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Old 02.02.2018, 10:35
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If Putin is so brilliant at democratic election campaigns, I wonder why he has to arrest his opponents?

We need to find these brilliant Russian trolls so that we can hire them as political consultants for upcoming elections.

The catch 22 here is admission of their existence is admission of the impoverishment of American intellect, and the admission of the illegitimacy of the current president. It's a fool's errand.
The catch 22 actually is denial of their existence means denying the conclusion of all the US intelligence agencies involved.

That would not be a fool's errand it would be a fool's paradise.
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Old 02.02.2018, 10:37
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If Putin is so brilliant at democratic election campaigns, I wonder why he has to arrest his opponents?

We need to find these brilliant Russian trolls so that we can hire them as political consultants for upcoming elections.

The catch 22 here is admission of their existence is admission of the impoverishment of American intellect, and the admission of the illegitimacy of the current president. It's a fool's errand.
Well history has a rather good track record of outing the truth at some point, so I guess time will tell.
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Old 02.02.2018, 16:25
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

OMG, it looks like Trump closed his poll approval gap:
49% Approval, 49% Disapproval

They've thrown just about everything at him, even the FBI, and he's still standing.

Freakin Hell, he's still winning, again and again.

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Old 02.02.2018, 16:48
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They've thrown just about everything at him, even the FBI, and he's still standing.
Not yet, they haven't.
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Old 02.02.2018, 16:50
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Not yet, they haven't.
They've thrown more at him than they have at any previous president, bar the ones who got assasinated.
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Old 02.02.2018, 17:03
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OMG, it looks like Trump closed his poll approval gap:
49% Approval, 49% Disapproval

They've thrown just about everything at him, even the FBI, and he's still standing.

Freakin Hell, he's still winning, again and again.

My immediate reaction was: "I bet that was Rasmussen" and indeed it was. A bit of an outlier, as usual.

Here's a less partisan poll of all the polls, not just the ones that I, or Phos, prefer

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ex_cid=rrpromo
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Old 02.02.2018, 17:04
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They've thrown more at him than they have at any previous president, bar the ones who got assassinated.
There seems to be an awful lot of preparation and discussion.

Trump seems to have thrown more punches at himself than anyone else has.

Assassinating himself would be quite the party piece, though.
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Old 02.02.2018, 18:49
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Well finally "the memo" has been released here.

Seems to be a nothing burger!

It states the FISA warrant to monitor Carter Page's communications was based on the Steele/Fusion GPS dossier, this dossier here states "TRUMP advisor Carter PAGE holds secret meetings in Moscow with SECHIN and senior Kremlin Internal Affairs official"

Guess what; after some investigation it turned out Carter Page did.

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Well finally "the memo" has been released here.
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Just read the memo, is that it? this reeks of desperation.
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Old 02.02.2018, 20:09
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Just read the memo, is that it? this reeks of desperation.
Indeed
One strange part of this memo is it mentions the fact that the FISA application includes Papadopoulos.
The Steele/Fusion GPS dossier does not mention Papadopoulos so it is clear that there were other sources for the FISA application that Nunes fails to identify which weakens his case that it was all based on the dossier!
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Old 02.02.2018, 20:43
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My immediate reaction was: "I bet that was Rasmussen" and indeed it was. A bit of an outlier, as usual.

Here's a less partisan poll of all the polls, not just the ones that I, or Phos, prefer

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ex_cid=rrpromo
Trump's job approval for economy is +7% across an aggregate of polls:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...nomy-6182.html

The theme of economy is a very strong suit. It trumps DACA, immigration, social justice issues, as well as any outrageous meltdowns, celebrity antics or memes.

I'm not sure what the Democrats have to counter this. Jokes and comedy isn't doing it either. If Trump improves the lives of blacks and hispanics, the Democrats might remain out in the wilderness for the duration of two Trump terms.

All this, even with mainstream media, the FBI, DOJ and Washington swamp, and no signs of him losing at all.

Dang, Trump is kicking everybody's butt.
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Old 02.02.2018, 20:53
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

This nothing burger is turning into a Nunes ham handed own goal.

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), the chairman of the House Oversight Committee, said Friday that the release of a controversial memo by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee does not discredit or undermine special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election "in any way"!

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That’s it? Dishonest and misleading memo wrecked the House Intel committee, destroyed trust with Intelligence Community, damaged relationship with FISA court, and inexcusably exposed classified investigation of an American citizen. For what? DOJ & FBI must keep doing their jobs.
According to the memo released Friday by House Intelligence Committee Republicans the FBI's counterintelligence investigation into whether Trump campaign officials had improper contacts with Russia was triggered by information the bureau obtained about George Papadopoulos, a former adviser to the campaign,

Allies of President Trump have claimed the Russia probe began with the so-called Steele dossier that was paid for in part by Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee (DNC).

