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Old 02.12.2017, 11:42
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Awww marton, Trump doing what he said he’d do and getting legislation through *so sad*
Nothing through yet
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Seems to be clear that the ex-General Flynn has done a deal with the FBI to cooperate with their Russian collusion investigation.

The FBI would only be interested to do this if Flynn can deliver somebody higher in the Trump food chain; now who could that be? There are very few people who fall into the definition of "higher in the Trump food chain".
I suppose this definition would include Cabinet members and members of Trump's family including Donald himself?

Waiting for next steps
Likely yet another Democrat such as Flynn himself.
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Old 02.12.2017, 12:07
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Trump and the GOP jammed their tax law through the Senate.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...blicans-274453

Some of the last changes were given to the Democrats only hours before the vote as handwritten scribbles in the margins of the 479 page bill. So much for the democratic process.

A disaster for the average American and 'Merica.

Example among many: No tax deduction for post-graduate students. That'll show them where being smart gets you. So a rapid fall in PhDs and post-docs. Great for innovation and science!

Bliss for the 1% and their buddies, e.g. their favorite college that got a specific tax exemption (late news: struck out at the last minute - amazing).
Most of those kids really ought to be going to trade schools instead of getting indoctrinations and fake educations anyway.

The beauty of this is that the Left lives and breathes tax dollars, which they then turn around and lord of the citizens of the country. This will deprive them of the resources they use to build their fiefdoms.

You know, if they were actually anywhere near honest and effective in their uses of public funding, and they don't use it to entrench their own power structures into society, most people would not mind paying more taxes for real value results. But as it is, its just hasn't been use that way in the US.

There is a good chance the economy will boom in the near future, and all those fake SJWs will be returning to the malls.
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Old 02.12.2017, 12:16
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Likely yet another Democrat such as Flynn himself.
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A disaster for the average American and 'Merica.

Example among many: No tax deduction for post-graduate students. That'll show them where being smart gets you. So a rapid fall in PhDs and post-docs. Great for innovation and science!
Frighteningly, this provision largely targets grad students in the STEM fields, the very fields that once upon a time actually did make America great.

For those who make light of this, here's an interesting article from Scientific American magazine, discussing the impact on a typical STEM grad student at some of our premier universities.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...ate-education/

Some key points from the article:

The situation today, quoting from the article:

"Even though many graduate students do not take classes or consume many educational resources, we still are charged a graduate school tuition fee. However, it is standard practice for the university to waive tuition in exchange for students agreeing to work as instructors or researchers for the school. This waiver is not considered a part of our paycheck, reflected in the IRS tax code Section 117(d)(5), stating that graduate students performing research or teaching are not taxed on tuition reductions. However, the House version of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act proposes to repeal this provision, making graduate students subject to taxation on these tuition fees."


And the potential effect if the House version of the tuition waiver tax is implemented, again quoting from the article:

"If the bill passes the Senate, the impact could be profound for many in higher education. For example, at U.C.L.A. the out-of-state graduate school tuition fee is $32,000 a year, while the typical graduate student salary, which can vary slightly with experience, hovers around $30,000 a year in STEM fields. Under the proposed tax plan, out-of-state graduate students making $30,000 a year could be subject to taxes on over $62,000 of income, which could push a portion of their income from the 12 percent tax bracket to the 25 percent tax bracket, even after the standard deduction. In effect, these students would see a tax increase of over $4,000 in federal taxes per year over what they currently pay."

What this boils down to is that graduate studies - the backbone of scientific research and innovation - could no longer be affordable for our best and brightest. And that would be a disaster for the future of America.

No, an apprenticeship is not a substitute for hard science research.

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Another article well worth reading, again from Scientific American, on the effect of this tax bill on healthcare:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...health-policy/

Among the provisions is the elimination of interest deductions for student loans. Guess who that impacts disproportionately? Young doctors. According to the article, nearly half of all doctors graduate from medical school with 200K in student loan debt.

At a time when we are crying out for more doctors, tossing up barriers to medical education is, IMO, unbelievably short sighted.

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The anti-science, anti-education contingent, a large part of the 'base', are being played for fools by the elite. The joke's on them, as the demonizing of education - traditionally the trigger of social and economic mobility - is what is going to keep their children mired in dead end jobs. Well, good luck to 'em when their vision of 'Merika comes to pass.
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Old 02.12.2017, 13:37
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The House is starting to work on a higher education act that builds in more accountability across the board. I'm sure in the crosshairs are colleges that practice the stifling of free speech and free thinking, the so called safe space bastions of radical leftists. It ought to help students learn how to think more fully for themselves.

This isn't Trump, its beyond Trump. Presidents do not write legislation. They can only suggest at most. Congress writes them, and the President only signs them.
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The House is starting to work on a higher education act that builds in more accountability across the board. I'm sure in the crosshairs are colleges that practice the stifling of free speech and free thinking, the so called safe space bastions of radical leftists. It ought to help VOTERS learn how to think more fully for themselves.

