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Old 21.12.2017, 13:15
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The US sent out about $50 billion in foreign aid last year alone. Hell, we can build 2 or 3 walls for that.
Actually $27 billion. Military and political aid to prop up its various and mostly rather unpleasant client states don't count as aid by any reasonable definition.

So only an 85% overstatement - pretty accurate by your standards.
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Old 21.12.2017, 13:16
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Yet again, you didn't read your own link. This is about the US subsidising US companies.
This here...

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Don't you just hate it when those foreign snowflake companies complain about unfair government practices in other countries?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ing-complaint/

Oh.

...is about Canada subsidizing Bombadier.
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Old 21.12.2017, 13:18
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...is about Canada subsidizing Bombadier.
Ah - you mean you get it now? Or do you think...:

Canada subsidising Bombadier = bad. But
US subsidising US companies = good?

Because that is what we are talking about.

Oh and BTW, the US massively subsidises Boeing.
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Old 21.12.2017, 13:19
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Actually $27 billion. Military and political aid to prop up its various and mostly rather unpleasant client states don't count as aid by any reasonable definition.

So only an 85% overstatement - pretty accurate by your standards.
Yeah, it includes military support for "unpleasant" client states that make up the bulk of civilized countries of the world.
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Old 21.12.2017, 13:22
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Yeah, it includes military support for "unpleasant" client states that make up the bulk of civilized countries of the world.
So you've never actually read the list then? I just did and there's very few on there that would fit with your statement.
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Old 21.12.2017, 13:22
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Ah - you mean you get it now? Or do you think...:

Canada subsidising Bombadier = bad. But
US subsidising US companies = good?

Because that is what we are talking about.

Oh and BTW, the US massively subsidises Boeing.

US Tax Reform has nothing to do with unfair subsidization whatsoever.
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Old 21.12.2017, 13:29
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US Tax Reform has nothing to do with unfair subsidization whatsoever.
Still not reading your own link then. OK, let's make it easy for you. The EU potential complaints include:

A new "excise tax" of 20 percent, levied on payments made when an American company buys goods or services from a foreign subsidiary or "affiliate" — unless the subsidiary elects to treat the payments as income in the US....this measure would break WTO rules because it levies a tax only on foreign goods and services, not on the equivalent domestically produced goods and services.

Lower taxes on income from intangibles - a preferential tax regime for "foreign-derived intangible income. In essence, when US companies earn income outside the US via licensing fees, those fees would be taxed at a reduced corporate tax rate of 12.5 percent. This would subsidise exports compared with domestic consumption.

"Base Erosion" protection - in itself not bad but as proposed would have the potential of being extremely harmful for the international banking and insurance business, as cross-border intra-group financial transactions would be treated as non-deductible and subject to a 10 percent tax
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Old 21.12.2017, 13:44
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Can you stop using facts and making sense please Baboon, it's confusing half the room.
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Old 21.12.2017, 13:48
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Still not reading your own link then. OK, let's make it easy for you. The EU potential complaints include:
Let me make it easier for you. Lots of EU countries have been doing the same, and so the EU complaint is irrelevant and won't have any impact on US sovereign taxation policies.

It is great to hear about the complaint though, as it confirms the intended purpose of the tax reform has been acknowledged and recognized by US competitors.
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Old 21.12.2017, 14:39
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Let me make it easier for you. Lots of EU countries have been doing the same, and so the EU complaint is irrelevant and won't have any impact on US sovereign taxation policies.

It is great to hear about the complaint though, as it confirms the intended purpose of the tax reform has been acknowledged and recognized by US competitors.
Really, so why are the US not complaining to the WTO? Possibly because lots of EU countries have not been doing the same?
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Old 21.12.2017, 15:07
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Really, so why are the US not complaining to the WTO? Possibly because lots of EU countries have not been doing the same?
Again, would you stop with the facts. Jesus.
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Really, so why are the US not complaining to the WTO? Possibly because lots of EU countries have not been doing the same?
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Again, would you stop with the facts. Jesus.
That's right. Let's forget about Ireland for a moment.

Anyway, this is a nut the US has been trying to crack for decades, but it has lacked resolve and leadership. This would not have happened without Trump's leadership. I think many can readily admit that Trump is an awful politician, maybe even the worse ever. But he is a very effective leader nevertheless, and may be one of the best US Presidents we've had in a very long time.

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Old 21.12.2017, 18:40
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Trump suggests US will cut off aid for countries that vote for UN resolution
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Yeah, go for it!
UN resolution result = 128 members voted in favour of the resolution with only nine against.

Trump's rhetoric was ignored as usual.
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UN resolution result = 128 members voted in favour of the resolution with only nine against.

Trump's rhetoric was ignored as usual.
Your name will go on the list! What is it?

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Old 21.12.2017, 19:01
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Ka-ching! The US really needs better value propositions before sending out money.
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''We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism''

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UN resolution result = 128 members voted in favour of the resolution with only nine against.

Trump's rhetoric was ignored as usual.
Hope he's got a big book for all those names he's taking, this winning he's doing is embarrassing. The US is being taken as seriously as comical Ali
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That's right. Let's forget about Ireland for a moment.

Anyway, this is a nut the US has been trying to crack for decades, but it has lacked resolve and leadership. This would not have happened without Trump's leadership. I think many can readily admit that Trump is an awful politician, maybe even the worse ever. But he is a very effective leader nevertheless, and may be one of the best US Presidents we've had in a very long time.
What has Ireland to do with this discussion?
Are you having a senior moment?

Edit; are you talking about Trump's loss making golf club?
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UN resolution result = 128 members voted in favour of the resolution with only nine against.

Trump's rhetoric was ignored as usual.
Not quite that emphatic.

"The non-binding resolution was approved by 128 states, with 35 abstaining and nine others voting against."

"There were 21 countries who did not turn up for the vote."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42446027

So a third (65) of the 193 members either abstained, voted against or didn't turn up.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Good timing for the UN to go on a diet anyway.

Less partying and more facing up to realities.

US can build some nice airports with that money.
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