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Old 10.01.2018, 11:48
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You are confusing ROK soldiers with North Koreans.
Oops my bad; mis-read your post. Please continue.
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Old 10.01.2018, 11:53
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Well, South Korean President Moon has already explicitly credited Trump. But you are free to spin up whatever you'd like in your imagination.
Exactly because he doesnt want to snub the US, its called diplomacy and ego massaging.

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I guarantee you that NK is not going into these talks with a false bravado that they have the upper hand. And South Korea would be idiotic to go into it without the US leverage.
Did you just contradict yourself?

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Trump's tough foreign policy talk certainly works as it is backed by a huge US arsenal. But if Trump shows that he is more talk than action, THIS could put us in many very dangerous situations. Trump will need to demonstrate at some point his stances do have real world consequences. If Trump fails this in North Korea, he will also fail it in Iran, and Pakistan, and elsewhere.
Trump is not going to put boots on DPRK soil that would be hugely unpopular with his supporters, considering that he pledged to not get involved in foreign conflations anymore. Trump doesnt have any foreign policy talk, he merely tweets his thoughts, that doesnt equate to action, but provokes rehtoric from the enemies of the US.

Obama challanged China and DRK with military exercises in the region and never lifted sanctions on the DRK either. Trump is dumb, its simple, he has not achieved this. Its a game of politics and ego massaging.
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Old 10.01.2018, 12:04
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But you are free to spin up whatever you'd like in your imagination.
Yes, quite...

Or is your own fantasy easier for you to swallow?

No idea of the facts? No problem - just make it up just to stay in the thread, eh?
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Old 10.01.2018, 12:06
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Trump is not going to put boots on DPRK soil that would be hugely unpopular with his supporters...
And more importantly, would initiate a war with China.
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Old 10.01.2018, 12:12
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Trump is not going to put boots on DPRK soil that would be hugely unpopular with his supporters, considering that he pledged to not get involved in foreign conflations anymore. Trump doesnt have any foreign policy talk, he merely tweets his thoughts, that doesnt equate to action, but provokes rehtoric from the enemies of the US.

Obama challanged China and DRK with military exercises in the region and never lifted sanctions on the DRK either. Trump is dumb, its simple, he has not achieved this. Its a game of politics and ego massaging.

There are about 40,000 US soldiers in South Korea already. Many standing right at the DMZ.

Trump does not micro-manage the US military. He's given them autonomy and carte-blanche to act as they see fit. This is a huge departure from Obama, who insisted on approving each mission. The difference in results is that ISIS was decimated in Trump's first year, while Obama could not do the job.

If Trump needs to take action on NK, he will not be consulting polls. Notice he rarely consults polls.
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Old 10.01.2018, 13:05
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There are about 40,000 US soldiers in South Korea already. Many standing right at the DMZ.

Trump does not micro-manage the US military. He's given them autonomy and carte-blanche to act as they see fit. This is a huge departure from Obama, who insisted on approving each mission. The difference in results is that ISIS was decimated in Trump's first year, while Obama could not do the job.

If Trump needs to take action on NK, he will not be consulting polls. Notice he rarely consults polls.
Putin and Assad, the YPG and the Iraqi army along with US air/drone strikes defeated ISIS. All U.S. involvement in Syria and Iraq was happening before Trump entered the arena, you can't credit Trump with that at all. In fact Trump has not stopped or hindered what the anti-Obama camps favourite accusation against Obama was, namely targeted assasinations and Drone strikes. You are blowing the wrong trumpet Phos.

Further more there has been a long standing military alliance between South Korea and the U.S. and there have been U.S. troops based in Korea since the late 1950s.
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Putin and Assad, the YPG and the Iraqi army along with US air/drone strikes defeated ISIS. .

Absolutely.

Actually, I would argue that the only net-positive thing the West did was giving YPG better weapons.
Putin and Assad did the rest.
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Old 10.01.2018, 13:13
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Absolutely.

Actually, I would argue that the only net-positive thing the West did was giving YPG better weapons.
Putin and Assad did the rest.
From what I understand, the West were also carrying out air-strikes and had SpecOps on the ground, but this all started under Obama's watch.
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Old 10.01.2018, 13:22
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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From what I understand, the West were also carrying out air-strikes and had SpecOps on the ground, but this all started under Obama's watch.
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The Western coalition made 28,696 anti-ISIS air strikes.

