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Old 13.12.2017, 10:43
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Senator Warren should really think before she speaks/tweets...

"Are you really trying to bully, intimidate and slut-shame @SenGillibrand? Do you know who you're picking a fight with? Good luck with that, @realDonaldTrump."
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Old 13.12.2017, 10:48
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You're implying they can do something about it, I think that's not true. And as long as Israel has the US's uncritical backing that won't change, least of all after Trump's announcement.

International law says Israel has no say in East Jerusalem. Anything to the contrary is illegal, just like the settlements in the westbank. Neither Israel nor the US care about legality though, there are plenty of precedents. Saying on that base the current state is the Palestineans fault is quite cynical.

Trump's announcement made sure there will not be a 2-state solution. As a result there will probably be ever more Intifadas, looks like the third just started.
I disagree.

Israel does want a two-state solution, if only for reasons of demographics.

The question is more on of modalities and where the border should be. This is a debate that leads to deadlock as the Isareli and Palestian positions are unreconcilable.

If only the focus of the debate could be moved away from the border and towards say, questions of trade and economic cooperation, things would look much better. Both sides benefit from the workforce that crosses the border every day to work on Israeli farms for example. And this could be developed much further. Israeli companies could build factories in Palestine. Palestinian companies could also beneft from collaborations with their Israeli counterparts. Universities could collaborate. Research. Education. Healthcare. The sky is the limit.

There are plenty of other cases of disputed borders in the world and even in Europe (think Gibraltar) where both sides side-step that question and say, we won't forget this problem entirely and we'll maybe fix it some other day, but for now we'll talk about things that we can agree on.

But as a first step, the Palestinain leadership could say, you know what, we'll stop hollering and bickering about Jerusalem. That's not the same as giving it away or dropping our claim entirely, but you know, there are more important things. So let's talk about that now.

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Old 13.12.2017, 10:48
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Not feeling quite so cocky and self-assured this morning, Phos?

"He did it too!"
Meh, the Democrats still don't have a platform, nor a playbook they learned from this, unless they want to conjure up hundreds of sexual allegations for 2018.

The big losers here are Bannon and Trump, who both went all-in.

But kudos to all the warm hearted people of Alabama who made a decision:
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Old 13.12.2017, 10:51
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Victim alleged sexual predator from 40 years ago. The Democratic party is full of them.
FTFY

AFAIK, the only serving Democrat to have such allegations against him is Al Franken, who subsequently stepped down.
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Old 13.12.2017, 10:56
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FTFY

AFAIK, the only serving Democrat to have such allegations against him is Al Franken, who subsequently stepped down.
The have Conyers and Bill Clinton to reckon with, along with a slew of donors from Hollywood. A long history of Ted Kennedy, who appears to have killed someone, and others in the past who they perfectly tolerated, as long as they are Democrats.

Funny, "moralism" is a newly found value for the Democrats, after decades of fighting Republicans on issues of moralism. Works for the myopic and easily persuaded, but not so for those with longer memories.
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Old 13.12.2017, 10:59
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"Roy Moore would have been to Washington what Farage is like to Brussels." You mean he would rarely come to work and not attend meetings of the committees he belongs to?

Ukip (Farage's party)MEPs attend the fewest European Parliament votes of any party in the EU's 28 countries
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Over the three years that Nigel Farage was a member of the European Parliament Fisheries Committee, he attended one out of 42 meetings. Greenpeace research shows that during the three major votes to fix the flaws of the Common Fisheries Policy (CFP), Nigel Farage was in the building but failed to vote in favour of improving the legislation.
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He ran on an election ticket of taking Britain out of the EU.

It seems he succeeded.

Is there any way his active participation in these boards and comissions would have expedited the process? If not, why criticize?
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Old 13.12.2017, 11:00
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Media alleged sexual predator from 40 years ago. The Democratic party is full of them.
Not media alleged; it was the victims who alleged.....

Making allegations against the Democratic party without any evidence is a fine tribute to Trump's methods.

How would you like it if we made such false claims about you?
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Old 13.12.2017, 11:09
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Not media alleged; it was the victims who alleged.....

Making allegations against the Democratic party without any evidence is a fine tribute to Trump's methods.

How would you like it if we made such false claims about you?

It is stupid politics that has nothing to do with real problems and issues. Appeals to people who lack a good soap opera TV show.
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Old 13.12.2017, 11:39
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FTFY

AFAIK, the only serving Democrat to have such allegations against him is Al Franken, who subsequently stepped down.
37 and counting. I think that is just the tip of the iceberg.
https://www.ranker.com/list/democrat...ls/web-infoguy

I would love to see ALL professional politicians wiped off of Washington DC, left and right, and replaced by real everyday Americans dealing with issues that affect real everyday people; doctors, lawyers, bakers, plumbers, etc. It is suppose to be a representative democracy, not a damned plutocracy.
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When ..........

