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Lots of speculation about who will be charged!
My speculation is they will first go after the little fish and hope with some plea bargaining that they will get good evidence about people higher up the food chain!

What do you think?
Unsubstatiated rumours say 5 people will be arrested today or tomorrow, including one 'big fish'. I'd be surprised if Flynn isn't one of them, but it's the others I'd be more interested in. We shall wait and see...but don't hold you're breath.
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Unsubstatiated rumours say 5 people will be arrested today or tomorrow, including one 'big fish'. I'd be surprised if Flynn isn't one of them, but it's the others I'd be more interested in. We shall wait and see...but don't hold you're breath.
It's Mueller Time!

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Strike 1 - Manafort.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/u...-indicted.html

Rumoured Strike 2 - Gates

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/30/po...der/index.html
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The Special Counsel announced that Paul Manafort and Richard Gates have been indicted by a federal grand jury.
The 12-count indictment is on "conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading FARA statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts."

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Edit - Manafort was the top official on the Trump campaign after then-campaign manager Corey Lewandowski was fired in June 2016 so will be interesting to see Trump's reaction.

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All of this "Russia" talk right when the Republicans are making their big push for historic Tax Cuts & Reform. Is this coincidental? NOT!
There is an implicit assumption here that there was a pause in "this "Russia" talk", I did not see such a pause? When was this pause?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A third Trump ally, George Papadopoulos, a former foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, pleaded guilty in a separate case for making false statements to the FBI, according to records unsealed today.

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Sorry, but this is years ago, before Paul Manafort was part of the Trump campaign. But why aren't Crooked Hillary & the Dems the focus?????
But surely the email server thing was also "years ago", anyway there was an investigation into that!

Anyway according to the indictment Manafort continued making such false declarations; not just years ago?

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#MAGA = Manafort And Gates Arrested

EDIT - here is the link to the Papadopoulos indictment that looks like providing proof of attempted collusion?

He was a former foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign.
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The desire for those meetings was communicated multiple times in 2016 to campaign officials, including writing “leadership, including Putin, is ready to meet with us and Mr. Trump should there be interest.”
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The latest tweets from Trump's account don't sound like him at all. Hmmm...

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Sorry, but this is years ago, before Paul Manafort was part of the Trump campaign. But why aren't Crooked Hillary & the Dems the focus?????
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...05659569041409

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Meanwhile on Fox News ....

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A good explanation of what's happening from an American Law Professor.

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/sta...88111880417280
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#17 Woah!
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Busy day today!!!

A federal judge in Washington blocked the Trump administration Monday from enforcing parts of its transgender military ban.

She blocked provisions having to do with accession and retention directives — meaning directives concerning joining and retaining military personnel.

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Democratic power lobbyist Tony Podesta, founder of the Podesta Group, is stepping down from the firm that bears his name after coming under investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller.

The investigation into Podesta and his firm grew out of investigators’ examination of Manafort’s finances.
Podesta Group was one of several firms that were paid to do work on the PR campaign to promote Ukraine in the U.S.

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Domino effect; how many more pieces to fall
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A third Trump ally, George Papadopoulos, a former foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, pleaded guilty in a separate case for making false statements to the FBI, according to records unsealed Monday.
The White House said "White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said his role was "extremely limited" on a voluntary advisory board.
"No activity was ever done in an official capacity," she said Monday."

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Now look at this photo from a Trump tweet; who is sitting four seats away from Trump facing the camera
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MAGA - Many Are Getting Accused
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The White House said "White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said his role was "extremely limited" on a voluntary advisory board.
"No activity was ever done in an official capacity," she said Monday."

Now look at this photo from a Trump tweet; who is sitting four seats away from Trump facing the camera
Whats wrong with Sander's statement?
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Whats wrong with Sander's statement?
According to the caption above the photo that is very much not just a "voluntary advisory board"
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I watched the press meeting last night and think Sanders did really, really well considering. I'd want her in my corner. Can you imagine Spicey in the same position?
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Busy day today!!!

A federal judge in Washington blocked the Trump administration Monday from enforcing parts of its transgender military ban.

She blocked provisions having to do with accession and retention directives — meaning directives concerning joining and retaining military personnel.

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Well, that's some good news at least!
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According to the caption above the photo that is very much not just a "voluntary advisory board"
According to the caption this is very much a non-official advisory board

This is not THE National Security Council https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...curity_Council but a shadow council during campaining for president. Look at the date of the photo, even the primaries were still ongoing for GOPs sake.
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According to the caption this is very much a non-official advisory board

This is not THE National Security Council https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...curity_Council but a shadow council during campaining for president. Look at the date of the photo, even the primaries were still ongoing for GOPs sake.
To quote Trump " Few people knew the young, low level volunteer named George, " - in this picture this supposedly low level guy was sitting at a table with Trump, Jeff Sessions and possibly even Manafort (hard for me to tell from the photo) discussing security; not usually a topic for low level people.

Indeed look at the date, just a couple of weeks after Papadopoulos met the Professor who claimed to have Russian contacts.

Incidentally Papadopoulos was informed about Russian hacking of Democrat emails months before anybody else knew. Maybe he forgot to tell Trump who claimed the hacking was by the Chinese or a 40 pound guy in bed.

Of course it is not the National Security Council but it was Trump's shadow council which is as official as it gets during a campaign?
How do you define what are "official" actions during a campaign; or do you reject Sander's comment that he did not do anything official because nothing was official during the campaign?
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