Trump took proper legal advice at the start and then created legislation via Congress instead of trying to take short cuts over the Executive Order route then life would be much simpler and cheaper!!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I don't believe saying "he knew what he was getting himself into", when said in reference to somebody who made the ultimate sacrifice for their country and to their family can be misinterpreted in any way. While I am sure Trump didn't intend for his comment to be so insensitive, he has absolutely no sense of sensitivity.

Of course there seems to be no one reigning in his stupidity, then again I think that is the overall plan, Trump is a pawn.
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Trust in mainstream media is also at a record low. Incidentally, trust in anything is down.
How's trust in President Trump going?

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A. Bollocks, this phone call was for the family and this politician just happened to be in the car with them and B. Being offended on someone else's behalf is not a news story. The family are still the only ones who should can comment on this.
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The mother of Sgt. La David Johnson, who was killed in an ambush in Niger earlier this month, said President Trump did disrespect her family, despite Trump's insistence that remarks about a phone conversation he had with Johnson's widow were "fabricated."

"President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband," Johnson's mother, Cowanda Jones-Johnson, told The Washington Post.

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The mother of Sgt. La David Johnson, who was killed in an ambush in Niger earlier this month, said President Trump did disrespect her family, despite Trump's insistence that remarks about a phone conversation he had with Johnson's widow were "fabricated."

"President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband," Johnson's mother, Cowanda Jones-Johnson, told The Washington Post.

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It's not as if he doesn't have form, is it? Wasn't his parting shot to a group of islanders on Puerto Rico shortly after they'd lost everything in the hurricane: "Have a good time"? How Alan Partridge is that??
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How's trust in President Trump going?

I understand people are trusting him to make an even bigger mess.
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This isn't a case of deflecting to his critics, it's a case fair reporting. If the family in question weren't offended by what he said then there is no story here. They're the only one's who can pass judgement. Paraphrasing from an opposition politician is shoddy news.

It could well be that the family didn't like what he said, however they should be the ones to come forward. Now with this media storm, I'm sure we'll be seeing them on Oprah within days talking of their pain and after a week or two everything will be forgotten and they'll be flung on the slag heap as Trump's opponents will have gotten their pound of political flesh out of them.
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It's not as if he doesn't have form, is it? Wasn't his parting shot to a group of islanders on Puerto Rico shortly after they'd lost everything in the hurricane: "Have a good time"? How Alan Partridge is that??
If we wait long enough, do we think Donald Trump will tell the truth about something?
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If we wait long enough, do we think Donald Trump will tell the truth about something?
Even a stopped clock tells the truth...

But I wouldn't hold my breath
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Read this !
http://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn...get-trump-call
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The mother of Sgt. La David Johnson, who was killed in an ambush in Niger earlier this month, said President Trump did disrespect her family, despite Trump's insistence that remarks about a phone conversation he had with Johnson's widow were "fabricated."

"President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband," Johnson's mother, Cowanda Jones-Johnson, told The Washington Post.

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This was clear, after the media storm that has been whipped up. Which, in a time when a family is grieving just shows how low the media and politics has sunk. Trump's reaction is no better. He should have just ignored it, but he came out fighting and, what the Liberal Media consistently seem oblivious of, this is what his supporters love about him. It's like the election never happened.

At best this was a faux pas, and at worst it was insensitive. But clearly there was no intent to cause offence. That the story was broken in the first place at this time is shameful.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump did not say that. Its made up lies by the widow
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Trump tells grieving widow "he knew what he signed up for".

Yes, I'm sure he did, but his widow doesn't really need reminding of it right now.

Classy
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Trump did not say that. Its made up lies by the widow
Lies made up by failing mainstream widow about failed soldier husband. Sad!
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This was clear, after the media storm that has been whipped up. Which, in a time when a family is grieving just shows how low the media and politics has sunk. Trump's reaction is no better. He should have just ignored it, but he came out fighting and, what the Liberal Media consistently seem oblivious of, this is what his supporters love about him. It's like the election never happened.

At best this was a faux pas, and at worst it was insensitive. But clearly there was no intent to cause offence. That the story was broken in the first place at this time is shameful.
One man's "whipped up media storm" is another man's "reporting it" depending on which team you bat for.

I'm sure it wasn't intended to cause offence but it just further shines a light on how inept and out of touch he is. Throughout his business career he has probably employed lackeys to deal with personnel and pastoral issues. Now he's the president, anything and everything he does is open to public opinion. Don't know why people think he should be treated any differently to presidents gone by.
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Trump did not say that. Its made up lies by the widow
Yeah, we know it's all lies put out by the Fake News media expressly to discredit Trump -- because He said so! And whatever He says is always true, so that's how we know that the widow and the Fake News media and everybody else in the world except Trump all lied.
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