Will Trump be a Good President? - Page 586

kriss kross · #**11701** 03.02.2018, 17:48

	Quote:	marton
	Economy? You do know the US stock markets had their worst week for over two years? The Dow Jones hit 26,600 on Monday and finished today at 25,500

Thanks Obama

marton · #**11702** 03.02.2018, 18:03

	Quote:	kriss kross
	Thanks Obama

Markets fell by more points last Friday than they lost on Black Monday

marton · #**11703** 03.02.2018, 18:05

	Quote:	Phos
	Hillary stated it was her mission to raise taxes. It doesn't seem like anyone on this thread understands what is going on in the US. Consider it a public service on my part. Its just so fun to show you guys how wrong you are. It's been over a year now, and you're still wrong. You might get it someday.

Unfortunately like most public services it is cr#p

kriss kross · #**11704** 03.02.2018, 18:13

	Quote:	Phos
	It doesn't seem like anyone on this thread understands what is going on in the US. Consider it a public service on my part. Its just so fun to show you guys how wrong you are. It's been over a year now, and you're still wrong. You might get it someday.

To be fair though, due to the nature of EF, there is almost bound to be a level of cosmopolitan bias; such people will never understand Trump's agenda nor the people that support it.

edot · #**11705** 03.02.2018, 19:01

	Quote:	Phos
	Hillary stated it was her mission to raise taxes. It doesn't seem like anyone on this thread understands what is going on in the US. Consider it a public service on my part. Its just so fun to show you guys how wrong you are. It's been over a year now, and you're still wrong. You might get it someday.

No, what you see going on in the US through your lens is a lot different from what I see. We talk to different people, look at different metrics. Don’t presume everyone here is clueless. But, there are a lot of different perspectives. I don’t think you’re necessarily right, either. Arrogant, perhaps. But do carry on.

marton · #**11706** 03.02.2018, 20:00

	Quote:	kriss kross
	To be fair though, due to the nature of EF, there is almost bound to be a level of cosmopolitan bias; such people will never understand Trump's agenda nor the people that support it.

But Trump's agenda is extremely clearly presented - MAGA (Make America Great Again) so it is very easy for us EFers to understand.

So Trump has now completed his first year as US President and we are all interested to know how far along is his realization of his MAGA target.

Now we run into the problem that MAGA (like most political slogans) is unfortunately, or cleverly, not defined, so how do measure it?

To give a silly example; my goal is to plant 100 rows of seed potatoes in a field in one month. After two weeks I can visit the field, count the rows planted and know how far along to the target of 100 I am.

marton · #**11707** 03.02.2018, 20:10

	Quote:	Phos
	Hillary stated it was her mission to raise taxes. It doesn't seem like anyone on this thread understands what is going on in the US. Consider it a public service on my part. Its just so fun to show you guys how wrong you are. It's been over a year now, and you're still wrong. You might get it someday.

Problem is that we do understand what is going on on the US.

The US President does not accept he is the President of all Americans, he foments divisions, supports White Supremacists, seeks confrontation not diplomacy, attacks and discredits the legal institutions he owns all to increase his support from the "deplorables".

This is not the path to MAGA

marton · #**11708** 03.02.2018, 20:39

	Quote:
	Donald J. Trump‏@realDonaldTrump This memo totally vindicates “Trump” in probe. But the Russian Witch Hunt goes on and on. Their was no Collusion and there was no Obstruction (the word now used because, after one year of looking endlessly and finding NOTHING, collusion is dead). This is an American disgrace! 6:40 AM - 3 Feb 2018

Positive interpretation of this tweet is that Trump has accepted the probe will continue and he cannot stop it

marton · #**11709** 03.02.2018, 20:54

Paul Ryan is the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives since 2015.

Who needs an opposition when the GOP incumbents are so clueless?

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This is the same GOP who are running ads complaining about Pelosi who has said that the middle class is getting crumbs from tax reform compared to the "bonanza" that shareholders are receiving.

Blueangel · #**11710** 03.02.2018, 22:37

	Quote:	kriss kross
	To be fair though, due to the nature of EF, there is almost bound to be a level of cosmopolitan bias; such people will never understand Trump's agenda nor the people that support it.

Piggin' hell! We're cosmopolitan now!

Can tell kk has never been to my neck of the woods in the UK

robBob · #**11711** 04.02.2018, 08:42

No comment: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.630ef89eca88

Phos · #**11712** 04.02.2018, 11:37

	Quote:	Sandgrounder
	The slightly creepy sycophancy building up through the thread to this faintly orgasmic post would probably make even Trump himself go off for a shower, and start looking over his shoulder in fear of the weird guy in Switzerland. I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for the guy now. It's not many steps off a pit in the ground, a bottle of moisturiser and a basket on a rope.

This is deranged. It fits the characteristics of a mental health issue on an epidemic scale.

It is part tragic, part funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_idhCca2XM

Phos · #**11713** 04.02.2018, 11:46

	Quote:	kriss kross
	To be fair though, due to the nature of EF, there is almost bound to be a level of cosmopolitan bias; such people will never understand Trump's agenda nor the people that support it.

