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16.01.2018, 22:33
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16.01.2018, 23:01
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Actual question from the Montreal Cognitive Assessment to detect Alzheimer.
President Trump scored a 30/30. This question is worth three of those points.
Correct answer is "Animals my son has shot"
Also healthy eating
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16.01.2018, 23:41
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Joe Biden is a very strong candidate. He has that unpretentious "ordinary Joe" personality, combined with a sharp mind and a detailed understanding of topics. He has the added advantage that he wanted to run against Hillary and can thus benefit from Trump's anti-Hillary rhetoric. His prone-ness to the occasional minor gaffe may also turn out in his favour, as it makes it easier for people to relate to him and see him as one of the people. His weakness is his age. If he serves two terms he'll be 86 at the end of his presidency. | | | | | Just backtracking to this a moment...
If I were American, I'd vote for Biden in a heartbeat. If there were a British candidate of his calibre, I'd vote for them in a heartbeat. He's a grafter and diligent. He's known great personal tragedy and has immense empathy. He has cross party respect. For the more conservative, he has strong religious beliefs and family values. But most of all (for me), he's a good old fashioned 'public servant'. You know that the only reason he's in the politics is that he wants to make a difference for the better. It goes without question and that makes him a rare beast.
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17.01.2018, 01:25
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Nine of the 12 members of the National Park System Advisory Board suddenly quit Monday in protest of how Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke has treated them, according to a new report.
the board hasn’t held a meeting since President Trump took office last January despite the boarding being required by law to meet two times each year.
“We were frozen out,” Board Chairman Knowles told the newspaper. Source | 
17.01.2018, 11:09
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Just backtracking to this a moment...
If I were American, I'd vote for Biden in a heartbeat. If there were a British candidate of his calibre, I'd vote for them in a heartbeat. He's a grafter and diligent. He's known great personal tragedy and has immense empathy. He has cross party respect. For the more conservative, he has strong religious beliefs and family values. But most of all (for me), he's a good old fashioned 'public servant'. You know that the only reason he's in the politics is that he wants to make a difference for the better. It goes without question and that makes him a rare beast. | | | | | Assuming for a moment that the next president will be a Dem ...
There are two scenarios.
Either there will be a recation towards Trump's flambuoyancy, and they will go for somebody with restraint, whose main strenghs lie in understanding the system and doing the job in the most efficient way without drawing unncessary attention or making a show of it. That is Biden.
The other scenario is that they will see that the showmanship and trolling of Trump was actually a good thing in itself, and they will want some left-wing version of Trump to take over. That could be Oprah.
If they want the second option, they need to stop criticizing Trump for being Trump, but focus more on criticizing his policies. If they say that his style is so wrong, that could turn around and hurt their own candidate later.
If they want the first option, then they need to be focussing on discrediting Trump's style. I assume their strategists have already thought this through so their actions may hint at who their favoured candidate will be.
But the, as Trump has shown, a rogue candidate can totally disrupt a primary and wreck all plans.
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17.01.2018, 11:16
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Assuming for a moment that the next president will be a Dem ... | | | | | Do you want to make your country great again or do you want to turn your country into a shithole?
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17.01.2018, 11:18
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Do you want to make your country great again or do you want to turn your country into a shithole? | | | | | To be honest, nothing has changed in that regard. If you're rich, America has always been great, if you are poor, it has always been a shitehole.
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17.01.2018, 11:29
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Trust Trump? A man who tells an average of five lies a day? Right at the start on his inauguration he claimed it did not rain during his speech and he had the largest inauguration crowd.
It is not possible to trust anybody who lies so repeatedly.
Look at the latest furore, they are arguing about did he describe African countries as shithouses or shitholes 
Either term is equally bad.
I assume the media that are claiming Trump asked about these countries "can't we take them out!" are joking  | | | | | Still, it smells like hypocrisy to me. Your average Joe would use the same language if it suited him, yet when Trump speaks like that in a conversation that wasn't even public everybody is up in their arms.
People should be happy with these politicians they created. Just think of it - you know how electoral campaigns are run and by whom, stuff that is in charge with winning it creates a character and a narrative based on what people want to hear. With Trump, my bet is that it was an easy job, Trump was a self-made in this regard.
Edit> there was an article in NYTimes yesterday about a press conference on immigration....which detected a problem of current times - no-one asked about the wall and changes in immigration laws after all, only about the language used by Trump. What can I say, I like his distraction techniques. Once again, stupid he isn't.
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17.01.2018, 11:53
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Assuming for a moment that the next president will be a Dem ... | | | | | The next President will have to...
1. Truly represent the party they are standing for, which has always been a question mark over Trump's head given his strong support for the Dems in the past. There's still a feeling that he's representing himself and his own views which is even antagonist to many Reps.
2. Be an affable, eloquent mediator, capable of getting all sides onboard when emphasing common interests. | Quote: | |  | | | There are two scenarios.
