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Naw, that is just not my kind of reading. I thought this kind of book and genre is perfect for Marton's level of interest.

I need something more palpably real and objective than that: Immigration reform, border walls, infrastructure projects, etc.
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I authorized Zero access to White House (actually turned him down many times) for author of phony book! I never spoke to him for book.
Full of lies, misrepresentations and sources that don’t exist.
Look at this guy’s past and watch what happens to him and Sloppy Steve!
Book full of lies? What else would a book about Trump be full of?
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Old 05.01.2018, 17:11
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Examples? Or are you counting Tweets and brainfarts, in which case he's top of the moron table.

So far it is exactly warm air when it comes to substance.
A ton of other things people can count.

An estimate of over 50% of Americans are already richer over the last 12 months. Average retirement plan is up over 30% Unemployment is at around 4%, the dow is trading at a record of 25,000. Democrats are decimated.

The name calling, insults and triggered feelings is all just additional side entertainment in the whole scheme of things.

I suspect he will be accomplishing a lot more.

You see, people who understand the process of value creation recognize it happens through grit, tenacity and determination. They see what Trump is doing. It is totally anathema for people who have never really accomplished great things in their lives, and so they just don't recognize what is happening here.

Trump is practically putting on a public clinic on what it takes to accomplish great things. Those who know it recognize it. Those who don't are perplexed by it.
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Book full of lies? What else would a book about Trump be full of?
I'm still laughing at "Sloppy Steve"
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A ton of other things people can count.

An estimate of over 50% of Americans are already richer over the last 12 months. Average retirement plan is up over 30% Unemployment is at around 4%, the dow is trading at a record of 25,000. Democrats are decimated.

The name calling, insults and triggered feelings is all just additional side entertainment in the whole scheme of things.

I suspect he will be accomplishing a lot more.

You see, people who understand the process of value creation recognize it happens through grit, tenacity and determination. They see what Trump is doing. It is totally anathema for people who have never really accomplished great things in their lives, and so they just don't recognize what is happening here.

Trump is practically putting on a public clinic on what it takes to accomplish great things. Those who know it recognize it. Those who don't are perplexed by it.


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Old 05.01.2018, 17:28
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A ton of other things people can count.

An estimate of over 50% of Americans are already richer over the last 12 months. Average retirement plan is up over 30% Unemployment is at around 4%, the dow is trading at a record of 25,000. Democrats are decimated.

The name calling, insults and triggered feelings is all just additional side entertainment in the whole scheme of things.

I suspect he will be accomplishing a lot more.

You see, people who understand the process of value creation recognize it happens through grit, tenacity and determination. They see what Trump is doing. It is totally anathema for people who have never really accomplished great things in their lives, and so they just don't recognize what is happening here.

Trump is practically putting on a public clinic on what it takes to accomplish great things. Those who know it recognize it. Those who don't are perplexed by it.
Just richer on paper, in the real world the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported; "From November 2016 to November 2017, real average hourly earnings were unchanged"

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I assume your "50% of Americans" is not backed by any credible source?
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Old 05.01.2018, 17:52
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Just richer on paper, in the real world the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported; "From November 2016 to November 2017, real average hourly earnings were unchanged"

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I assume your "50% of Americans" is not backed by any credible source?
Nearly everyone will be paying less in taxes this year, keeping more of it themselves. Just about everyone who owns real estate have increased their holding's value. 401K and retirement plan owners are up 30%.

And then there are more people back to work. We have to lowest unemployment rate for black people in 45 years, at 6.8%.

I welcome Trump to trigger as many liberals as he possibly can if he can continue to deliver these kinds of real results in return.
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Old 05.01.2018, 17:55
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Nearly everyone will be paying less in taxes this year, keeping more of it themselves. Just about everyone who owns real estate have increased their holding's value. 401K and retirement plan owners are up 30%.

And then there are more people back to work. We have to lowest unemployment rate for black people in 45 years, at 6.8%.

I welcome Trump to trigger as many liberals as he possibly can if he can continue to deliver these kinds of real results in return.
But they will be paying more for healthcare so the chances of "keeping more of it themselves" are quite low
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Nearly everyone will be paying less in taxes this year, keeping more of it themselves. Just about everyone who owns real estate have increased their holding's value. 401K and retirement plan owners are up 30%.
You keep harping on these but you have to remember that these values are only virtual until the asset is sold. Yes, tax rates will go down for a lot of folks, so I'll give you that as a "real" change.

But a house is only worth what someone is willing to pay at the moment they buy it - not what some internet site claims it is worth. If my friends sell their house tomorrow at the price they are asking, then they will make a profit. If the housing market takes a dip before they find a buyer, they might break even. Another friend, the "value" of her house more than doubled from 1996 to 2008...until the financial crisis. Then she could not find a buyer for even the price she paid.

Same is true for retirement plans. The value on paper is higher, and returns look great...for now. They still have to pay current and future obligations. If one projects these returns to continue, then one assumes future obligations can easily be met. That's possible of course, but a downturn is possible too and should be accounted for when making calculations.