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Hardly nothing
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Old 10.01.2018, 13:24
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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You are confusing ROK soldiers with North Koreans. ROK soldiers do not defect.
Actually a few do. But massively outnumbered by traffic in the other direction. More recently the North has been sending them back.
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Old 10.01.2018, 13:25
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From what I understand, the West were also carrying out air-strikes and had SpecOps on the ground, but this all started under Obama's watch.
The British, the French, the Yanks, the Israelis are among many with special forces all over the M.E. in active service, and whether you agree to western involvement or not, Trump has personally done nothing apart from rant on Twitter about people who disagree with him.
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Old 10.01.2018, 13:40
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Putin and Assad, the YPG and the Iraqi army along with US air/drone strikes defeated ISIS. All U.S. involvement in Syria and Iraq was happening before Trump entered the arena, you can't credit Trump with that at all. In fact Trump has not stopped or hindered what the anti-Obama camps favourite accusation against Obama was, namely targeted assasinations and Drone strikes. You are blowing the wrong trumpet Phos.

Further more there has been a long standing military alliance between South Korea and the U.S. and there have been U.S. troops based in Korea since the late 1950s.
Obama practically nursed ISIS, even arming them through ineptness. He even interfered with Russian operations. Trump allowed the US military to coordinate directly with Russian counterparts without his interference. And it isn't so much Trump's accomplishment as it is Matthis. Trump merely got out of the military's way.

Obama and Trump's bottom line results speak for themselves.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Strange strategy the GOP have towards Fusion gps who wrote the dossier about Russian and Trump.

First the GOP claimed it was a fake dossier and then they claimed the FBI should not have started the Trump probe based on a fake dossier.

After that they dragged the Fusion gps chief Simpson into a Congressional investigation and eventually a day long interview.

Now it is published that Simpson said during this interview the FBI probe on Trump started before they were given the dossier. Simpson also provided information about many other allegations ranging from multiple contacts with Russian and Italian Mafias to "is Trump really a billionaire".

GOP leaders must already have known about these allegations. For example, in early 2016, at the height of the Republican primary fight, Cruz cited possible mob ties as one reason for Trump to release his taxes.

So was this GOP strategy trying to help Trump or to discredit him?
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Old 10.01.2018, 15:32
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There are about 40,000 US soldiers in South Korea already. Many standing right at the DMZ.

Trump does not micro-manage the US military. He's given them autonomy and carte-blanche to act as they see fit. This is a huge departure from Obama, who insisted on approving each mission. The difference in results is that ISIS was decimated in Trump's first year, while Obama could not do the job.

If Trump needs to take action on NK, he will not be consulting polls. Notice he rarely consults polls.
Interesting how ppl see things , My thought is that Obama defeated ISIS without to many US casualty.
I give him 100% credit in "No civilian commercial airline looses" http://www.englishforum.ch/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Also the speedy recovery of my wifes flue,next he walk on water
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Old 10.01.2018, 16:07
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Grandad mastered the lock on the bedroom door again and found the tweet machine

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Donald J. Trump‏@realDonaldTrump

It just shows everyone how broken and unfair our Court System is when the opposing side in a case (such as DACA) always runs to the 9th Circuit and almost always wins before being reversed by higher courts.
He is President; it is his court system.

Very divisive for the US when Trump challenges the rule of law and implicitly encourages others to do likewise.
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He is President; it is his court system.

Very divisive for the US when Trump challenges the rule of law and implicitly encourages others to do likewise.
Take more American Civic lessons perhaps Marton?

We have three separate branches of government:
-Executive Branch (Trump be here, along with swamp things in agencies)
-Legislative (Congress and swamp things)
-Judicial (Here be courts and judges)

Now, I know in other places Dear Leader controls it all. But this is the US, not other places.
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Take more American Civic lessons perhaps Marton?

We have three separate branches of government:
-Executive Branch (Trump be here, along with swamp things in agencies)
-Legislative (Congress and swamp things)
-Judicial (Here be courts and judges)

Now, I know in other places Dear Leader controls it all. But this is the US, not other places.

We all know this . Just like Germany in the thirties ,the rest is history. Looks like a repeat under Stump

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...The White House (WH) intends to destroy voter data collected by the election fraud commission President Donald Trump recently shut down, the Justice Department said in a court filing Tuesday night...
Riiiiiiiiiight. I totally believe Jeff Sessions.
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Take more American Civic lessons perhaps Marton?

We have three separate branches of government:
-Executive Branch (Trump be here, along with swamp things in agencies)
-Legislative (Congress and swamp things)
-Judicial (Here be courts and judges)

Now, I know in other places Dear Leader controls it all. But this is the US, not other places.
Federal judges, like Supreme Court Justices, are appointed by the President with the consent of the Senate.
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Take more American Civic lessons perhaps Marton?

We have three separate branches of government:
-Executive Branch (Trump be here, along with swamp things in agencies)
-Legislative (Congress and swamp things)
-Judicial (Here be courts and judges)

Now, I know in other places Dear Leader controls it all. But this is the US, not other places.
Phos, I started to appreciated your sincerity. Please let us know when Trump does anything good. So far his big mouth said no more outrageous things than what you can hear from our distinguished EF proletariat, when it suits them. "Grab them by the pussy" is just manly, even when put in practice.
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