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...A sitting president can't be charged with a crime, he can only be impeached by Congress...
Maybe, maybe not. It hasn't been done before but the Constitution doesn't explicitly say that. This article goes into the details, and it would appear impeachment and removal from office would have to happen first, before any criminal charges. The bar is set very, very high.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...-be-prosecuted
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Eh, that is a meaningless poll. Anyways, Obama and Hillary are long gone and ain't coming back. Because he FBI reports to Trump, the obstruction allegations also couldn't really hold water. Its just added to try to make Fake News seem more interesting. A sitting president can't be charged with a crime, he can only be impeached by Congress.

Oh, and Trump is said to be getting a Jerusalem train station to his name:
http://time.com/5080221/western-wall...-trump-israel/

What did Hillary or Obama get?
Claiming that a President can't be charged with a crime is not the same as stating a President will not commit crimes?
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Old 27.12.2017, 21:21
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Maybe, maybe not. It hasn't been done before but the Constitution doesn't explicitly say that. This article goes into the details, and it would appear impeachment and removal from office would have to happen first, before any criminal charges. The bar is set very, very high.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...-be-prosecuted
The POTUS has the power to pardon and give clemency.

Getting prosecuted is not going to happen due to rumours and innuendos. Although the bar for impeachment is quite low, and can happen with a democratic house. But after impeachment, it still requires senate conviction.

The longer democrats and opposition fixate on this impeachment fantasy, the longer they will go without a viable platform to offer, hence the longer they will be wandering out in the wilderness.

The best thing Trump opposition can do is gather their thoughts and come up with a viable platform to offer people. I don't think the American public share the same vindictiveness for their incompetence for having lost the election. And good luck trying to run on a platform of trying to reverse the tax cut.

The Democrats are lost in the wilderness, don't seem to know where they are, and are not likely to find their way back anytime soon with their present ways thinking (or non-thinking).
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Old 27.12.2017, 21:39
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Maybe I'm wrong but it does seem like the democrats do nothing - apart from demanding impeachment and bitching. The reaction of sore losers.
If they disagree so much, they gotta start getting active - politically, not with silly quarreling.

After all, when Al Gore wasn't elected there was also a lot of talk about things not having gone right but they got over it and carried on.
(And Bush also had a very strange way to express himself )
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Old 28.12.2017, 00:53
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Eh, that is a meaningless poll. Anyways, Obama and Hillary are long gone and ain't coming back. Because he FBI reports to Trump, the obstruction allegations also couldn't really hold water. Its just added to try to make Fake News seem more interesting. A sitting president can't be charged with a crime, he can only be impeached by Congress.

Oh, and Trump is said to be getting a Jerusalem train station to his name:
http://time.com/5080221/western-wall...-trump-israel/

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Who will pay for the branding licence to name a Jerusalem train station after Trump?
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Maybe I'm wrong but it does seem like the democrats do nothing - apart from demanding impeachment and bitching. The reaction of sore losers.
If they disagree so much, they gotta start getting active - politically, not with silly quarreling.

After all, when Al Gore wasn't elected there was also a lot of talk about things not having gone right but they got over it and carried on.
(And Bush also had a very strange way to express himself )
It is not a good excuse for Trump's behaviour to post the Democrats are crap?

The US President Trump should give up lying and stop posting tweets aimed at causing divisions in the US. He is the President of the whole US and should take that responsibility?
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Old 28.12.2017, 01:04
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It is not a good excuse for Trump's behaviour to post the Democrats are crap?

The US President Trump should give up lying and stop posting tweets aimed at causing divisions in the US. He is the President of the whole US and should take that responsibility?
Uhh cos BLM and other nonsense under Obama was so uniting of the country ?? You don't hear much from that shit show anymore huh ??
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Old 28.12.2017, 01:32
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Uhh cos BLM and other nonsense under Obama was so uniting of the country ?? You don't hear much from that shit show anymore huh ??
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Former President Obama is America’s “most admired man” for the 10th consecutive year, according to new survey data from Gallup.
You are entitled to your opinions but the facts speak for themselves.

You are implying that the Black Lives matter movement was somehow founded or led by Obama which is simply wrong?
The movement was founded by three women: Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi and was/is independent of Obama?

On uniting America Obama stated""It doesn't matter whether you're black or white, or Hispanic or Asian, or Native American, or young or old, or rich or poor, able, disabled, gay or straight – you can make it here in America if you're willing to try"
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Old 28.12.2017, 01:39
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You are entitled to your opinions but the facts speak for themselves.
You are implying that the Black Lives matter movement was somehow founded or led by Obama which is simply wrong?
Are you mentally intact ???

I supported Obama the first time against McCain exactly because I thought he could make a serious dent in the dreadful black violence (most of it directed at black people btw) and unite the country - he did not and it increased under his watch.
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Old 28.12.2017, 10:15
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Are you mentally intact ???

