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Bullshit. A ton of Chineses, Indians, Italians, Jews, Armenians, Persians, Mexicans, Eastern Europeans, etc., arrived poor in the USA and are now rich.
So it was a shithole for them when they came poor and for the few that made a mint, now it is nice. For the 99.9% who didn't strike it rich, it is still a shithole. What's so complicated about this to grasp?
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Old 17.01.2018, 14:14
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Bullshit. A ton of Chineses, Indians, Italians, Jews, Armenians, Persians, Mexicans, Eastern Europeans, etc., arrived poor in the USA and are now rich.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Old 17.01.2018, 14:42
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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The question is still being asked, only these days the desired answer seems to be "yes"

I can not believe that all details of the medical examination of Trump was publicly read out (by whom - was that the doctor in that video??!!).
I have not seen anything like it with any of our Bundesräte. In fact, I've not seen anything like it with any president in the world.
That is the US tradition that the details of the medical examination of Trump are read out.
However;
The President has the right to review and censor the report before it is read out, there is no evidence Trump did that.

In JFK's case it was concealed he had Addison's disease and he took painkillers, anti anxiety agents, stimulants and sleeping pills, as well as hormones.

Trump's PSA was 0.12 which is extremely low, usually only that low after Prostate removal as part of Prostate cancer treatment. Possibly a side effect of the Propecia he takes against hair loss.

“Our study shows men who take Propecia can get persistent erectile dysfunction, in which they will not be able to have normal erections for months or years after stopping,” said lead study author Dr. Steven Belknap, a research assistant professor of dermatology at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine.

Having said that Trump takes a very low Propecia daily dose.
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Old 17.01.2018, 14:48
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That is the US tradition that the details of the medical examination of Trump are read out.
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The President has the right to review and censor the report before it is read out, there is no evidence Trump did that.

In JFK's case it was concealed he had Addison's disease and he took painkillers, anti anxiety agents, stimulants and sleeping pills, as well as hormones.

Trump's PSA was 0.12 which is extremely low, usually only that low after Prostate removal as part of Prostate cancer treatment. Possibly a side effect of the Propecia he takes against hair loss.

“Our study shows men who take Propecia can get persistent erectile dysfunction, in which they will not be able to have normal erections for months or years after stopping,” said lead study author Dr. Steven Belknap, a research assistant professor of dermatology at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine.

Having said that Trump takes a very low Propecia daily dose.
See what I mean? None of my business
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Old 17.01.2018, 14:56
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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So it was a shithole for them when they came poor and for the few that made a mint, now it is nice. For the 99.9% who didn't strike it rich, it is still a shithole. What's so complicated about this to grasp?
Precisely. Life has it's twists and turns.

Ex husband's ancester was convicted by Glasgow Parish Council for 'fornicating on a Sunday', did a runner to the U.S., got shipwrecked, went into a very profitable business, took a night off and Lincoln got assassinated, half the family went back to the UK, and he died from a head injury caused by tripping over his wife's dog's lead in Central Park. Them's the breaks...
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Old 17.01.2018, 15:02
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So it was a shithole for them when they came poor and for the few that made a mint, now it is nice. For the 99.9% who didn't strike it rich, it is still a shithole. What's so complicated about this to grasp?
Neverthless, people still keep on coming and keep on wanting to come.

So obviously there are more opportunities than in the countries they are leaving.

If it was just a big scam and propaganda trick, surely word would have got around by now.
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Old 17.01.2018, 15:04
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Bullshit. A ton of Chineses, Indians, Italians, Jews, Armenians, Persians, Mexicans, Eastern Europeans, etc., arrived poor in the USA and are now rich.
Well they will not be arriving any more, only people who score high on merit.

I expect the locals will continue to have little enthusiasm to get jobs toilet cleaning or working in the fields. Probably a fortune to be made by the first person to invent an AI toilet cleaner.
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Old 17.01.2018, 15:16
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Probably a fortune to be made by the first person to invent an AI toilet cleaner.
Too late - already been done

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/s...cleaning-robot
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Old 17.01.2018, 19:27
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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With the quoted numbers his BMI is 29.9. 30 is classified as obese; see what difference an inch makes
Clever how Trump hides he is two inches taller than Obama; 6ft 3in versus 6ft 1.
Trump is probably bending his knees to avoid embarrassing Obama
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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So it was a shithole for them when they came poor and for the few that made a mint, now it is nice. For the 99.9% who didn't strike it rich, it is still a shithole. What's so complicated about this to grasp?
Again, bullshit:

https://mises.org/blog/poor-us-are-r...ss-much-europe

Most importantly, it's much easier to avoid or escape poverty in the USA then in Europe: to join the middle class an American needs just to finish high school, avoid having children out the the wedlock, and not committing crimes:

https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/t...-middle-class/

Also poor people in the US have Medicaid, food stamps, subsidized housing, etc., not much different than in amazing welfare Europe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social..._United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public..._United_States
https://www.cbpp.org/research/variou...sitive-effects
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Again, bullshit:

https://mises.org/blog/poor-us-are-r...ss-much-europe

Most importantly, it's much easier to avoid or escape poverty in the USA then in Europe: to join the middle class an American needs just to finish high school, avoid having children out the the wedlock, and not committing crimes:

https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/t...-middle-class/

Also poor people in the US have Medicaid, food stamps, subsidized housing, etc., not much different than in amazing welfare Europe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social..._United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public..._United_States
https://www.cbpp.org/research/variou...sitive-effects
BS yourself. Tell that to my relatives in the US who did finish high school, didn't have children out of wedlock, commited no crimes and are still just about to make ends meet. Most are long term unemployed so no longer qualify for that and as far as I know don't have their housing subsidized. There's no way they come close to middle class Europeans. And they're not immigrants, but Americans born and bred.