ALABAMA


votes Democrat - you know something is seriously amiss.

Won't be long now.

https://youtu.be/P215CuZ8j5o Sweet Home Alabama

or if you prefer the original

https://youtu.be/DA0z9EcefOU (shame about that flag ... but it was in 1974 ...)

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Old 13.12.2017, 11:50
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37 and counting. I think that is just the tip of the iceberg.
https://www.ranker.com/list/democrat...ls/web-infoguy

I would love to see ALL professional politicians wiped off of Washington DC, left and right, and replaced by real everyday Americans dealing with issues that affect real everyday people; doctors, lawyers, bakers, plumbers, etc. It is suppose to be a representative democracy, not a damned plutocracy.
Have you never read animal farm?
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Old 13.12.2017, 12:14
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When ..........

ALABAMA


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how very true ....

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Old 13.12.2017, 12:19
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how very true ....
buahahaha

Resume Planned Parenthood's eugenics program!!!
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When ..........

ALABAMA


votes Democrat - you know something is seriously amiss.

Won't be long now.
Perhaps future generations will see Trump as an agent of change?
(Or a paradigm of the law of unintended consequences.)
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I would love to see ALL professional politicians wiped off of Washington DC, left and right, and replaced by real everyday Americans dealing with issues that affect real everyday people; doctors, lawyers, bakers, plumbers, etc. It is suppose to be a representative democracy, not a damned plutocracy.
Completely agree. However, we need campaign finance reform, lobby reform and the overturn of Citizens United.
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Old 13.12.2017, 12:25
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Completely agree. However, we need campaign finance reform, lobby reform and the overturn of Citizens United.
We need have a serious news media that doesn't distract people with stupid shiny objects.

The culture war will likely heat up, as the Republicans overturn the Johnson amendment. To date, non-profits are able to advocate politics, except for churches. Overturning it will unleash advocacy from religious organization.

Identity politics is killing serious discourse about finding real solutions for real problems. But it appears they want to stay in la la land instead of focusing on realities.
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Old 13.12.2017, 12:39
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We need have a serious news media that doesn't distract people with stupid shiny objects.
The media only say what their audience wants to hear. Thus the media don't like to challenge the core beleifs of their client base. People need to learn to think critically. But I don't see how that's going to happen or where it's going to come from.

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The culture war will likely heat up, as the Republicans overturn the Johnson amendment. To date, non-profits are able to advocate politics, except for churches. Overturning it will unleash advocacy from religious organization.
I think the Johnson amndment needs to go, because it is an unfair discrimnation. But I don't think removing it will make a huge difference overall. There are already plenty of ways to work around it. Removing it is more a question of honesty than of cultural change.

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Identity politics is killing serious discourse about finding real solutions for real problems. But it appears they want to stay in la la land instead of focusing on realities.
True
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We need have a serious news media that doesn't distract people with stupid shiny objects.

The culture war will likely heat up, as the Republicans overturn the Johnson amendment. To date, non-profits are able to advocate politics, except for churches. Overturning it will unleash advocacy from religious organization.

Identity politics is killing serious discourse about finding real solutions for real problems. But it appears they want to stay in la la land instead of focusing on realities.
But most non-profits don't have their basis in fairy tales.
Anyway, when you look at some of the extravagances of some of the more vocal tele-evangelists, it's hard to see how they are non-profit.

Should churches, mosques, and synagogues etc be taxed too?
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Israel does want a two-state solution, if only for reasons of demographics.
Israel wants one designed according to its wishes. That's not Palestinean sovereignty. Alternatively something similar to the status quo, a Palestine run under its supervision and authority.
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But as a first step, the Palestinain leadership could say, you know what, we'll stop hollering and bickering about Jerusalem.
Absolutely not. As a first step Isral is to give back the land it stole.

You're ridiculous.
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Old 13.12.2017, 13:33
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Israel wants one designed according to its wishes. That's not Palestinean sovereignty. Alternatively something similar to the status quo, a Palestine run under its supervision and authority.

Absolutely not. As a first step Isral is to give back the land it stole.

You're ridiculous.
Seeing non-ridiculous ideas such as holding the well being of an entire nation to ransom over a question of pride haven't managed to bring peace, maybe it's time to give more ridiculous ideas a chance - such as fostering trade and creating jobs?
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