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Old 28.12.2017, 11:21
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It is not a good excuse for Trump's behaviour to post the Democrats are crap?

The US President Trump should give up lying and stop posting tweets aimed at causing divisions in the US. He is the President of the whole US and should take that responsibility?
Nope, it is not a good excuse for Trump's behaviour at all.

But Trump's behaviour is also not a good excuse for the democrats to be passive where politics is concerned. Are they not gonna get back to work until Trump is gone?!
In difficult times the ability of politicians is proven. So now is their chance!

Hey, Mr. Blocher was in the Bundesrat and most people seiously didn't like it. Did they all just sit back, stop their political work and wait until he was gone? No, they knew there was a challenge and worked accordingly.
He was even head of the field I worked in. Yep, at first it looked like that was impossible. We too just dealt with it.

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Old 28.12.2017, 11:27
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you apparently eat up everything you see and read on mainstream media without much critical thought.
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Old 28.12.2017, 11:32
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So your blaming Obama for a perfectly legal movement which happened to occur under his administration. That seems a logical position.
As logical as blaming Trump (or any other president for that matter) for the change in the US economy since they take office ?? You're really smart i can tell.

As to the legality of BLM :
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On July 7, a BLM protest was held in Dallas, Texas that was organized to protest the deaths of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile. At the end of the peaceful protest, Micah Xavier Johnson opened fire in an ambush, killing five police officers and wounding seven others and two civilians. The gunman was then killed by a robot-delivered bomb.[145] Before he died, according to police, Johnson said that "he was upset about Black Lives Matter", and that "he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers."[146][146] Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick and other conservative lawmakers blamed the shootings on the Black Lives Matter movement.[147][148] The Black Lives Matter network released a statement denouncing the shootings.[149][150][151] On July 8, more than 100 people were arrested at Black Lives Matter protests across the United States.[152]
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Why was he in a unique position to end black violence incidentally? Because he himself is black.
Oh he certainly pointed the finger alright - not that the BBC wanted to pick him up on it :

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Barack Obama directly referenced the routine while campaigning to be elected President during a Father's Day speech on June 15, 2008, saying: "Chris Rock had a routine. He said some—too many of our men, they're proud, they brag about doing things they're supposed to do. They say 'Well, I—I'm not in jail.' Well, you're not supposed to be in jail!"[3]
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He was in no more unique a position than any of the other 44 presidents, but you seem to be singling him out?
Of course he was - he was the first one who could appeal to them directly as one of their own to put their shoulder to the wheel - and to punish mercilessly those who do not. Have you looked at crime rates in the black parts of the US recently ??

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It doesn't take a genius to figure out why you are doing so, but maybe you should rethink your position there, it makes you seem a bit...I dunno, what's the word we libtard snowflakes use, racist?
Only in the world where everything correct = racist sure
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Old 28.12.2017, 11:36
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You apparently eat up everything you see and read on mainstream media without much critical thought. That kind of mental obedience to anything is very dangerous for civil liberties, and is what allows authoritarianism and fascism to take root in societies. A little more indication of critical thinking capabilities on your part would demonstrate some level of intelligence.

The idea of Trump siding with Nazis is based on him taking the middle ground in Charlottesville? That is some strange Nazi who has an Orthodox Jewish family. Whereas you find more Nazism and anti-semitism amongst leftist persuasions such as yours. I can walk you through those if you'd like.

As for Obama and Black Lives Matter, it all started with Fake News about an event in Ferguson which Obama should have understood very well and taken the side of truth on:
'Hands up, don't shoot' was built on a lie - The Washington Post
WORST PRESIDENT EVER: Obama Ignited Riots in Ferguson Over ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ Lie

But instead of taking the side of truth, he chose a politically profitable one for him, at the cost of creating a deep division in the country. This here is Obama's real legacy and impact on American society, quite far from unity and cohesion.
You forgot to link to Infowars and Breitbart.
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Old 28.12.2017, 11:39
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You forgot to link to Infowars and Breitbart.
Washington Post is owned by Jeff Bezos and is quite mainstream. But okay, maybe its better for you and your type not to have your thinking challenged with too much depth, as you may not know how to cope with it.
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Old 28.12.2017, 11:50
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As logical as blaming Trump (or any other president for that matter) for the change in the US economy since they take office ?? You're really smart i can tell.

