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Old 21.01.2018, 12:05
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Mm, Dubya was bad enough, thanks. Ftw: Idiocracy was on Film4 on Friday night - if replay is an option it‘s a good alternative to EF.
Dubya is a completely different kettle of fish. Like him or loath him, Trump is pure entertainment. 575 pages and still going strong! That book the Fire and Fury came out less than two weeks ago, and already people have moved on from talking about it. This is how it is with Trump and how quickly things move, I doubt we'll see the likes of him again as President (unless of course things have indeed changed for good in US politics). We should enjoy the ride while it lasts.
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And I keep saying that you're Melania's stunt double... the one with the big shades and stubbly top lip who keeps batting his hand out of the way in case he tries to grab you by the pussy and freaks out when your crown jewels get trapped between his stumpy chump fingers.
Been on the sauce again?
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Old 21.01.2018, 13:49
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But is upward mobility better in Europe? Also, what has hindered these people in the USA for upward mobility? Are they willing to move geographically? Have they put efforts on improving their skills?

There are a ton of opportunities and jobs in the USA, proportionally much more than in Europe. But a laid-off coal miner or a history major can't expect upward mobility if they are not willing to do other jobs.
I don't think so. In Europe we can already talk about downward mobility, as most people from Eastern Europe are willing to do the unwanted jobs in the Western part because of the differences in wages.

I agree with the opportunities in the USA, you can't even compare some things. However, please let me remind you that certain groups of immigrants who are now considered successful didn't have it that easy till the last century, so not that long ago - yes, I am talking especially about the Italians here, but also the Chinese, Japanese, Portuguese and similar groups. Let's not forget where we all started from....
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Old 21.01.2018, 14:00
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Mm, Dubya was bad enough, thanks. Ftw: Idiocracy was on Film4 on Friday night - if replay is an option it‘s a good alternative to EF.

If I watched more teli I wouldn't be so darn surprised now?
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Old 21.01.2018, 16:03
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I presented some articles that show some evidences, which obviously I do not think are the absolute truth. Feel free to present your own sources.

And I never said the USA are all roses, on the contrary, there are serious problems. However what I do dispute, with first hand experience, is that notion that poor people do much better in Europe.
What you link is less than useless.

Take that blog for example. It makes its point based on median income in a country with huge income disparity. Now, the poor are by definition the lowest rungs on the income ladder, the bottom 10% or 25%, and way below median. Median income has zero value in this context (except perhaps to determine the poor's distance from said median, but that's not even what the blog is about).

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The data the blog bases its argument on are simply irrelevant thus the argument collapses on its own intellectual dishonesty.
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Old 21.01.2018, 16:15
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Dubya is a completely different kettle of fish. Like him or loath him, Trump is pure entertainment. 575 pages and still going strong!
That's nowt!
The site I used to mod on had a thread about GWB that went over 2,000 pages long just in 2003, but that was before facey b and twatter.

I hated GW in office because the PNAC were pulling the strings. He was the first President where any attempt at disinformation no longer worked because there were online resources to refute it. In more recent interviews, he comes across as a laid back, humourous guy. I'd happily sit and have a chat with him now because there are still details I'd like answers to.
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This is how it is with Trump and how quickly things move, I doubt we'll see the likes of him again as President ....
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Been on the sauce again?
Yup, there was bechamel and tomato sauce in my lasagne. I wish it had been vodka, but I'm way too busy for that.
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Old 21.01.2018, 16:44
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A US high school degree is no longer the ticket for upwards mobility.

A critical factor is the plight of the [US] white blue-collar worker, for whom hopes for making it to a stable, middle-class life have largely disappeared. Link

This is an age of diminished expectations for the [US]working class. Almost all the good jobs created since the recession have gone to college graduates. Link.

Why are white Americans in downwardly mobile areas feeling a despair that appears to be driving stark increases in substance abuse and suicide? Link

This is much worse for people [US white non-Hispanics] who have a high school degree and no B.A. than it is for people with a B.A. Link.
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Old 21.01.2018, 17:25
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

When the Senate voted last Friday on the budget bill that caused the Govt. shutdown the result was 50 yes, 49 no. I assumed that was strictly on Party lines but not; four Republicans voted no (Including GOP majority leader Mitch McConnell) and five Democrats yes.

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Which all makes the current blame game in Washington about whether GOP or Dems were responsible for the Govt. shutdown a bit irrelevant!

I just wonder how many Americans actually care a lot about the Govt. shutdown (excluding Federal employees)? I suppose most services are provided by the States and are not Federal so people would see a minimal impact?

If the Swiss Govt. shut down for some weeks, would I care? Would it impact me?

What do people with better knowledge of the US think?

Could it change how people vote?