But the memo states that FBI opened the investigation in July 2016 based on "information" about Papadapoulos, rather than the dossier.
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Old 02.02.2018, 21:22
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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With 3.5 million Americans receiving bonuses or other benefits from their employers as a result of TAX CUTS, 2018 is off to great start!
✅Unemployment rate at 4.1%.
✅Average earnings up 2.9% in the last year.
✅200,000 new American jobs.
✅#MAGA🇺🇸
Sounds good but Trump seems to have given up that dangerous course of claiming credit for Stock Exchange rises.

Possibly due to the US Exchanges crashing this week; Dow already down 1,000+ points this week; worst week for two years.
Mainly due to inflation fears based on "Average earnings up 2.9%"!
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Old 03.02.2018, 00:43
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Trump's job approval for economy is +7% across an aggregate of polls:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...nomy-6182.html

The theme of economy is a very strong suit. It trumps DACA, immigration, social justice issues, as well as any outrageous meltdowns, celebrity antics or memes.

I'm not sure what the Democrats have to counter this. Jokes and comedy isn't doing it either. If Trump improves the lives of blacks and hispanics, the Democrats might remain out in the wilderness for the duration of two Trump terms.

All this, even with mainstream media, the FBI, DOJ and Washington swamp, and no signs of him losing at all.

Dang, Trump is kicking everybody's butt.
Economy? You do know the US stock markets had their worst week for over two years?
The Dow Jones hit 26,600 on Monday and finished today at 25,500
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Old 03.02.2018, 11:12
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When the market drops suddenly like that, it means some have raked in profits. Its a good thing. We need those market drop corrections to signal even more buys.

I read something like $7 or $8 trillion have been added to the stock market since Trump took office and strings of record breaking growth in the past year.

Phew, imagine the inverse effect of this without Trump. If Hillary Clinton would have been elected, the only thing we would see growing exponential are tax rates, government programs and the number of Americans in poverty.

We are so grateful to have dodged a bullet and Trump got election.

MAGA!
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When the market drops suddenly like that, it means some have raked in profits. Its a good thing. We need those market drop corrections to signal even more buys.

I read something like $7 or $8 trillion have been added to the stock market since Trump took office and strings of record breaking growth in the past year.

Phew, imagine the inverse effect of this without Trump. If Hillary Clinton would have been elected, the only thing we would see growing exponential are tax rates, government programs and the number of Americans in poverty.

We are so grateful to have dodged a bullet and Trump got election.

MAGA!
US stock futures are pointing down again today; looks like more people will be raking in profits.

Whether this is just a short term drop or long term correction waits to be seen.

If Hillary Clinton had been voted in then, like Trump, she would have benefited from the sound economy handed over by Obama and seen the same continued growth as in Obama's time
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Old 03.02.2018, 11:30
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When the market drops suddenly like that, it means some have raked in profits. Its a good thing. We need those market drop corrections to signal even more buys.

I read something like $7 or $8 trillion have been added to the stock market since Trump took office and strings of record breaking growth in the past year.

Phew, imagine the inverse effect of this without Trump. If Hillary Clinton would have been elected, the only thing we would see growing exponential are tax rates, government programs and the number of Americans in poverty.

We are so grateful to have dodged a bullet and Trump got elected.

MAGA!
The slightly creepy sycophancy building up through the thread to this faintly orgasmic post would probably make even Trump himself go off for a shower, and start looking over his shoulder in fear of the weird guy in Switzerland.

I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for the guy now. It's not many steps off a pit in the ground, a bottle of moisturiser and a basket on a rope.
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The slightly creepy sycophancy building up through the thread to this faintly orgasmic post
Interesting. My impression was that we've had full-on sycophancy from day one .
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Interesting. My impression was that we've had full-on sycophancy from day one .
Not sure sycophancy is entirely the correct word.

Anybody who believes Hillary would have increased taxes in spite of a GOP Senate and House has a more serious condition
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Not sure sycophancy is entirely the correct word.

Anybody who believes Hillary would have increased taxes in spite of a GOP Senate and House has a more serious condition
Hillary stated it was her mission to raise taxes.

It doesn't seem like anyone on this thread understands what is going on in the US. Consider it a public service on my part. Its just so fun to show you guys how wrong you are. It's been over a year now, and you're still wrong.

You might get it someday.
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