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Alabama, a rigorously Republican part of the US.
Hmm, never knew that George Wallace was a Republican.

Reality is they they are only recently Republican, they are traditionaly Democrats.

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Old 28.12.2017, 18:15
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Speaking of poverty, Alabama, a rigorously Republican part of the US, has the worst poverty in the developed world:

http://www.newsweek.com/alabama-un-poverty-eican nvironmental-racism-743601

Also hookworm has returned there, a parasitic infection due to poor water quality.
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Lowndes County in Alabama, the most impoverished part of the state, represented by Democrats. Its the usual ghetto story in the US:

http://www.legislature.state.al.us/a...ID_PERSON=7697
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Sewell
The link Frank posted specifically mentions Republican Butler County (link), Alabama not Lowndes County.

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I assume you have no source for "Lowndes County in Alabama, the most impoverished part of the state"
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Old 28.12.2017, 18:19
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Hmm, never knew that George Wallace was a Republican.

Reality is they they are only recently Republican, they are traditionaly Democrats.

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Depends what you define as recent; turned Republican in 1986
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It reminds me of Buenos Aires. There are tin shack ghettos where no police would venture to go - areas that are completely neglected by city planning officials, housing authorities, etc. and that receive virtually no public funds. Yet the people who live in these slums have the right to vote...


And so the politicians arrive before the elections and try to out-do eachother with the handouts to the poor ghetto dwellers. A big turkey to eat in exchange for a vote, for example.


Here in the US, they hand out welfare checks instead of turkeys. The end goal is not to elevate people out of poverty, but to secure their allegiance and their vote. If they were no longer dependent on the welfare system, they would have no reason to continue voting for politicians who promise welfare benefits.


edit/add: welfare system dependency and abuse is embedded and glorified in the culture.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI-a1LjpiA


for those who don't know, the '1st of the month' is the day the welfare checks arrive.
In my experience most people belonging to marginalised social categories (many times minorities, but surprisingly not only..) vote with left wing parties because they're promised social benefits or let's say - to get out of the vicious circle of poverty. Nothing new here.
On the other hand, not only the poor vote with the lefties. Quite a lot from the middle classes too, or academics, people like that. There must be something they do well, I suppose.

What about the Democrats? What about Obama care? Will the Americans be better off without it?
What the Republicans plan to do for the poor except from cutting off those pay checks, without which some families might not survive. I am not sure what people propose in order to replace a welfare system which is not that effective anyway.

Edit. As Trump would comment....fake news

http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/13/news...nts/index.html

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Old 28.12.2017, 21:06
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Alabama on Thursday certified Democrat Doug Jones' victory over Republican Roy Moore in this month's special Senate election.

Moore had refused to concede in the wake of the election result.
On Wednesday, he filed an election complaint alleging voter fraud may have occurred, calling for a delay in the certification of the results that declared Jones officially the winner and asked for "a new special election."

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Meanwhile lawyers in more and more court cases are trying to use Trump tweets to support their cases.

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WOW, @foxandfrlends “Dossier is bogus. Clinton Campaign, DNC funded Dossier. FBI CANNOT (after all of this time) VERIFY CLAIMS IN DOSSIER OF RUSSIA/TRUMP COLLUSION. FBI TAINTED.” And they used this Crooked Hillary pile of garbage as the basis for going after the Trump Campaign!
Lawyers argued the latest tweet about the dossier should be seen as an official confirmation from the US President about both the existence of the dossier and the FBI's role in vetting it.

Meanwhile Govt. lawyers are supporting the FBI response that "neither confirms nor denies" the dossier exists and that they have examined it. They claim the President is just repeating stuff he saw on Fox&Friends!

Hard to imagine lawyers for any other major world leader saying their boss just repeats what he sees on TV.
"You could not make it up"

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Old 28.12.2017, 23:08
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In my experience most people belonging to marginalised social categories (many times minorities, but surprisingly not only..) vote with left wing parties because they're promised social benefits or let's say - to get out of the vicious circle of poverty. Nothing new here.
On the other hand, not only the poor vote with the lefties. Quite a lot from the middle classes too, or academics, people like that. There must be something they do well, I suppose.

What about the Democrats? What about Obama care? Will the Americans be better off without it?
What the Republicans plan to do for the poor except from cutting off those pay checks, without which some families might not survive. I am not sure what people propose in order to replace a welfare system which is not that effective anyway.