Finally a quote from Saturday Night live
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Old 21.01.2018, 18:00
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If the Swiss Govt. shut down for some weeks, would I care? Would it impact me? ....
Nope, I actually think we wouldn't even notice
Maybe because it's we have a plus, so we got money to pay the employees until they agree?

Also the budget is being ping-ponged between Bundesrat - Nationalrat - Ständerat and apparently if there is no agreement, the Bundesrat has to/can pull up a provisional budget.
(Having friendly names for our laws like "Schoggigesetz" for export subsidy might help keeping the spirit up, ROFL).
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Old 21.01.2018, 19:08
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I just wonder how many Americans actually care a lot about the Govt. shutdown (excluding Federal employees)? I suppose most services are provided by the States and are not Federal so people would see a minimal impact?
"Essential' services remain working, those deemed non-essential are furloughed. A summary of what is shut down and what is not:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ment-shutdown/

More details:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...e-effects.html
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Old 21.01.2018, 22:49
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...I just wonder how many Americans actually care a lot about the Govt. shutdown (excluding Federal employees)? I suppose most services are provided by the States and are not Federal so people would see a minimal impact?
Obviously the federal workers are most affected, but there is a ripple effect. For example, when workers stay home they don't buy lattes and lunch. They stop shopping for anything except the basic essentials. They don't need to fill up the gas tank. Nearby shops and restaurants see a dip in their revenues rather quickly if there's a high concentration of federal workers in the area (think most of D.C.).

One of my friends that works for the federal government was scheduled to go to a conference. That is cancelled, which means the airline refunds the money to the feds, the hotel and car rentals don't happen, the restaurants in the area get nothing, etc. etc.

We'll see how long it goes on. I don't even have a guess with this president and WEF thrown in the middle.
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Old 22.01.2018, 10:59
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You’ve got to hand it to Trump. He did say he’d run the US Government like one of his businesses. It’s only taken him a year to shut it down.
As predicted by himself he just keeps on winning. So much so, even his fans grow tired and ask him to stop.
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Old 22.01.2018, 14:07
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When the Senate voted last Friday on the budget bill that caused the Govt. shutdown the result was 50 yes, 49 no. I assumed that was strictly on Party lines but not; four Republicans voted no (Including GOP majority leader Mitch McConnell) and five Democrats yes.

Source

Which all makes the current blame game in Washington about whether GOP or Dems were responsible for the Govt. shutdown a bit irrelevant!

I just wonder how many Americans actually care a lot about the Govt. shutdown (excluding Federal employees)? I suppose most services are provided by the States and are not Federal so people would see a minimal impact?




If the Swiss Govt. shut down for some weeks, would I care? Would it impact me?

What do people with better knowledge of the US think?

Could it change how people vote?

Finally a quote from Saturday Night live
This mother of all fakes is a desperate , republican attempt ,to win votes at the midterm election .

Bill passes congress ,got defeated by one vote in senate on a Saturday ( not too many working on weekends) .Monday morning ,bill passes. everything back to normal ,almost

Blame the whole thing on the democrats and hope the voters falls for it

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Old 22.01.2018, 14:27
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Can anyone explain why they can't just keep going on the current budget figures until they agree on a new one?
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Can anyone explain why they can't just keep going on the current budget figures until they agree on a new one?
Because of how Congress has been running the budget for the past few decades. Every so often they pass a bill that keeps paying the bills a little bit longer. This is a good explanation of the continuing resolutions:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...bills-on-time/
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Old 22.01.2018, 15:06
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can anyone explain why they can't just keep going on the current budget figures until they agree on a new one?
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Old 22.01.2018, 17:24
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

New book by Howard Kurtz book, titled “Media Madness: Donald Trump, The Press, And The War Over The Truth,” will be released on Jan. 29.

Although Kurtz hosts Fox News’s “Media Buzz” it may not be entirely pro-Trump, for example;
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A hallmark of Trump's "Defiance Disorder" came when White House advisers were surprised by Trump's tweet charging the Obama administration with wiretapping Trump Tower.

“Priebus knew the staff would have to fall into line to prove the tweet correct, the opposite of the usual process of vetting proposed pronouncements,” Kurtz wrote in the book.

“Once the president had committed to 140 characters, he was not going to back off.”
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

According to 20min, the POTUS will really come to the WEF in Davos.

Big deal for the WEF.

Now, they just have to manage the snow.
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Old 22.01.2018, 21:36
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According to 20min, the POTUS will really come to the WEF in Davos.

Big deal for the WEF.

Now, they just have to manage the snow.
Now the Govt. shutdown is over the WH announced Trump will visit Davos. They are flying helicopters for him in those giant freight aircraft so snow will not be a problem except he will need orange balls to play in the snow.
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Old 23.01.2018, 09:32
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I thought Phos and/or Loz assured us that Trump would stop bombing brown people?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...es-under-trump
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