The fun part is the widening gap between between the deranged perspectives and Trump's progress. It is diverging further and further apart.

I think it is headed for an epic catharsis, which will be phenomenal to watch.

My bet is on Trump. I believe he will beat this too.

MAGA!

Phos · #**11714** 04.02.2018, 12:16

	Quote:	edot
	No, what you see going on in the US through your lens is a lot different from what I see. We talk to different people, look at different metrics. Don’t presume everyone here is clueless. But, there are a lot of different perspectives. I don’t think you’re necessarily right, either. Arrogant, perhaps. But do carry on.

I think I am intentionally trying to over-represent the under-represented. I know a lot of people from a wide cross section of the country, from coast to coast and in between. A LOT of Americans support Trump's agenda, much more than how it is represented in mainstream media. The misrepresentation by news media is the biggest story here. If we held elections today, he would win again.

Its is very interesting to watch him dismantle his opponents. He's taken on humungous institutions, and continues to beat them. I tend to root for the underdog, which is clearly Trump in this situation.

Trump is freakin performing heroically and winning.

And trust me, I do realize that peeves people to no end.

	Quote:	marton
	Problem is that we do understand what is going on on the US. The US President does not accept he is the President of all Americans, he foments divisions, supports White Supremacists, seeks confrontation not diplomacy, attacks and discredits the legal institutions he owns all to increase his support from the "deplorables". This is not the path to MAGA

Marton, you clearly watch and read a lot of news, but I don't see you really understand the US. I doubt if you've ever even been there, nor get to know a wide cross section of the country.

Blueangel · #**11715** 04.02.2018, 12:26

	Quote:	Phos
	I tend to root for the underdog, which is clearly Trump in this situation... ...And trust me, I do realize that peeves people to no end.

'The underdog President'! Freakin' hell! That's a concept and a half...

If you genuinely believe he was the underdog at any stage in the process, I believe you would have put your 'X' by his name on a ballot paper, but seeing as you didn't.....

And I seriously doubt that you peeve anyone here. More a comical sideshow than anything else. “Empty vessels make the most noise”

edot · #**11716** 04.02.2018, 12:54

	Quote:	Phos
	I think I am intentionally trying to over-represent the under-represented. I know a lot of people from a wide cross section of the country, from coast to coast and in between. A LOT of Americans support Trump's agenda, much more than how it is represented in mainstream media. The misrepresentation by news media is the biggest story here. If we held elections today, he would win again. Its is very interesting to watch him dismantle his opponents. He's taken on humungous institutions, and continues to beat them. I tend to root for the underdog, which is clearly Trump in this situation. Trump is freakin performing heroically and winning. And trust me, I do realize that peeves people to no end.

I know a lot of people too. All sorts.

Trump is winning if you‘re a 1%er, with loads of stock options.

Meanwhile, people are struggling big time and, as an example bridges and roads are in shit shape. Where is the freakin infrastructure assistance to put the US back together and people to work?

Lots of empty promises from the man.

marton · #**11717** 04.02.2018, 13:45

	Quote:	Phos
	Marton, you clearly watch and read a lot of news, but I don't see you really understand the US. I doubt if you've ever even been there, nor get to know a wide cross section of the country.

Wrong again

Worked for US companies for many years, often been to East Coast, West Coast and many stations in-between.

Met many people including those who have never seen an ocean or owned a passport.

Just for you Phos amongst my US friends is a rabid Trump supporter who circulated this yesterday.

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You could well be correct Phos that Trump is voted in for a second term; depends how many swing voters remain convinced!

marton · #**11718** 04.02.2018, 14:23

Alec Baldwin as Trump in Saturday Night Live yesterday sitting in bed eating a Mac egg muffin and getting his Intelligence briefing from Fox News.

Meanwhile Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) said during an interview airing Sunday that the previously classified memo alleging abuse of government surveillance powers by the Justice Department has no impact on the ongoing Russia probe.

Gowdy was the one nominated by the House Intelligence committee to actually read all the classified source documents so he is best placed to comment.

Source

Thus refuting the recent comments of President Trump, who claimed the memo "totally vindicates" him in the Russia probe.

Lucky for Gowdy he is not standing for reelection in 2018 so has little to fear from the wrath of Trump

cannut · #**11719** 04.02.2018, 15:59

	Quote:	kriss kross
	To be fair though, due to the nature of EF, there is almost bound to be a level of cosmopolitan bias; such people will never understand Trump's agenda nor the people that support it.

You right

http://www.englishforum.ch/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Verbier · #**11720** 04.02.2018, 16:26

An interesting overview/opinion piece on the situation in the Toronto Star by Tony Burman, former head of Al Jazeera English and CBC News.

"Under pressure, Trump prepares for war

With Robert Mueller's Russia investigation closing in, President Donald Trump targets his enemies — at home and abroad."

Link:

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star...s-for-war.html