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11.12.2017, 17:24
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | One more question: <<will call for Congress to investigate the allegations at a press conference>> can the Congress not be approached directly? Only via a press conference??
Wouldn't it be somehow more legitimate? | | | | | The first step in righting wrongdoing by a sitting president is a congressional investigation. If enough comes out of an investigation to believe the president is no longer fit for office, a committe of the House of Representatives drawing articles of impeachment, then bringing the articles to a vote by the full house. If the president is impeached by the house, the next step is a trial by the Senate - again, a vote.
As such, the process is entirely political.
Guess who controls the House and Senate? The Republicans, Trump's own party.
So unless Trump does something so mind-boggling egregious, something so bad that 'the base' pulls it's collective head out of the sand and starts demanding action from their congress critters to the point where those Worthy Gentlefolk start to fear for their next reelection bid... Or unless Trump does something to seriously p*ss off the Donor Class to the point where it collectively closes it's checkbook, sparking the same fear among the congress critters for their reelection campaigns...
As things stand today... Ain't nevva gonna happen.
The press conference is simply a way to try to bring attention to the issue, hoping maybe to reach those heads firmly stuck in the sand. An end run, so to speak, 'cause our craven congress critters aren't listening.
#politicaltheater(of the absurd)
ETA:
One reason that there isn't all that much energy (yet) behind an impeachment movement is the consequences of 'success'. Impeachment/trial/removal of Trump gives us Pence. Out of the frying pan into the fire.
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11.12.2017, 17:30
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | All of them? Or just the ones that get a bit of free time away from suffering under apartheid? | | | | | No, of course not.
But my argument still stands. Palestainans need smarter leaders and need to come away from the all or nothing mentality.
Get them started on a small subset of the territory. Let them rule it themselves. Let them show the world how succesful they are and what a wonderful place it becomes. The rest will follow.
Instead they are stuck in a rut of demanding things they know full well that Israel won't give them.
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11.12.2017, 17:40
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Get them started on a small subset of the territory. Let them rule it themselves. Let them show the world how succesful they are and what a wonderful place it becomes. The rest will follow. | | | | | That seems more than a touch condescending.
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11.12.2017, 17:49
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | One reason that there isn't all that much energy (yet) behind an impeachment movement is the consequences of 'success'. Impeachment/trial/removal of Trump gives us Pence. Out of the frying pan into the fire. | | | | | Indeed, one of Trumps master strokes was choosing Pence.
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11.12.2017, 19:18
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | All of them? Or just the ones that get a bit of free time away from suffering under apartheid?
The Palestinians have very little recourse here, they are outmanned, outgunned and very much outspent in every department, let's not pretend this is a fair fight in any way at all. It's akin to Vladimir Klitschko battering a local 13 year old every time he saw him. As always, suffering breeds hate and there are plenty of people keen to exploit this to further their own agenda, but chucking all Palestinians into the "terrorist" pot is very dangerous as it justifies Israel's actions.
Of course, when the Palestinians strike a lucky blow now and again, then that gives the Israeli establishment just that little bit more leeway to retaliate with excessive force. If Israel genuinely value peace, they will make a few concessions to bring it about - but as it stands, clearly keeping the fight going is more important than a peace effort (no doubt all the while getting prodded by the US Military Industrial Complex, if there's misery somewhere, there's a profit to be made).
A pretty horrble cycle of violence, but in all these things, it is the people with the upper hand who need to offer concessions as if you have nothing, you can't offer much. | | | | | The Palestinians don't have much, the odd 5 star hotel or so | This user would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
11.12.2017, 20:01
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | The Palestinians don't have much, the odd 5 star hotel or so  | | | | | The al-Mashtal is Gaza's first five-star hotel, providing vital jobs and training to the area. ... The al-Mashtal is Gaza's first and only five-star hotel, an ambitious project in a place where there are no tourists and around 70% of the population lives below the poverty line.
Seems a quality business plan!
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11.12.2017, 20:21
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Seems a quality business plan! | | | | | well it's since been joined by the Blue Beach Resort Gaza, so there was obviously a gap in the market. | 
11.12.2017, 20:35
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | well it's since been joined by the Blue Beach Resort Gaza, so there was obviously a gap in the market.  | | | | | Looks nice, 160 rooms and a private beach! | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | The al-Mashtal is Gaza's first five-star hotel, providing vital jobs and training to the area. ... The al-Mashtal is Gaza's first and only five-star hotel, an ambitious project in a place where there are no tourists and around 70% of the population lives below the poverty line.
Seems a quality business plan! | | | | | The 5 Best 5 Star Hotels in Gaza City of 2017 (with Prices) here | 
11.12.2017, 21:09
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | I don't know if Trump is this smart. But just maybe his strategy is to kill off the border dispute by creating facts that cannot be reversed, thus forcing the compromise to be built on other points where agreement is more possible. | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Indeed, one of Trumps master strokes was choosing Pence. 
Tom | | | | |
Trump is not an idiot. While his opposition plays to a politics of hurt feelings, he's delivering practical and measurable results. Retirement plans are up in double digit percentages since he took office, along with a bunch of other improvements not reported in the press. Come election time, real world results are hard to turn down in exchange for perceptions of hurt feelings.
