How so?

They do not feed off the moral win?

I think that if enough people pulled out of the stock market, the economy would take a dive and this would force change.
Most people will not risk their future financially, WE say that we cannot afford to take risks, we will go so far, but not far enough. However, we are risking our future and that of others financially by not forcing change.
I don't know about Switzerland, but a large proportion of 20-40 year old.here still live with their parents despite college degrees and experience, they will never earn much above minimum wage.
Others cannot afford to retire, they can't afford medication or health services. Here in The Bay Area, rents are rising, people can no longer afford a roof over their heads. Robots.are taking over, taxi and lorry drivers will be unemployed. Run if the mill coders will be redundant. People are already discussing paying the growing underclass a minimum, just enough fo keep them fed and docile, to be resigned to a fate of never being emoployed and soon after never being heard.
It's a new Golden Age, except this time, the poor can't threaten to withdraw their labour, their labour will no longer needed, they will be powerless to effect change. The growing underclass will be rendered completely innefectual, Like a modern day untermensch and ubermensch, the process is under way and soon it will be too late to turn back the clock.

Trump said last night;
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http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/20/po...ess/index.html

So it was OK for Trump to have a room full of people secretly listening to the call but not for Wilson

It's a commonly held belief, but I watched a show the other night that discussed Black Monday and where we are now compared to then. An "expert" who was on the floor on Black Monday said the market is not necessarily due for a crash, although one can expect some jumpy folks to take the profits and run. Long term investors aren't freaking out (yet).

According to this guy, all the indicators are that the markets will remain strong/bullish for the near future, and even if there's a shock they can't crash as far as they did in 1987 due to the technology and "brakes" that have been put in place.

Not to say folks couldn't lose a ton of money again with a correction, but it wouldn't be as bad as Black Monday.

Yellen - My guess is is that he's leaning towards no. He's not a continuity kind of guy. He has recently backtracked from his earlier criticism to say she's doing a good job, but I think he will push for someone new that he thinks he can influence or control.

Leaving USA - We heard that thousands would leave when Obama was elected; conservatives stayed. We heard that thousands would leave when Trump was elected; liberals stayed. I don't see how the midterms would change that. In addition, where would they go?

The Rs are likely to lose some seats at the midterm. This is normal buyer's remorse with voters. If you look back at the history of midterm elections, most of the time the party of the sitting president has a net loss of seats in Congress at the midterms.

The only exceptions since 1910 were:
- FDR's first term, when the Ds gained 18 total seats
- Clinton's second term, when the Ds gained 5, and
- Bush 43's first term, when the Rs gained 10

Compare those small gains to the biggest losses:
- FDR's second term, when the Ds lost 79 seats
- Obama's first term, when the Ds lost 69, and
- Harding's only term, when the Rs lost 84

Overall, the Ds appear to come out of midterms much worse than the Rs.

Europeans or others coming to the USA - There are still thousands of people across the globe that view the U.S. as the land of opportunity. Students still want to go there for an education. You can go there with virtually empty pockets, work your butt off, and eventually run your own business. Try showing up in Switzerland with empty pockets and see how far you get.

That's not to say the U.S. is the land of milk and honey - far from it - but there are plenty of folks who would happily move there and take the place of those that want to leave.

Absolutely. And they will make it, most probably.

I do not think they will succeed because they'd feel any moral superiority.

Devastated liberals, as hoppy pointed out, probably don't realize yet, that they are losing exactly by that illusive virtue. Imagined moral superiority. "Blocking" Trump, as she wrote, pulling out stocks, and other stunts, do not translate into having any real impact. No matter how morally superior one might feel.

Pulling out one's stocks is just a naieve and self sanctioning move. Sorry, hoppy, I personally, hope that things work out for you the best possible way, I am glad we have "reporters" here from there.

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As President Donald Trump wages daily war against the press, millennials are subscribing to legacy news publications in record numbers—and at a growth rate, data suggests, far outpacing any other age group.

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These bureaucrats are out of control

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The problem with over-the-top rhetoric is that some people believe and act on it

Trump interview with Maria Bartiromo, Fox business news today
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Trump tweet yesterday

Anybody see a slight inconsistency between these two statements?

And today the childish stuff continues

Corker's reply
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If anyone had told me a year ago we would see these sorts of exchanges between the US President and senior politicians in his own party I would have laughed them out of court

Trump. The most dangerous person in the world


https://www.bluewin.ch/de/news/ausla...n-der-wel.html

Well said!

My husband and I are European, we live in the USA, and there is nowhere else we'd rather live. If anything, we see a clearer picture of the positives and negatives of this country, and are happy to stay here without drama, and do our small part to make our lives and the lives of those around us better.

We realize that the past elections and subsequent events have brought to light things that had long been brewing under the table, and, in many cases, there is greater awareness and much more active engagement in the community. Many people in this country were "asleep" and a bit complacent, or very angry without an outlet, or very unaware. I was very unaware - despite living and traveling all over the world, I had a very skewed, very partial vision of reality in the USA, for many reasons including having only lived as an adult in certain parts of the country, which are by no means representative of the whole!

So we are going nowhere anytime soon - well ok, perhaps if my husband has his way, at some point we'll trade our place in DC for a log cabin somewhere

Yep, still lots of people who can see their future in the USA, Trump or no Trump.
On the other hand I'd really want an invasion of American "liberals" in Europe, who knows they might change something.

Except that I don’t really believe you can arrive in the US penniless, work hard and succeed as a rule. For one thing, unless you arrive as a refugee or asylum seeker, you’re not going to get in without resources, support. For legal immigration you are not going to get in without quite a few pennies and usually someone to sponsor you.

So it’s a nice romantic story and all, but it’s just that.....a story. More American exceptionalism. Now refugees and asylum seekers might do ok, but they are usually supported by a community or group.

I have a colleague and a friend in our Atlanta office who came from Romania because she won the Green Card lottery. She only had a high school diploma, and came from a middle class family who definitely could not support her or pay any of her expenses in the US. Incredibly bright and motivated, she did a series of jobs while studying when she could, got a college education, got a masters education, got her CPA, is having a brilliant career and on the fast-track to partnership. I only met her a couple of years ago but did not know the story until recently, and I was flabbergasted.

Stories like these rarely make the news, but they happen.

Well, yeah, but the same could be said for any other Western country. Try getting into the UK, France, Germany, etc, if you don't have some cash and/or sponsorship. The days of turning up legally penniless and being welcomed with open arms in any country died decades and decades ago.

It is a lovely story. In this case she is one of the 50,000 or so people winning the green card lottery. But she would not have been able to immigrate as a penniless individual without a green card. With that greencard comes work authorization. So yes, the US has structures in place if you’re lucky enough to have support, have a sponsor or win the lottery. But still, you can’t do it on your own today.

But maybe that’s what you all mean by opportunity. So ok. I can only hope that the US is invaded by optimistic, hard working people.

I guess she didn't spent too much time on a Romanian expat forum during that time?

So glad for you two you feel that way - hurrah.

What on earth has it got with the OP though?

Increasingly, high ranking Republicans are turning away from Trump, resigning- and totally distancing from him- as he becomes more ande more unhinged in his tweets and behaviour.

U.S. Republican Senator Jeff Flake, one of the most prominent critics of President Donald Trump, said on Tuesday he was out of step with his party and would not seek re-election.

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