Either there will be a recation towards Trump's flambuoyancy, and they will go for somebody with restraint, whose main strenghs lie in understanding the system and doing the job in the most efficient way without drawing unncessary attention or making a show of it. That is Biden.
The other scenario is that they will see that the showmanship and trolling of Trump was actually a good thing in itself, and they will want some left-wing version of Trump to take over. That could be Oprah. | | | | | Agreed and depending on how the next couple of years pan out, the public will decide. Personally, I think it will be the former. People quickly tire of flambouyancy. It's emotionally, mentally and physically draining to live with on a daily basis.
This is precisely why 'May you always live in interesting times' is seen as a curse and not a blessing. | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | The next President will have to...
1. Truly represent the party they are standing for, which has always been a question mark over Trump's head given his strong support for the Dems in the past. There's still a feeling that he's representing himself and his own views which is even antagonist to many Reps.
2. Be an affable, eloquent mediator, capable of getting all sides onboard when emphasing common interests. | | | | | that's your opinion. not a requirement.
the only requirement is that the next president needs to be elected.
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17.01.2018, 12:11
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | that's your opinion. not a requirement.
the only requirement is that the next president needs to be elected. | | | | | If you want progress, and not constant blocking of all proposed policies, I'd say it's a requirement.
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17.01.2018, 12:17
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A moment of humour.
After Trump's health check up, quite a lot of people people do not believe he is only 239lbs (108.4 kg) so they have started a "girther" movement (following on the birther movement for Obama). Some good postings if you want a laugh. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...al-weight.html
And it seems that he has grown 1 inch (2.54 cm). Must be the new hair-do. | The following 6 users would like to thank Verbier for this useful post: | | 
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| | | Quote: | |  | | | If you want progress, and not constant blocking of all proposed policies, I'd say it's a requirement. | | | | | I'd say it is a good theory. | Quote: | |  | | | that's your opinion. not a requirement.
the only requirement is that the next president needs to be elected. | | | | | It feels great to be sure of something | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | I'm more confused by the stories down the side column of the link. Whatever happened to "Does my bum look big in this?" There's some huge backsides proudly being displayed. | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | A moment of humour.
After Trump's health check up, quite a lot of people people do not believe he is only 239lbs (108.4 kg) so they have started a "girther" movement (following on the birther movement for Obama). Some good postings if you want a laugh. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...al-weight.html
And it seems that he has grown 1 inch (2.54 cm). Must be the new hair-do.  | | | | | With the quoted numbers his BMI is 29.9. 30 is classified as obese; see what difference an inch makes | The following 4 users would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | To be honest, nothing has changed in that regard. If you're rich, America has always been great, if you are poor, it has always been a shitehole. | | | | | Bullshit. A ton of Chineses, Indians, Italians, Jews, Armenians, Persians, Mexicans, Eastern Europeans, etc., arrived poor in the USA and are now rich.
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17.01.2018, 13:20
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Bullshit. A ton of Chineses, Indians, Italians, Jews, Armenians, Persians, Mexicans, Eastern Europeans, etc., arrived poor in the USA and are now rich. | | | | | Bullshit. A GREAT many more haven't. Do we really have to have that discussion again? Fact is, in the more recent past, in the US if you are poor you are very likely to stay that way. Much more likely than in Europe.
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Why do we keep seeing here (in media in general, too) the no-no issues that the pro-pc folk get frequently upset about if it relates to somebody else: fat-shaming Trump, commenting on his many mental illnesses, calling him an idiot, unfit, old (hello agism snowflakes and equal opportunities rioters), looking into his plate, uhm...dyslexia? I might have missed a few. Is it just me who notices this, or "it serves him right". I guess people exclude potus out of their standards on decency if they consider him unworthy. Does it say something about the one who is being judged or about the self proclaimed experts on potus standards.
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17.01.2018, 13:29
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Why do we keep seeing here (in media in general, too) the no-no issues that the pro-pc folk get frequently upset about if it relates to somebody else: fat-shaming Trump, commenting on his many mental illnesses, calling him an idiot, unfit, old (hello agism snowflakes and equal opportunities rioters), looking into his plate, uhm...dyslexia? I might have missed a few. Is it just me who notices this, or "it serves him right". I guess people exclude potus out of their standards on decency if they consider him unworthy. Does it say something about the one who is being judged or about the self proclaimed experts on potus standards. | | | | | I don't think it's anything to do with being PC. People spot bullshit and call it out. Simple as.
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | I'm more confused by the stories down the side column of the link. Whatever happened to "Does my bum look big in this?" There's some huge backsides proudly being displayed.  | | | | | The question is still being asked, only these days the desired answer seems to be "yes"
I can not believe that all details of the medical examination of Trump was publicly read out (by whom - was that the doctor in that video??!!).
I have not seen anything like it with any of our Bundesräte. In fact, I've not seen anything like it with any president in the world.
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