Amogles is spot on. The Palestinians need true leadership that is concerned about lasting peace and prosperity for Palestinians, namely how they can benefit from the values Israel produces. At the moment, their politics are about their own power, at the cost of sacrificing Palestinian lives.
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11.12.2017, 21:29
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
Tuesday will be the Alabama Senate vote day where Trump and the GOP (mostly) are supporting an alleged child molester.
President Trump is "on trial" in Roy Moore's campaign for the U.S. Senate in Alabama, the Republican candidate's top political strategist, Dean Young, said Sunday.
Democrat Doug Jones has a 50 percent to 40 percent lead over Republican Roy Moore in a new Fox News poll released this morning.
Whereas two polls - the first by the Trafalgar Group and the second by Gravis - show Moore leading by as much as 5 points.
Alabama is a bright red state where Trump won by 28 points.
I believe Moore will win because too few GOP voters will be able to bring themselves to vote Dem, not enough GOP females will abstain from the vote to support their children and not enough people of colour are motivated to turn out for the Dems.
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11.12.2017, 21:45
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | The 5 Best 5 Star Hotels in Gaza City of 2017 (with Prices) here | | | | | So are we saying because somewhere has some nice hotels in some bits of it, everything is fine and dandy for the inhabitants? Pyongyang has a 6 star hotel!
Hell, Leeds even has a Waitrose!
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11.12.2017, 21:47
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
Economic growth due to tax reform alone won't cover full cost of GOP plan, US Treasury says.
Treasury assumes that corporate tax changes would spur half the economic expansion, while the other half would mostly come from yet-to-be determined proposals for overhauling the welfare system and improving infrastructure. Source
So in the end the poor will have to pay for the tax cuts?
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11.12.2017, 21:52
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | The 5 Best 5 Star Hotels in Gaza City of 2017 (with Prices) here | | | | | Apologies, I should have realised you were taking the mick  I didn't follow your link.
Booking.com lists 1 ***** in Gaza - 94chf a night, sounds a bargain | 
12.12.2017, 10:48
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | In a dispute between a stronger and a weaker partner, the weaker partner needs to be smarter. Today it seems to me the Israelis are both stronger and smarter. The Palestians need to elect a smarter leadership. | | | | | You're implying they can do something about it, I think that's not true. And as long as Israel has the US's uncritical backing that won't change, least of all after Trump's announcement.
International law says Israel has no say in East Jerusalem. Anything to the contrary is illegal, just like the settlements in the westbank. Neither Israel nor the US care about legality though, there are plenty of precedents. Saying on that base the current state is the Palestineans fault is quite cynical.
Trump's announcement made sure there will not be a 2-state solution. As a result there will probably be ever more Intifadas, looks like the third just started.
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12.12.2017, 11:18
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President?
At least there's some good news for space exploration: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ck-to-the-moon
However, time will tell if a bunch of words can be put into action.
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12.12.2017, 14:13
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Well there goes Trump tax cuts; the last estimate of costs for such space exploration was $500 per taxpayer
Meanwhile | Quote: |  | | | Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
Despite thousands of hours wasted and many millions of dollars spent, the Democrats have been unable to show any collusion with Russia - so now they are moving on to the false accusations and fabricated stories of women who I don’t know and/or have never met. FAKE NEWS! | | | | | Hard for him to prove he never knew or met them especially since several incidents were in Mar-a-Lago..
In a letter, 56 US lawmakers who are members of the Democratic Women's Working Group (DWWG) ask Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) and ranking member Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) to open an investigation into the matter after more than a dozen women have "publicly accused the President of sexual misconduct."
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12.12.2017, 16:34
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Well there goes Trump tax cuts; the last estimate of costs for such space exploration was $500 per taxpayer 
Meanwhile
Hard for him to prove he never knew or met them especially since several incidents were in Mar-a-Lago.. 
In a letter, 56 US lawmakers who are members of the Democratic Women's Working Group (DWWG) ask Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) and ranking member Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) to open an investigation into the matter after more than a dozen women have "publicly accused the President of sexual misconduct." | | | | | It gets better. After she asked him to resign over his sexual misconduct, Trump tweeted about Senator Gillibrand saying she was in his office "begging" for his contributions and "would have done anything" for them. Presidential.
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12.12.2017, 17:28
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Well there goes Trump tax cuts; the last estimate of costs for such space exploration was $500 per taxpayer 
| | | | | It never ceases to surprise me the misconception that space research costs too much.
Maybe this can give a better perspective: http://www.penny4nasa.org/
All in all the payback from space research is far greater then the investment. The Apollo program in the 60s put the world technology wise more the 20 years ahead of its time.
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12.12.2017, 18:15
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | It never ceases to surprise me the misconception that space research costs too much.
Maybe this can give a better perspective: http://www.penny4nasa.org/
All in all the payback from space research is far greater then the investment. The Apollo program in the 60s put the world technology wise more the 20 years ahead of its time. | | | | | According to the link you posted, in the peak years of the moon missions NASA took around 5% of the Federal Budget.
Assuming Federal Budget in 2018 is similar to 2017 @ $3.6 Trillion then Trump's plan could cost $180 Billion per year versus as an example the cost of tax reform @ $150 Billion
I did not write space research costs too much, simply that space research costs a lot and Trump must find the funding; it will not drop out of the sky on its own |
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