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Old 12.01.2018, 21:51
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Tellin' it how it is.

It's why he was elected!
But he is denying he said it?

So is he also a snowflake?
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Old 12.01.2018, 21:55
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Old 12.01.2018, 21:58
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Tellin' it how it is.

It's why he was elected!
You don't need to be elected President of the United States to do a bit of name-calling.
Little children do it in the playground the whole time.
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Interesting. What do you believe is the cause of the knife crime then? Skin colour or a penchant for Dr Dre?

Also, no rapper EVER talks about knifing people, that's low rent. Guns are where it's at.
Showing your age there mate. Go and listen to Stormzy and J Hus spittin sum bars and report back. Won't pretend that I know more than I do, but rap has seen a renaissance in London in recent years.

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Again interesting. Which "black culture" are you referring to? London has a huge population of people from many places. Caribbean, Somalian, Kenyan, etc?

The fact you suggest they would be using "Innit" and "Fam" shows they are very much a product of being Londoners rather than anything else. Black, white and asians who grew up in London all use this vernacular, it's not a black thing in the slightest...5 mins of the dreadful Arsenal Fan TV will disabuse you of that notion.
Yes, Londoners. Black Londoners. And this is a part of black London culture. Heritage is secondary as they are born and bred Londoners. Whilst a Londoner of Congoloese descent would may have Pili-Pili on their meat and a Londoner of Jamaican descent may have Jerk sauce instead, what is very likely is that they'll both speak a street jungle patois otherwise known as "Multicultural London English". They are more likely to be in a street gang, and they are more likely to be stabbed for the simple fact that they are black Londoners. This is a feral culture that in part has been imported and in part that has developed on London's "Streets".

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Or more accurately a poor / low socio-economical problem. As you acknowledged earlier, Scotland has no black people and historically Glasgow has had a massive knife problem.
The number of thanks you got for this post just shows how the urge to be PC and not willing to see the reality has affected so many peoples judgment.

"poor / low socio-economical problem". Well according to Uncle Max this is a problem affecting the entire country. So where are the stabbings on this scale in Bristol or in Sheffield or in Newcastle? Looking further afield what about other capital cities in the Europe with "poor / low socio-economical problems"? Berlin? Madrid? Prague? Warsaw?

I wasting my time though, none of you will see it. Blinded to reality. Laughable. Now back let's get back to the latest dose of innit fam.

Talented young British model is stabbed to death on London street in 'robbery gone wrong'
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Old 12.01.2018, 22:35
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I disagree with you on this. The guy has to represent the US - and at the moment stand behind Trump. I would never work for a boss like Trump.

A snowflake would have blushed and carried on or, worse, hinted to the politicians of the guest-country that he doesn't agree with Trump and his way to approach things.

The guy did the right thing as many others should too. I can't believe there are actually still people who wanna do the job of media spokesman of the white house!

Having said that, all politicians active in the governement outside the white-house should seriously stick it out and make sure, the country is run properly. But they apparently prefer to "retire". Them is who I call snowflakes.
I was being sarcastic Curley
Of course I think he did the right thing, I wish those in the Republican party would do the same and finally admit that he is demeaning them and the entire country.
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Old 12.01.2018, 22:43
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You see race and Obama's "blackness", I see the dismantling of an overbearing Administrative State. The more we get rid of it, notice how much better the US and its economy performs. Its because nobody voted nor asked for it.

So who is being racist?

The tatoos are a dead giveaway.
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Old 12.01.2018, 22:45
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The number of thanks you got for this post just shows how the urge to be PC and not willing to see the reality has affected so many peoples judgment.
Nope, it added balance to your rather clumsy assertion.
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Nope, it added balance to your rather clumsy assertion.
LOL, look at all these young men stabbed to death in London in 2017. I wonder what they almost all have in common? Must be their poor / low socio-economic status.

Blood on the streets of London as 24th youth is killed this year - the highest for decade
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Old 12.01.2018, 22:52
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LOL, look at all these young men stabbed to death in London in 2017. I wonder what they almost all have in common? Must be their poor / low socio-economic status.

Blood on the streets of London as 24th youth is killed this year - the highest for decade
They're dead because of a senseless act. That's what they have in common. HTH.
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Old 12.01.2018, 22:55
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LOL, look at all these young men stabbed to death in London in 2017. I wonder what they almost all have in common? Must be their poor / low socio-economic status.

Blood on the streets of London as 24th youth is killed this year - the highest for decade
Of 120 murders in London for those 11 months. Remember London has a population size the equivalent of Switzerland. Dude you really need to get out more.

https://www.met.police.uk/stats-and-...ata-dashboard/
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Old 12.01.2018, 22:56
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I've seen that photo (first photo in linked article) before. As I'm not on Instagram, I suspect it was in a link on EF.
So the guy was active, expressing opinions (don't know about what as I don't remember where it was linked). Therefore dismissing his death as "believed to be a robbery which went wrong" the day after it occurred does not sound like diligent policework to me.
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Old 12.01.2018, 22:58
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LOL, look at all these young men stabbed to death in London in 2017. I wonder what they almost all have in common? Must be their poor / low socio-economic status.

Blood on the streets of London as 24th youth is killed this year - the highest for decade
And you accuse others of being "blinded to reality". Then again, if you are only reading The Mirror and Daily Mail (judging by your recent links), it kind of explains it.
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Old 12.01.2018, 23:00
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Showing your age there mate. Go and listen to Stormzy and J Hus spittin sum bars and report back. Won't pretend that I know more than I do, but rap has seen a renaissance in London in recent years.



