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Explain this then
It's google translate. That's the issue.
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Old 17.12.2017, 18:01
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Turkey will open embassy in east Jerusalem: Erdoğan

Good news, now the US embassy will have someone to talk to......

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It's google translate. That's the issue.
The same Google translate that threw up this gem of a translation from the Tierschutz website this week... I want that dog!!!
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If you ever learned German language you would see it has three genders Genera (singular: Genus)
FTFY

There's no equivalent in English thus it can't be translated.

If you think Genus is equivalent to sex:
What's the reproductive organ of a Stein? How/where do male and female Steine differ? If you think the sex of Stein/stone is male like its Genus, where is the equvalent of its penis and what does it look like? (otherwise where is its equivalent of a vulva?)

If you think Genus is equivalent to gender:
Where does this particular Stein position itself on the gender slide?

Btw the right part of your picture in Post #10339 translates differently if it's assumed to originally be Swiss German: She brought her toy railroad forth by puking, she produced it by puking.
Just saying

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It's google translate. That's the issue.
Google translate can be a wonderful tool if one already has some knowledge of a language - at least about the syntax. I have to admit though that it gets better and better. It cannot replace learning a language....unfortunately. Btw, in German, grammatical gender doesn't always match biological gender. One perfect example being "das Mädchen"..

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FTFY

There's no equivalent in English thus it can't be translated.

If you think Genus is equivalent to sex:
What's the reproductive organ of a Stein? How/where do male and female Steine differ? If you think the sex of Stein/stone is male like its Genus, where is the equvalent of its penis and what does it look like? (otherwise where is its equivalent of a vulva?)

If you think Genus is equivalent to gender:
Where does this particular Stein position itself on the gender slide?

Btw the right part of your picture in Post #10339 translates differently if it's assumed to originally be Swiss German: She brought her toy railroad forth by puking, she produced it by puking.
Just saying
That was my poor attempt at humour

Since the 1960s, it is increasingly common—particularly in academic contexts—to distinguish between sex and gender, the former being taken as inherent biological distinctions and the latter as constructed social and cultural ones.
Clearly there are some people here who are still living in flower power times
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I think here is the proof of how people in powerful positions are selected by President Trump...

Anyone think this guy was selected on merit?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-hearing-video

I truly hope the video is not a shock to those brave enough to watch it.

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Old 18.12.2017, 11:53
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Other languages have their problems too.

Translation of Trump's favourite christmas carol ..


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Au contraire, you explain this Attachment 131186
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Das grammatische Geschlecht von Mädchen ist sächlich. Deshalb heißt es beispielsweise in Relativsätzen: Das Mädchen, das … Obwohl das Wort eine weibliche Person bezeichnet, ist das grammatische Geschlecht ausschlaggebend und das bezugnehmende Pronomen muss ebenfalls sächlich (Neutrum) sein: Das Mädchen hat seine Eisenbahn kaputtgemacht.[1]

Sorry for the German
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"Mädchen“ is neuter because it is diminutive, with the ending "...chen" (same goes for words ending in "...lein", or "...li" in Swiss German). As always, the gender and case of adjectives and pronouns have to agree with the noun. "Mädchen" is neuter, so "her (as we say in English) train set" is "seine Eisenbahn". "Seine" is the accusative, feminine form of "sein", the neutral third person singular pronoun that agrees with "Mädchen".

In other words, "seine" is the neutral pronoun, selected to represent "Mädchen", and is expressed here in its accusative, singular form to agree with "Eisenbahn". If the girl had been playing with her train set, it would have been "mit seiner Eisenbahn". This is an obvious case of gender =/= sex.

Of course, the sentence could also mean "the girl broke his train set", but as there is no male person mentioned, the natural assumption would be that we're talking about her toy.

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Das Mädchen hat ihre Eisenbahn kaputtgemacht. (It belonged to her)
Das Mädchen hat seine Eisenbahn kaputtgemacht. (It belonged to her brother maybe).
Nope.

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Old 19.12.2017, 08:42
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It's google translate. That's the issue.
For once, Google Translate got it right*, while the usually far superior DeepL gets it wrong!


*But not in marton's case, unless Google Translate thought that the "her" referred to the girl's sister.
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Old 19.12.2017, 09:17
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Other languages have their problems too.

Translation of Trump's favourite christmas carol ..


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Maybe Tronald Dump is Hungarian and uses Google Translate for his Tweets? It would explain a lot #Threadbackontrack.
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"Mädchen“ is neuter because it is diminutive, with the ending "...chen" (same goes for words ending in "...lein", or "...li" in Swiss German). As always, the gender and case of adjectives and pronouns have to agree with the noun. "Mädchen" is neuter, so "her (as we say in English) train set" is "seine Eisenbahn". "Seine" Is the accusative, feminine form of "sein", the neutral third person singular pronoun that agrees with "Mädchen".

In other words, "seine" is the neutral pronoun, selected to represent "Mädchen", and is expressed here in its accusative, singular form to agree with "Eisenbahn". If the girl had been playing with her train set, it would have been "mit seiner Eisenbahn". This is an obvious case of gender =/= sex.
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This is a classic dilemma in regards with German grammar. Use logics or strictly follow the rules?
"Das Mädchen ist ärgerlich, weil ihm die neuen Schuhe nicht passen". Die schreckliche deutsche Sprache...
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FTFY

There's no equivalent in English thus it can't be translated.

If you think Genus is equivalent to sex:
What's the reproductive organ of a Stein? How/where do male and female Steine differ? If you think the sex of Stein/stone is male like its Genus, where is the equvalent of its penis and what does it look like? (otherwise where is its equivalent of a vulva?)

If you think Genus is equivalent to gender:
Where does this particular Stein position itself on the gender slide?

Btw the right part of your picture in Post #10339 translates differently if it's assumed to originally be Swiss German: She brought her toy railroad forth by puking, she produced it by puking.
Just saying
What?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

And now for something different: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...06A0&FORM=VIRE
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What?
Few people speak the 192nd language of Switzerland, otherwise known as Ursinese. In fact, I think more people in the world today understand ancient Aramaic.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Dad hit a solid with his National Security Strategy, I mean Trump. It is quite clear where he and the US stands, and where it is going. Makes it clear for everyone else where they are in relation to it. It should also send a clear message of support to Eastern Europe, as well as notice to the EU.

I also love how Nikki Haley showed up the hipocrisy of all the other 14 countries in the UN Security Council. Totally love how that Indian-American woman put every one in the UNSC in their place.

So glad Hillary lost. The world would have been in a duplicitous mess under her. The US is back on track with Trump.

If only the UK had more balls, eh?
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Okay, I will try to take a break and come back at some future point.
So, that break you said you were taking a few days ago - more Fake News.
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So, that break you said you were taking a few days ago - more Fake News.
I did. NSS was real news. I'll be back when they pass tax reform.
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