Edit. As Trump would comment....fake news

http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/13/news...nts/index.html
What about gardening , Raising goat's and rabbits
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Old 28.12.2017, 23:38
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What about gardening , Raising goat's and rabbits
Not a bad idea, supposing the Republicans will also give them a garden for gardening and raising rabbits.
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Old 29.12.2017, 00:09
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Not a bad idea, supposing the Republicans will also give them a garden for gardening and raising rabbits.
Fake rabbits, fake goats,fake garden's :-)
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Old 29.12.2017, 00:14
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The link Frank posted specifically mentions Republican Butler County (link), Alabama not Lowndes County.

You are now officially assistant groundkeeper

I assume you have no source for "Lowndes County in Alabama, the most impoverished part of the state"
As usual, you have no idea what you are trying to talk about. Sorry, I don't have time to entertain your ignorance.
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Old 29.12.2017, 00:24
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Fake rabbits, fake goats,fake garden's :-)
Great, very easy maintenance.
We should really go for fake, come to think of it.
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Old 29.12.2017, 00:49
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As usual, you have no idea what you are trying to talk about. Sorry, I don't have time to entertain your ignorance.
Very convincing, not

If you are unable to provide any sources then your post lacks credibility, discussion terminated
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Old 29.12.2017, 02:05
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Very convincing, not

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Jeff Sessions- one of the worst southern red necks for a long time in a high position. Also pictured together with Donald Trump!

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Hmm, never knew that George Wallace was a Republican.

Reality is they they are only recently Republican, they are traditionaly Democrats.

Tom
Quite right. But that’s a little disingenuous. Southern Democrats started migrating to the Republican party after the Civil Rights act, so after late 1960s. Changed the complexion of both the Republican and Democratic parties over time. Of course now, both parties are mired in mud.
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Quite right. But that’s a little disingenuous. Southern Democrats started migrating to the Republican party after the Civil Rights act, so after late 1960s. Changed the complexion of both the Republican and Democratic parties over time. Of course now, both parties are mired in mud.
Thanks for that. My fact checking re. Alabama's current political state was below par.
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...What the Republicans plan to do for the poor except from cutting off those pay checks, without which some families might not survive. I am not sure what people propose in order to replace a welfare system which is not that effective anyway...
Unfortunately the common thinking in many societies is that the poor are poor because they're lazy and stupid and drug addicts. Thus they don't deserve handouts, and reducing benefits will actually save tax money for those proper, hard-working folks.

In reality, poor are poor for a variety of reasons. Sure, some are lazy freeloaders. Many are single parents struggling to make ends meet after the partner/spouse disappeared without paying any support. Some are veterans of the military that have been left behind by the system. Some are folks with mental health issues that can't function in society. Some have physical health issues that costs a fortune to deal with and they're unable to work.

It's not a one-size-fits-all definition, but politicians like to treat it that way to score political points.
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Old 29.12.2017, 10:48
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Impressive hypocrisy:
Well you have to admit that blaming their Democratic Representative for the conditions in Lowndes County when two thirds of the Alabama House of Representatives are Republican is at best naive?

Probably due to the Trump effect Alabama, like Virginia, will see the Republicans lose their commanding lead at the next election!
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Unfortunately the common thinking in many societies is that the poor are poor because they're lazy and stupid and drug addicts. Thus they don't deserve handouts, and reducing benefits will actually save tax money for those proper, hard-working folks.

In reality, poor are poor for a variety of reasons. Sure, some are lazy freeloaders. Many are single parents struggling to make ends meet after the partner/spouse disappeared without paying any support. Some are veterans of the military that have been left behind by the system. Some are folks with mental health issues that can't function in society. Some have physical health issues that costs a fortune to deal with and they're unable to work.

It's not a one-size-fits-all definition, but politicians like to treat it that way to score political points.
In fact, serious debt and even bankruptcy after medical care are faced by way too many American families. And, the support of veterans is atrocious.
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Grandpa's been on the potty again...

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In the East, it could be the COLDEST New Year’s Eve on record. Perhaps we could use a little bit of that good old Global Warming that our Country, but not other countries, was going to pay TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS to protect against. Bundle up!
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...31657229701120
More and more, I'm getting the impression that Donald Trump isn't a real person, but the world's greatest example of performance art.
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