Yes, Londoners. Black Londoners. And this is a part of black London culture. Heritage is secondary as they are born and bred Londoners. Whilst a Londoner of Congoloese descent would may have Pili-Pili on their meat and a Londoner of Jamaican descent may have Jerk sauce instead, what is very likely is that they'll both speak a street jungle patois otherwise known as "Multicultural London English". They are more likely to be in a street gang, and they are more likely to be stabbed for the simple fact that they are black Londoners. This is a feral culture that in part has been imported and in part that has developed on London's "Streets".



The number of thanks you got for this post just shows how the urge to be PC and not willing to see the reality has affected so many peoples judgment.

"poor / low socio-economical problem". Well according to Uncle Max this is a problem affecting the entire country. So where are the stabbings on this scale in Bristol or in Sheffield or in Newcastle? Looking further afield what about other capital cities in the Europe with "poor / low socio-economical problems"? Berlin? Madrid? Prague? Warsaw?

I wasting my time though, none of you will see it. Blinded to reality. Laughable. Now back let's get back to the latest dose of innit fam.

Talented young British model is stabbed to death on London street in 'robbery gone wrong'
Are you really Greek? You say you won‘t pretend to know more than you do.

If you’re wasting your time, it begs the question why bother posting?

Ps, I think you misattributed your "according to..." spiel. Sounding a bit RichDoggy with the smarter than thou groove. But please, do go on insulting people who you find laughable.
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And you accuse others of being "blinded to reality". Then again, if you are only reading The Mirror and Daily Mail (judging by your recent links), it kind of explains it.
Deflecting again? That’s new! How about you read the latest statistics on violent crime? 30% year on year increase in knife crime in London.
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Old 12.01.2018, 23:09
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Yes, Londoners. Black Londoners. And this is a part of black London culture. Heritage is secondary as they are born and bred Londoners. Whilst a Londoner of Congoloese descent would may have Pili-Pili on their meat and a Londoner of Jamaican descent may have Jerk sauce instead, what is very likely is that they'll both speak a street jungle patois otherwise known as "Multicultural London English". They are more likely to be in a street gang, and they are more likely to be stabbed for the simple fact that they are black Londoners. This is a feral culture that in part has been imported and in part that has developed on London's "Streets".
Ever been accused of stereotyping? Are you a Londoner? I don't think so.


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The number of thanks you got for this post just shows how the urge to be PC and not willing to see the reality has affected so many peoples judgment.
Thank inferiority complex?

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"poor / low socio-economical problem". Well according to Uncle Max this is a problem affecting the entire country. So where are the stabbings on this scale in Bristol or in Sheffield or in Newcastle? Looking further afield what about other capital cities in the Europe with "poor / low socio-economical problems"? Berlin? Madrid? Prague? Warsaw?
Tiddly populations in comparison. There is a lot of organised crime in London, there is a lot of wealth, there is a lot of poverty. Your point?

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I wasting my time though, none of you will see it. Blinded to reality. Laughable. Now back let's get back to the latest dose of innit fam.
You would probably get a good kicking in some parts of London if you tried to banter the way you do.
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Deflecting again? That’s new! How about you read the latest statistics on violent crime? 30% year on year increase in knife crime in London.
Now if a black fella had done that acid attack, then would you be ranting on about how its the Afro Caribbean community that is responsible for that sort of attack?

A friend of mine was stabbed, he is black and the attacker was white, it was completely unprovoked.
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Deflecting again? That’s new! How about you read the latest statistics on violent crime? 30% year on year increase in knife crime in London.
Not deflecting, more forcing you to look at your own information.

The statistics change according to where you look. Are you only looking at knife crime or violent crime as a whole? Is the knife crime homicide or just being caught with a knife, and everything in between?

Your stats are utterly meaningless and you, just like the tabloids, cherry pick the bits you want to see.
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Now if a black fella had done that acid attack, then would you be ranting on about how its the Afro Caribbean community that is responsible for that sort of attack?
What, like this guy?

No matter what is said, you will never be able to distinguish that “a black gang knife problem” (should have added “youth” originally) doesn’t mean “all black people”. Just like a “radical Islam problem” doesn’t mean “all Muslims”. Which in a nutshell is why people like Trump win elections.
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Old 12.01.2018, 23:25
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What, like this guy?

No matter what is said, you will never be able to distinguish that “a black gang knife problem” (should have added “youth” originally) doesn’t mean “all black people”. Just like a “radical Islam problem” doesn’t mean “all Muslims”. Which in a nutshell is why people like Trump win elections.
"people like Trump win elections" You mean there are more than one of them!! Aaaarrgghh
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You are confusing migrants with refugees?
Refugees flee persecution and violence.
Migrants are simply looking for a life style improvement.
I know, I know, I see all the Eritrians every day on the train all with new iPhones, Nikes, gold chains, etc. In any case, the refugee/migrant line has been blurred a long time ago.

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Anyway that is not the correct way for a country president to describe another country.
I agree. But keep in mind it's not like he stood up on the podium at the UN and said this. This was *allegedly* said behind closed doors during negotiations. His political rivals went running to the news outlets with the quote like throwing raw meat to a lion. If they are really concerned about "embarrassing America" they wouldn't be so fast to air dirty laundry in public, would they?

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Maybe racist is not the best description?
I agree. But the media has gone apeshit with it. And if you don't agree with them, well then, you're a racist yourself
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