As to the legality of BLM :



Oh he certainly pointed the finger alright - not that the BBC wanted to pick him up on it :






Of course he was - he was the first one who could appeal to them directly as one of their own to put their shoulder to the wheel - and to punish mercilessly those who do not. Have you looked at crime rates in the black parts of the US recently ??


Only in the world where everything correct = racist sure
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Old 28.12.2017, 12:09
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Noise, noise, racism. Thank you for your valuable contribution.
Thanks - although as this is a written medium how you generate noise from it is a mystery known only to you.

Seasons greetings - I saw this and thought of you.
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Old 28.12.2017, 12:33
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Thanks - although as this is a written medium how you generate noise from it is a mystery known only to you.

Seasons greetings - I saw this and thought of you.
I can't see his ass, can you? I think this sort of meme probably just emphasises the difference in thought though. I'm not too bothered what people wear, not sure why anyone is. This screams of the "get off my lawn" / "kids in my day did things properly" rather than any significant real reason to stop people dressing "scruffily".

I'll admit now, I don't know who the statue is of, I can't read the inscription, but I'll assume it is alluding to the trend of removing pro-slavery civil war statues from areas.
I'm not sure some kid showing me his boxers is as offensive to most people as a statue of someone whose raison d'etre was to enslave vast swathes of the population. Each to their own reason for offence though, I suppose. I doubt it has only just become offensive though, but given our instant communication and ease of mobilisation from email, facebook and twitter, it is easier to find like minded people these days, so easier to organise a campaign to change something.
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Old 28.12.2017, 13:04
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That is some strange Nazi who has an Orthodox Jewish family. .
So you believe that children pick their life partners based on their parents political views

To quote from your own post "maybe its better for you and your type not to have your thinking challenged with too much depth"
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Old 28.12.2017, 13:05
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Thanks - although as this is a written medium how you generate noise from it is a mystery known only to you.

Seasons greetings - I saw this and thought of you.
"there Ass"? Indeed ignorant
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Old 28.12.2017, 13:07
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So you believe that children pick their life partners based on their parents political views

To quote from your own post "maybe its better for you and your type not to have your thinking challenged with too much depth"
And you believe Trump is a Nazi.

But go ahead by all means. Absurdities are easy picking, and don't really need much challenging.
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Old 28.12.2017, 13:13
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And you believe Trump is a Nazi.

But go ahead by all means. Absurdities are easy picking, and don't really need much challenging.
I don't think anyone said that. We said he tacitly supported their position. Again, it's that subtlety of language you are missing. I know I'm being harsh here, as English isn't your first language, but it does matter in these debates.
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Old 28.12.2017, 13:14
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I don't think anyone said that. We said he tacitly supported their position. Again, it's that subtlety of language you are missing. I know I'm being harsh here, as English isn't your first language, but it does matter in these debates.

I am willing to bet that Trump does a whole of a lot more for African American and minority communities than Obama has been able to, by the time Trump is done. That is how stupid leftist polemic is. It does not recognize its own racism.

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Old 28.12.2017, 13:16
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I am willing to be that Trump does a whole of a lot more for African American and minority communities than Obama has been able to, by the time Trump is done. That is how stupid leftist polemic is. It does not recognize its own racism.
This sounds like baseless speculation. Oh, it is.
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Old 28.12.2017, 13:22
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This sounds like baseless speculation. Oh, it is.
Based on realities and historical facts. No lives have ever been elevated by leftist politics in the US. It has only dug them in deeper into ghettos. But countless lives have been elevated through economic opportunities.
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Old 28.12.2017, 13:35
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So your blaming Obama for a perfectly legal movement which happened to occur under his administration.
Harsh but fair
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Harsh but fair
Missing an "of" isn't really the same as not comprehending an argument.
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I don't think anyone said that. We said he tacitly supported their position.
Don't you mean "wrote" rather than "said" ??

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Again, it's that subtlety of language you are missing. I know I'm being harsh here, as English isn't your first language, but it does matter in these debates.
Isn't irony wonderful ?
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And you believe Trump is a Nazi.

But go ahead by all means. Absurdities are easy picking, and don't really need much challenging.
Wot he said!

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I don't think anyone said that. We said he tacitly supported their position. Again, it's that subtlety of language you are missing. I know I'm being harsh here, as English isn't your first language, but it does matter in these debates.
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Don't you mean "wrote" rather than "said" ??


Isn't irony wonderful ?
Shurely "posted" would be better
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