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Old 13.12.2017, 14:37
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But most non-profits don't have their basis in fairy tales.
Anyway, when you look at some of the extravagances of some of the more vocal tele-evangelists, it's hard to see how they are non-profit.

Should churches, mosques, and synagogues etc be taxed too?
If you look at the CEOs of orgs like Amnesty Interantional, they certainly seem to be cutting out a pleasant piece for themselves too.

So why not a level playing field for all?

Tax them all or tax nobody.
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Old 13.12.2017, 14:38
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But most non-profits don't have their basis in fairy tales.
Anyway, when you look at some of the extravagances of some of the more vocal tele-evangelists, it's hard to see how they are non-profit.

Should churches, mosques, and synagogues etc be taxed too?
Its about non-profits endorsing political parties and candidates. So Planned Parenthood can then tell all their customers to vote Democrat, while those televangelists will be using their platforms to tell them to vote Republican. So a lot of dark political money will be spread to dark places. Great opportunity for Soros as well, if he still has any money left. I suspect it will likely pour gasoline on the culture war, but could be wrong. We'll see.

By the way, you should see some of the homes of those who sit on non-profits.
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Old 13.12.2017, 15:01
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By the way, you should see some of the homes of those who sit on non-profits.
Because they stole money from it, or because they were wealthy people looking to give something back. Oh, you mean they are all crooks, gotcha. Have you seen the head of the Gates foundation? His house is amazing.
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Its about non-profits endorsing political parties and candidates. So Planned Parenthood can then tell all their customers to vote Democrat, while those televangelists will be using their platforms to tell them to vote Republican. So a lot of dark political money will be spread to dark places. Great opportunity for Soros as well, if he still has any money left. I suspect it will likely pour gasoline on the culture war, but could be wrong. We'll see.

By the way, you should see some of the homes of those who sit on non-profits.
You're seriously comparing a medicine- and science-based organisation such as Planned Parenthood to a Religious institution? You really are scraping the barrel today.
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Old 13.12.2017, 15:03
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Because they stole money from it, or because they were wealthy people looking to give something back. Oh, you mean they are all crooks, gotcha. Have you seen the head of the Gates foundation? His house is amazing.
The only difference between a 501c and a regular corporation is the use of their funds at the end of the year, whether or not it is diverted back towards their mission statement, or paid out to shareholders. In other words, non-profits are quite profittable for those who work in them.
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Seeing non-ridiculous ideas such as holding the well being of an entire nation to ransom over a question of pride haven't managed to bring peace, maybe it's time to give more ridiculous ideas a chance - such as fostering trade and creating jobs?
Tell Israel to undo the injustices and there will be. It's quite easy once you accept Israel's responsibility.
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Old 13.12.2017, 15:16
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It is stupid politics that has nothing to do with real problems and issues. Appeals to people who lack a good soap opera TV show.
Blaming the sex allegations is an easy out for Republicans but that alone would not given Jones the win; there were other factors, especially his treatment of minorities.
For facts, look at the exit polls.
Fewer than half of voters, 41 percent, said the allegations against Moore were at least one of several important factors in their vote. Of the rest, 19 percent called the controversy a minor factor and 35 percent said it was not a factor at all.
Two thirds of white women voted for Moore; does not look like a strong anti child molester vote.
Whereas 98% of black women voted for Jones and 93% of black men.
Also there was a huge voter turn out, almost double the 20% expected.
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Old 13.12.2017, 15:19
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Tell Israel to undo the injustices and there will be. It's quite easy once you accept Israel's responsibility.
Have you considered that it is this sort of attitude that leads to escalation in the first place?

We won't start negotiating before the other side has corrected all their past injustices.

If you want to move on, you need leadership with more vision than that.
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Old 13.12.2017, 15:19
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Blaming the sex allegations is an easy out for Republicans but that alone would not given Jones the win; there were other factors, especially his treatment of minorities.
For facts, look at the exit polls.
Fewer than half of voters, 41 percent, said the allegations against Moore were at least one of several important factors in their vote. Of the rest, 19 percent called the controversy a minor factor and 35 percent said it was not a factor at all.
Two thirds of white women voted for Moore; does not look like a strong anti child molester vote.
Whereas 98% of black women voted for Jones and 93% of black men.
Also there was a huge voter turn out, almost double the 20% expected.
Don't forget that many in the Republican party actually campaigned against Roy Moore, and many of them are relieved he didn't win. It would have been an pyrrhic victory.

But it is true this is a lost for Trump, as he bet on Moore. After the tax cut, if it passes, Trump's greatest usefulness to GOP donors would have been cashed out. We may see a kind of implosion on the Republican side, and find Trump tweeting more agains the Republicans. Which could be just as entertaining as ever.
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Old 13.12.2017, 15:25
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You're seriously comparing a medicine- and science-based organisation such as Planned Parenthood to a Religious institution? You really are scraping the barrel today.
So are you proposing that having a basis in science should be the criterium for tax exemption?
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Have you considered that it is this sort of attitude that leads to escalation in the first place?

We won't start negotiating before the other side has corrected all their past injustices.

If you want to move on, you need leadership with more vision than that.
Isn't that akin to saying a rape victim is demonstrating bad leadership by not talking to the guy who raped her?
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Old 13.12.2017, 15:28
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So are you proposing that having a basis in science should be the criterium for tax exemption?
Well it's a better argument than "God".
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Isn't that akin to saying a rape victim is demonstrating bad leadership by not talking to the guy who raped her?
The problem is it makes no sense propping up an entity that has vowed to kill you and your people.
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So are you proposing that having a basis in science should be the criterium for tax exemption?
I'm not sure what a bike race has to do with this.
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The problem is it makes no sense propping up an entity that has vowed to kill you and your people.
But yet black people still have to live with Trump's support for the KKK, it's a tough life, right enough.
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Two thirds of white women voted for Moore; does not look like a strong anti child molester vote.
Whereas 98% of black women voted for Jones and 93% of black men.
Also there was a huge voter turn out, almost double the 20% expected.
Cold hard facts won, and there's no disputing that Jones convicted Klansmen.
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But yet black people still have to live with Trump's support for the KKK, it's a tough life, right enough.
Who needs the KKK when you can have Planned Parenthood scientifically killing off black babies, right?
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Well it's a better argument than "God".
The argument for churches to have tax emeption while still expressing their views is not called "God" but is called "freedom of belief, association and of expression".
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Who needs the KKK when you can have Planned Parenthood scientifically killing off black babies, right?
You are struggling today aren't you? Abortion services account for less than 3% of Planned Parenthood activities, way less than cancer screening and prevention, STD prevention, and contraception.
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