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Umm, leeches work.

Meanwhile, another term that should be banned is "assigned gender".

Unless one is not XX or XY (0.06% of the population), nobody is assigned a gender, they have a biological gender.

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So we should ban a term that by your own admission accurately describes some half a million people around the world?

And gender =/= sex.
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Umm, leeches work.

Meanwhile, another term that should be banned is "assigned gender".

Unless one is not XX or XY (0.06% of the population), nobody is assigned a gender, they have a biological gender.

Tom
Difficult to see how Centers for Disease Control and Prevention can do their job properly when banned from using the words “science-based” or “evidence-based.”

I suppose when can look forward to future reports like "There are rumours of a local outbreak of disease that the community wishes to be known as influenza"?
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Old 16.12.2017, 12:47
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So we should ban a term that by your own admission accurately describes some half a million people around the world?
I said 'unless', so no.

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gender =/= sex.
Sometimes.

Physical gender = sex.

Mental gender = whatever.

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I said 'unless', so no.

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Well then you don't want the word to be "banned" you want it more narrowly defined. Glad I could clear that up for you.

And how often is "assigned gender" really used outside of the definition you're ok with? Seems like a "war on Christmas!" style boogieman. I've run around in liberal circles all my life and never heard anyone used the word "assigned gender" as a broad term.

"Susan had a baby!"
"Oh great! What assigned gender is it?"
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Physical gender = sex.

Mental gender = whatever.

Tom
As previously stated, I think you are misunderstanding gender. You can't have a physical gender as it is purely a social construct. At a push, you'd have more luck pinning a definition to mental gender, but even that doesn't really make sense.
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Loz1983, using your analogy: like the towers that you say represented the rigidly fixed gender options of male or female, our present day society has moved away from the gender binary in favor of understanding gender as a fluid concept.
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Like the towers that you say represented the rigidly fixed gender options of male or female, our present day society has moved away from the gender binary in favor of understanding gender as a fluid concept.
"Our present day society", nah, just a few attention seekers. Most of present day society really doesn't care.
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Old 16.12.2017, 13:31
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If you ever learned German language you would see it has three genders
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Old 16.12.2017, 13:34
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As previously stated, I think you are misunderstanding gender. You can't have a physical gender as it is purely a social construct. At a push, you'd have more luck pinning a definition to mental gender, but even that doesn't really make sense.
Somebody who believes the words “science-based” or “evidence-based" should be banned will never be convinced by you throwing facts before them

Best to leave them to live with their misconceptions
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"Our present day society", nah, just a few attention seekers. Most of present day society really doesn't care.
Yep, the, ones that do care are trying to ban terminology relating to gender identity.

I truly don't give a shit what anyone identifies as. Man, woman, intersex, queer, racoon, I don't care. To each his/her/their own, it doesn't affect my life in the slightest.
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Yep, the, ones that do care are trying to ban terminology relating to gender identity.

I truly don't give a shit what anyone identifies as. Man, woman, intersex, queer, racoon, I don't care. To each his/her/their own, it doesn't affect my life in the slightest.
What about the male weightlifter who decided he was going to be a lady and then went and cleaned up in the women's competition, breaking a world record!

PC gone mad!
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There was one gender in 1950?

Other cultures saw it differently with specific gender roles that can be considered distinct from male and female, such as the hijra (chhaka) of India and Pakistan.
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"Our present day society", nah, just a few attention seekers. Most of present day society really doesn't care.
But you do
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What about the male weightlifter who decided he was going to be a lady and then went and cleaned up in the women's competition, breaking a world record!

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If you want to dress up as the opposite sex, or go to bed with both men and women I really don't care. What I do care about is when people demand others adjust their behaviour to fit in with their deviancy.
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If you want to dress up as the opposite sex, or go to bed with both men and women I really don't care. What I do care about is when people demand others adjust their behaviour to fit in with their deviancy.
And how often does that really happen to you?
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And how often does that really happen to you?
Erm, never. Which takes us back to my original remark.

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What about the male weightlifter who decided he was going to be a lady and then went and cleaned up in the women's competition, breaking a world record!

PC gone mad!
That's dope, man.
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