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Old 22.11.2016, 10:12
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Somewhat ad absurdum take on the situation. About 80,000 pages of regulations are filed every year. The bottom line is there is too much, and it needs to be reduced.
Perhaps it would be expedient if he just excommunicated all lawyers and politicians?

I agree, there is a huge overhead, and it seems that what is produced are predominantly loopholes.

Some religions manage to get by with a fairly lean regulatory structure (there is one which claims to have only 10 rules), but religion and politics are two different things. In a religion you can more or less presume that the believers are at least intending to follow the rules. Law is a different matter.
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Trump Tweet of the Day:

Many people would like to see @Nigel_Farage represent Great Britain as their Ambassador to the United States. He would do a great job!

Is this true?

Americans typically admire people who go against the grain and beat the odds. I admire Nigel. I think he understands the American ethos.
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Trump Tweet of the Day:

Many people would like to see @Nigel_Farage represent Great Britain as their Ambassador to the United States. He would do a great job!

Is this true?
I'd love it from a comedy point of view.

They are both narcissists, which would work out ok until one of them rubbed the other up the wrong way then the fallout would be huge.
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Perhaps it would be expedient if he just excommunicated all lawyers and politicians?

I agree, there is a huge overhead, and it seems that what is produced are predominantly loopholes.

Some religions manage to get by with a fairly lean regulatory structure (there is one which claims to have only 10 rules), but religion and politics are two different things. In a religion you can more or less presume that the believers are at least intending to follow the rules. Law is a different matter.
Many of those regulations are often tactical measures to meet a particular objective. Measures can be met, and objectives change. Hence there is a lot of movement of those regulations.

I think its generally good governance to minimise regulations, to allow better flow of activities, and only identify key metrics that need focus.

The US government needs to be streamlined, and its overhead reduced. More importantly, I would like to see performance measurements and better accountability.
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Old 22.11.2016, 10:28
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Trump Tweet of the Day:

Many people would like to see @Nigel_Farage represent Great Britain as their Ambassador to the United States. He would do a great job!

Is this true?
Also has a serious side too; how would Trump react if May started tweeting who he should appoint to his Cabinet?

Usually Presidents do not interfere in other countries diplomatic appointments.

Not sure anyway how good a job Nigel would do. Nigel claims to be on the side of UK fishermen but as an MEP he has only attended 2.4% of the key EU Fisheries committee meetings that he belongs to.
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Old 22.11.2016, 10:35
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Trump Tweet of the Day:

Many people would like to see @Nigel_Farage represent Great Britain as their Ambassador to the United States. He would do a great job!

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No. There would be a surge of justifiable outrage if that happened. More to the point, it wouldn't happen because Trump does not have the power to choose who represents the UK abroad.

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Trump Tweet of the Day:

Many people would like to see @Nigel_Farage represent Great Britain as their Ambassador to the United States. He would do a great job!

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It's true that DT tweeted it (like he has any say in the matter). His protocol for meeting with NF before reaching out to T. May speaks volumes about his general respect for doing things properly.

http://qz.com/836142/donald-trump-an...golden-doorway

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No-one in the UK seriously wants NF to be their spokesperson in the US. He's an appalling excuse for a human being.
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No. There would be a surge of justifiable outrage if that happened. Moe to the point, it wouldn't happen because Trump does not have the power to choose who represents the UK abroad.
He certainly could reject a UK ambassador to the US if he wanted to. Not that he will, but they would be well advised to take his tweet as some indication by the UK of the kind of ambassador they should send to the US.
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Old 22.11.2016, 10:51
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Trump Tweet of the Day:

Many people would like to see @Nigel_Farage represent Great Britain as their Ambassador to the United States. He would do a great job!

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I guess we can't judge until we've actually seen him try.

But I think right now Farage has a snowflake's chance in hell of being appointed, so the question remains hypothetical.

Junker might like that idea though. Anything that keeps Farage out of Brussels.
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It's true that DT tweeted it (like he has any say in the matter). His protocol for meeting with NF before reaching out to T. May speaks volumes about his general respect for doing things properly.

http://qz.com/836142/donald-trump-an...golden-doorway

(This photo makes me want to bring up my breakfast.)

No-one in the UK seriously wants NF to be their spokesperson in the US. He's an appalling excuse for a human being.
It's off the table now anyway as Downing Street has issued a response that there's no chance. Shame really; it would have been car crash telly just watching Farage slobbering all over Trump.
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No. There would be a surge of justifiable outrage if that happened. Moe to the point, it wouldn't happen because Trump does not have the power to choose who represents the UK abroad.
but he has the power to reject ambassadors, and he could hypothetically keep on rejecting them until he gets the one he wants.

Hypothetically mind you. In reality things aren't that simple.
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I guess we can't judge until we've actually seen him try.

But I think right now Farage has a snowflake's chance in hell of being appointed, so the question remains hypothetical.

Junker might like that idea though. Anything that keeps Farage out of Brussels.
Besides, Farage has more important things to do stirring up trouble for the EU in mainland Europe.
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It's off the table now anyway as Downing Street has issued a response that there's no chance. Shame really; it would have been car crash telly just watching Farage slobbering all over Trump.
But it also has a second meaning.

Trump and Farage haave both styled themselves as anti-establishment cxandidates, for the little people and against the government.

So Trump's suggestion could be interpreted to mean that whereas the official ambassador continiues to speak for the UK government, Farage gets to speak for the British people.
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But it also has a second meaning.

Trump and Farage haave both styled themselves as anti-establishment cxandidates, for the little people and against the government.

So Trump's suggestion could be interpreted to mean that whereas the official ambassador continiues to speak for the UK government, Farage gets to speak for the British people.

In other words, he's already a de facto ambassador.
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In other words, he's already a de facto ambassador.


Oops, I just lost my breakfast.
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In other words, he's already a de facto ambassador.
Is that a bit like the snowflake "everyone's a winner and nobody's wrong" approach to protecting his feelings?

Maybe they'll give him a badge.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Let's just recap, shall we?

Since 8/11, here's what we've seen:

- DT surrounds himself with family/cronies prior to nominations (some of these people have seriously dubious past behavior attributed to them).
- Ivanka tries to flog her 10k$ bracelet after being seen wearing it on Dad's election night.
- DT settles his court case over T. Uni to get that out of the way (still retaining a hefty profit from having swindled gullible 'students').
- In Washington, the Trump Hotel opens to diplomats wanting to get cushy with the new prez.
- DT gets into a new Tweet fight, this time with Alec Baldwin (whose impersonation got a bit too close to the truth).
- Ivanka sits in on Jap meeting (protocol not observed - security clearance not given)
- Trump hotel projects all over the world are delighting investors.
- DT starts offering suggestions for diplomatic nominations abroad (let's not forget that wifey n° 1 wants Prague please).

Looking good, hey Phos? Still think it's gonna be great?

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Let's just recap, shall we?
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Looking good, hey Phos? Still think it's gonna be great?
Oh yeah. None of that is anything to cry about.
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Oh yeah. None of that is anything to cry about.
But highly indicative of what's to come:

i.e. - nomination of some of the most hateful people in US politics
- non observance of protocol (and potentially risk to national security)
- personal enrichment for DT and his family
- worsening of relations between the US and the rest of the world

Oh, I forgot, frequent outbursts of improper behavior not fitting the President of the US
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