I supported Obama the first time against McCain exactly because I thought he could make a serious dent in the dreadful black violence (most of it directed at black people btw) and unite the country - he did not and it increased under his watch.
You didn't answer the question. Your post above implies you think Obama had something to do with running BLM. Do you retract that?
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Old 28.12.2017, 10:55
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Interesting article from the ft here "US rhetoric on N Korea runs into logistical reality!" (might be behind a paywall)

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According to operational plans for war with North Korea, nearly 700,000 US soldiers would be mobilised alongside 160 ships, 1,600 aircraft and about 2.7m South Korean reservists
If Trump initiates such upgrading of military assets it invites a pre-emptive attack by N. Korea on South which they would likely win!
There are only about 30,000 US troops stationed in South Korea. By comparison, Pyongyang has more than 7.5m reserve forces.

A pre-emptive nuclear strike on Pyongyang opens up a Pandora's box nobody wants to think about including the risk of nuclear retaliation
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The POTUS has the power to pardon and give clemency.

Getting prosecuted is not going to happen due to rumours and innuendos. Although the bar for impeachment is quite low, and can happen with a democratic house. But after impeachment, it still requires senate conviction.

The longer democrats and opposition fixate on this impeachment fantasy, the longer they will go without a viable platform to offer, hence the longer they will be wandering out in the wilderness.

The best thing Trump opposition can do is gather their thoughts and come up with a viable platform to offer people. I don't think the American public share the same vindictiveness for their incompetence for having lost the election. And good luck trying to run on a platform of trying to reverse the tax cut.

The Democrats are lost in the wilderness, don't seem to know where they are, and are not likely to find their way back anytime soon with their present ways thinking (or non-thinking).
1st para: Not going to happen? Can happen?

2nd para: Longer x 3? Viable platform arrives?

3rd para: Viable platform? Platform? Good luck?

4th para: Democrats?

Mate, may I suggest that you have a look at what you have just posted.

I see predictions, wild ones. Very vague.

vindictiveness for their incompetence ? I see someone in the corner waiting for the paint to dry when I read this.

Are you willing to explain what you mean by... vindictiveness for their incompetence ?

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Old 28.12.2017, 11:28
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You didn't answer the question. Your post above implies you think Obama had something to do with running BLM. Do you retract that?
Why retract it when I never made such a statement ?? The movement happened under his watch - he was in a unique position to end black violence - he did not.

By the way if you check Marton's post neither statement followed by question mark is actually a question.

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Old 28.12.2017, 11:29
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Another case of rhetoric meets reality.

Trump's administration has sent about 152,000 Mexican nationals back to their home country, compared to roughly 205,000 under Obama in the comparable first 11 months of 2016.

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At that rate the illegal immigrants will all be gone in 100 years.
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Why retract it when I never made such a statement ?? The movement happened under his watch - he was in a unique position to end black violence - he did not.
So your blaming of Obama for a perfectly legal movement which happened to occur under his administration. That seems a logical position.

Why was he in a unique position to end black violence incidentally? Because he himself is black. He was in no more unique a position than any of the other 44 presidents, but you seem to be singling him out? It doesn't take a genius to figure out why you are doing so, but maybe you should rethink your position there, it makes you seem a bit...I dunno, what's the word we libtard snowflakes use, racist?
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Looks like Trump and The Rock already have some competition for 2020...
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You didn't answer the question. Your post above implies you think Obama had something to do with running BLM. Do you retract that?
Not running, but Obama definitely encouraged it. He sided with street rioters over law enforcement.
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Mate, may I suggest that you have a look at what you have just posted.

I see predictions, wild ones. Very vague.

vindictiveness for their incompetence ? I see someone in the corner waiting for the paint to dry when I read this.

Are you willing to explain what you mean by... vindictiveness for their incompetence ?

Kind regards.

Talk of impeachment indicate the Democrats simply do not have anything better to offer. It will not gain Democrats anything. It only shows they are bankrupt morally, intellectually and politically.
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Not running, but Obama definitely encouraged it. He sided with street rioters over law enforcement.
As opposed to his successor siding with Nazis and police acting like the SS?

I think you are possibly failing to grasp the subtleties of language however. Please show me an example of where Obama actually said rioters are in the right and police in the wrong, as opposed to condemning specific instances of police (and rioter) violence.
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As opposed to his successor siding with Nazis and police acting like the SS?

I think you are possibly failing to grasp the subtleties of language however. Please show me an example of where Obama actually said rioters are in the right and police in the wrong, as opposed to condemning specific instances of police (and rioter) violence.

You apparently eat up everything you see and read on mainstream media without much critical thought. That kind of mental obedience to anything is very dangerous for civil liberties, and is what allows authoritarianism and fascism to take root in societies. A little more indication of critical thinking capabilities on your part would demonstrate some level of intelligence.

The idea of Trump siding with Nazis is based on him taking the middle ground in Charlottesville? That is some strange Nazi who has an Orthodox Jewish family. Whereas you find more Nazism and anti-semitism amongst leftist persuasions such as yours. I can walk you through those if you'd like.

As for Obama and Black Lives Matter, it all started with Fake News about an event in Ferguson which Obama should have understood very well and taken the side of truth on:
'Hands up, don't shoot' was built on a lie - The Washington Post
WORST PRESIDENT EVER: Obama Ignited Riots in Ferguson Over ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Lie

But instead of taking the side of truth, he chose a politically profitable one for him, at the cost of creating a deep division in the country. This here is Obama's real legacy and impact on American society, quite far from unity and cohesion.
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