This isn't Trump, its beyond Trump. Presidents do not write legislation. They can only suggest at most. Congress writes them, and the President only signs them.
That would be a better idea :-)
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Old 02.12.2017, 21:04
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I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!
9:14 AM - 2 Dec 2017
Trump admitting he knew Flynn lied to the FBI at the time he told FBI head Comey that Flynn was a good guy and asked that Comey should go easy on him!
Is that attempted obstruction of justice? I do not know!
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It sounds Trump impeachment in USA!!
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Old 02.12.2017, 21:27
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Trump admitting he knew Flynn lied to the FBI at the time he told FBI head Comey that Flynn was a good guy and asked that Comey should go easy on him!
Is that attempted obstruction of justice? I do not know!
It's difficult to know what's going on in Trump's head, but I think he's trying to take credit in an "I told you so" kind of way and not realizing it might not be the best idea. When phrased your way, it sort of looks like an attempt at obstruction.

Trump fired Flynn (allegedly) for lying to Pence. Now that it's come out Flynn lied to the FBI too, Trump wants to take credit for firing Flynn when he did.

I'm wondering when Trump will pardon Flynn now...
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Old 02.12.2017, 21:48
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It's difficult to know what's going on in Trump's head, but I think he's trying to take credit in an "I told you so" kind of way and not realizing it might not be the best idea. When phrased your way, it sort of looks like an attempt at obstruction.

Trump fired Flynn (allegedly) for lying to Pence. Now that it's come out Flynn lied to the FBI too, Trump wants to take credit for firing Flynn when he did.

I'm wondering when Trump will pardon Flynn now...
I agree with your suggestion about Trump's thinking. A more cautious man would have his tweets checked by a lawyer prior to sending but that is not Trump's style

It is unlikely that Trump did know that Flynn lied to the FBI but now he has put it in writing in an official Presidential communication that he did know.......

If Trump does pardon Flynn now then it is a bit late as probably Mueller has already pumped Flynn dry and that toothpaste cannot be pushed back in the tube
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The House is starting to work on a higher education act that builds in more accountability across the board. I'm sure in the crosshairs are colleges that practice the stifling of free speech and free thinking, the so called safe space bastions of radical leftists. It ought to help students learn how to think more fully for themselves.

This isn't Trump, its beyond Trump. Presidents do not write legislation. They can only suggest at most. Congress writes them, and the President only signs them.
It looks like McCarthy(ism) is still well and alive....

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He's taken over the Republican party. Dismantled the Democrats. In the process of dismantling Obama's legacy, and finally rid the US of the Clintons. He just dismantled Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren, and her CFPB stronghold. Hollywood hipocrisy has been exposed, and leftist mainstream media is screaming and kicking on its way out. Reinstituted and restored constitutionality.
Thank goodness for this wave of sexual scandals in Hollywood, no need for other type of persecutions.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Section eight of the deal reached by Donald Trump’s former national security adviser in the inquiry into Russian meddling in the US election is entitled “cooperation”. It specifies that as well as answering questions and submitting to government-administered polygraph tests, Flynn’s cooperation “may include … participating in covert law enforcement activities”.

Long-time students of federal law enforcement practices agreed, speaking anonymously, that “covert law enforcement activities” likely refers to the possibility of wearing a concealed wire or recording telephone conversations with other potential suspects. It is not known whether Flynn has worn a wire at any time.

If the other subjects of investigation have had any conversations with Flynn during the last few months, that phrase must have all of them shaking in their boots,”

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Obama was no better than Trump from a moral standpoint. In some ways he was worse. Trump is just more openly revolting.
what absolute bollox - just provocation à la DB of course
no further comment.
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what absolute bollox - just provocation à la DB of course
no further comment.
Not everybody had their head in the sand for the last decade, Odile.

Wake up. Obama was a total shit just like all the presidents who came before him and the one who came after him.

Or perhaps you don't care about brown people being blown to pieces in the desert?
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Not everybody had their head in the sand for the last decade, Odile.

Wake up. Obama was a total shit just like all the presidents who came before him and the one who came after him.

Or perhaps you don't care about brown people being blown to pieces in the desert?
I think it is naive to think presidents have any real powers when it comes to wars. The military industrial complex has got a grip on those decisions like Vinnie Jones on Paul Gascoigne.

You could see how hard Obama fought to close Gitmo and pull troops out of some of the many lands they were engaged in, not an easy process at all.
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Not everybody had their head in the sand for the last decade, Odile.

Wake up. Obama was a total shit just like all the presidents who came before him and the one who came after him.

Or perhaps you don't care about brown people being blown to pieces in the desert?
It is quite a racist thing to claim all brown people live in the desert
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It is quite a racist thing to claim all brown people live in the desert
Yeah, well, people who live in the desert are brown .... it would take me two days at the most to be very, very brown
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Yeah, well, people who live in the desert are brown .... it would take me two days at the most to be very, very brown
Parnell would be fire engine red.
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Parnell would be fire engine red.
Well with my fine and sensitive baby white skin I would be at the fire engine red end of the scale.

Some years ago "her indoors" persuaded me to go to a skin specialist who found on my head and face a dozen of what he charmingly in his best bed side manner called "pre-cancers".

He burnt them off with liquid nitrogen or some such which left me looking like the worst type of Red Dwarf aliens! Anyway no re-occurrence!
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