And fyi they've been in that situation for at least 10 years if not more.
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Old 17.01.2018, 22:44
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But most of all (for me), he's a good old fashioned 'public servant'. You know that the only reason he's in the politics is that he wants to make a difference for the better. It goes without question and that makes him a rare beast.
And yet you won’t vote for Corbyn...
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BS yourself. Tell that to my relatives in the US who did finish high school, didn't have children out of wedlock, commited no crimes and are still just about to make ends meet. Most are long term unemployed so no longer qualify for that and as far as I know don't have their housing subsidized. There's no way they come close to middle class Europeans. And they're not immigrants, but Americans born and bred.

And fyi they've been in that situation for at least 10 years if not more.
Well, what do they do for a living? Or better, what they are willing to work with? What are their skills?

I had a Brazilian cleaning lady who was driving a Mercedes, helping relatives, and investing in real estate!

I have a relative married to an American whose family is big and has from Ivy League professors to a high school dropout. Everybody is middle class or better.

Still, after spending some years in various parts of the USA, I realized that I was dumb to believe on this rhetoric that the poor lives much better in Western Europe and that in the USA "they die on the hospital's doors".

I wish your the best for your relatives. With Trump's new tax reform even more jobs will come.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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Again, bullshit:

https://mises.org/blog/poor-us-are-r...ss-much-europe

Most importantly, it's much easier to avoid or escape poverty in the USA then in Europe: to join the middle class an American needs just to finish high school, avoid having children out the the wedlock, and not committing crimes:

https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/t...-middle-class/

Also poor people in the US have Medicaid, food stamps, subsidized housing, etc., not much different than in amazing welfare Europe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social..._United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public..._United_States
https://www.cbpp.org/research/variou...sitive-effects
This is one of the dopiest things I've read in a thread full of dopey posts. I don't even know where to begin, aside from saying that a major factor in Trump's victory was despair and hopelessness among white Americans incapable of upward mobility, the same situation that's been a given for minorities in the US for ages.

You simply have no idea about life in America.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump’s tweeted his FAKE NEWS awards
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I don't even know where to begin, aside from saying that a major factor in Trump's victory was despair and hopelessness among white Americans incapable of upward mobility, the same situation that's been a given for minorities in the US for ages.
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Totally agree with that. You are not the only one who says this - read it a few times from different but quite reliable sources.
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Well, what do they do for a living? Or better, what they are willing to work with? What are their skills?

I had a Brazilian cleaning lady who was driving a Mercedes, helping relatives, and investing in real estate!

I have a relative married to an American whose family is big and has from Ivy League professors to a high school dropout. Everybody is middle class or better.

Still, after spending some years in various parts of the USA, I realized that I was dumb to believe on this rhetoric that the poor lives much better in Western Europe and that in the USA "they die on the hospital's doors".

I wish your the best for your relatives. With Trump's new tax reform even more jobs will come.
I can agree with some parts of your posts. Immigrants first generation in the USA are always very motivated and if they come with at least a good education (minimum high school diploma) they can make it. However, we're talking about millions of millions of born and bred Americans here, and the upward mobility seems pretty low according to stats.

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Neverthless, people still keep on coming and keep on wanting to come.

So obviously there are more opportunities than in the countries they are leaving.

If it was just a big scam and propaganda trick, surely word would have got around by now.
Absolutely. I find a bit silly to vehemently deny that some people do make it there, despite of not being born and bred there. I guess some people are so biased that can't even conceive there's a certain success rate among some groups of immigrants in the USA.
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Well, what do they do for a living? Or better, what they are willing to work with? What are their skills?

I had a Brazilian cleaning lady who was driving a Mercedes, helping relatives, and investing in real estate!

I have a relative married to an American whose family is big and has from Ivy League professors to a high school dropout. Everybody is middle class or better.

Still, after spending some years in various parts of the USA, I realized that I was dumb to believe on this rhetoric that the poor lives much better in Western Europe and that in the USA "they die on the hospital's doors".

I wish your the best for your relatives. With Trump's new tax reform even more jobs will come.
One did work in his parents' jewellery business for a while. Otherwise any work available he'll do. Another has poor health - did work in an insurer's doing office work, but got laid off, tried a cleaning job, but couldn't do it due to health, another has a children's assistant qualification of some kind, still can't find a job.
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