Here's an article from a few years ago about how funds are recovering from the recession:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business...hought/410791/
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Old 05.01.2018, 18:33
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I'm still laughing at "Sloppy Steve"
Proof that Sloppy Steve is Bannon

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The Mercer Family recently dumped the leaker known as Sloppy Steve Bannon. Smart!
If Bannon is a leaker then Trump should name him Seepy Steve?
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It is all very inspirational, tbh.
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The name calling, insults and triggered feelings is all just additional side entertainment in the whole scheme of things.

I suspect he will be accomplishing a lot more.

It is totally anathema for people who have never really accomplished great things in their lives, and so they just don't recognize what is happening here.

Trump is practically putting on a public clinic on what it takes to accomplish great things. Those who know it recognize it. Those who don't are perplexed by it.
^^When you share all your pens in class, but nobody returns them.
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Old 05.01.2018, 18:43
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You keep harping on these but you have to remember that these values are only virtual until the asset is sold. Yes, tax rates will go down for a lot of folks, so I'll give you that as a "real" change.

But a house is only worth what someone is willing to pay at the moment they buy it - not what some internet site claims it is worth. If my friends sell their house tomorrow at the price they are asking, then they will make a profit. If the housing market takes a dip before they find a buyer, they might break even. Another friend, the "value" of her house more than doubled from 1996 to 2008...until the financial crisis. Then she could not find a buyer for even the price she paid.

Same is true for retirement plans. The value on paper is higher, and returns look great...for now. They still have to pay current and future obligations. If one projects these returns to continue, then one assumes future obligations can easily be met. That's possible of course, but a downturn is possible too and should be accounted for when making calculations.

Here's an article from a few years ago about how funds are recovering from the recession:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business...hought/410791/
Of course it accounts for wealth and net worth. Market house value minus liability is equity that is factored into one's net worth, which in turn can be the basis for a potential action.
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Of course it accounts for wealth and net worth. Market house value minus liability is equity that is factored into one's net worth, which in turn can be the basis for a potential action risk.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Wait, so the guy wrote a book about rumours and hearsays swirling around Trump, which he can't be sure are true?

The author of the explosive new Trump book says he can't be sure if parts of it are true

So they have basically published a Fake Book?

WTF, it is no wonder people are as stupid as they are.
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Wait, so the guy wrote a book about rumours and hearsays swirling around Trump, which he can't be sure are true?

The author of the explosive new Trump book says he can't be sure if parts of it are true

So they have basically published a Fake Book?

WTF, it is no wonder people are as stupid as they are.
Now you quote and believe fake news media
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

If you want an article that chills your bones, this makes you really wonder who the real power behind the throne is...other than Maccy D's cheeseburgers. Also makes me wonder who is 'the useful idiot' of the scenario, and whether anyone will want sloppy seconds with 'Sloppy Steve', or has he outlived his usefulness?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.3be4607ea90a
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If you want an article that chills your bones, this makes you really wonder who the real power behind the throne is...other than Maccy D's cheeseburgers. Also makes me wonder who is 'the useful idiot' of the scenario, and whether anyone will want sloppy seconds with 'Sloppy Steve', or has he outlived his usefulness?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.3be4607ea90a
Very often one can get more out of such books by what is not written rather than what is.

As an example, Vice President Pence is mentioned only once.

So is Pence the sort of real power behind the throne and calming influence that some GOP people pin their hopes on or is he just a bit part player?

EDIT; The vice president's chief counsel, Mark Paoletta, and his domestic policy director, Daris Meeks, are set to leave, CNN reported Friday. Their departures were announced by chief of staff Nick Ayers in a meeting this week.
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FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, whom President Trump has blamed for influencing the decision not to criminally charge Hillary Clinton for her use of private email server, did not oversee that inquiry while his wife was running for state office in Virginia as a Democrat, according to bureau records released Friday.

The internal documents, published on the FBI's website, support what the bureau has asserted previously: that McCabe had no conflicts when he assumed oversight of the Clinton investigation.
His role began in February 2016, following his appointment as deputy director and three months after his wife, Jill McCabe, lost her bid for a state Senate seat.
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GOP senators send criminal referral to Justice Department for dossier author

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Funny, the very same GOP that complain Mueller is exceeding his mandate in the Russian probe by investigating not directly related crimes are now misusing their own Russian probe investigation to demand criminal investigation against someone who was not directly involved in Trump campaign Russian collusion.

"You could not make it up"!
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Wait, so the guy wrote a book about rumours and hearsays swirling around Trump, which he can't be sure are true?

The author of the explosive new Trump book says he can't be sure if parts of it are true

So they have basically published a Fake Book?

WTF, it is no wonder people are as stupid as they are.
Nice try darling:

This is what he actually says:

"Many of the accounts of what has happened in the Trump White House are in conflict with one another; many, in Trumpian fashion, are baldly untrue. These conflicts, and that looseness with the truth, if not with reality itself, are an elemental thread of the book.

"Sometimes I have let the players offer their versions, in turn allowing the reader to judge them. In other instances I have, through a consistency in the accounts and through sources I have come to trust, settled on a version of events I believe to be true."

Wolff doesn't say every account in the book is true because his book is not a judgement on what goes on in the White House; its an anthology of accounts from people that are in the White House.


When a book riles up the trumpian swamp this badly, its definitely true.

Brb, I'm getting my popcorn.
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