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Old 18.02.2018, 18:41
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump seems to be in major melt down.

18 tweets in the last 24 hours

13 about Russia and only one about the Florida shooting.

Every tweet looking backwards, not one tweet with any sort of next steps like a promise, commitment, idea or strategy about tackling the major problems on Trump's desk
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Old 18.02.2018, 18:47
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

There's something grossly inappropriate about the photo on Trump's twitter of him with the Broward County Sheriff's Dept. Perhaps it's the beaming grins. Almost as if they'd forgotten why they were there in the first place.
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Old 18.02.2018, 19:38
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Trump: FBI 'spending too much time' on Russia inquiry and missed Florida shooter signs

The president’s attempt to use the shooting to make a political point about the Russia inquiries drew swift criticism

Donald Trump has criticized the FBI for missing the “many signals” about the Florida school shooter, saying the agency was spending “too much time” trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign.

The US president’s attempt to use the shooting to make a political point about the FBI’s Russia inquiries into the Trump campaign drew swift criticism, including from John Kasich, the Republican governor of Ohio, who told CNN it was an “absurd statement”.

Trump, who the National Rifle Association (NRA) helped elect, made the comments as he faced demands for action on gun control, including from the teenage survivors of America’s latest school massacre.

Thousands of protesters at state rallies this weekend demanded an immediate response from lawmakers in the wake of Wednesday’s attack that left 17 victims dead at a high school in Parkland, Florida on Wednesday.

On Saturday at a rally in Fort Lauderdale, teenage survivors criticized politicians for taking donations from the NRA. “Shame on you”, said one student, Emma Gonzalez.

Trump, who the NRA spent spent more than $30m helping elect, has said little on gun control following the attack beyond a tweet late Saturday asking why Democrats didn’t pass legislation in the Obama administration, and has instead focussed on the mental health of the suspect, Nikolas Cruz.

On Twitter, Trump referenced the FBI’s admission on Friday that it failed to investigate a specific report in January that Cruz could be plotting a school shooting.

“Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is no acceptable,” tweeted Trump. He accused the FBI of “spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the 2016 Trump campaign”.

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Survivors intend to march on Washington on 24th March to demand action.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43105701

Politicians will nod sagely, say we'll do something soon and then go back to sleep on the issue. Nothing will change because they don't want it to change.
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Old 18.02.2018, 19:51
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When you consider the only piece of Trump legislation about gun control was HJ Resolution 40.
This repealed an Obama-era rule that would have added thousands of mentally ill US citizens to a database preventing them buying firearms you realise how weak is the ground Trump stands on
To offer a counter-point, many disability advocates wanted Trump's action. They felt/feel it's offensive to classify everyone with a mental illness as potentially violent and that a database is infringing on their rights.

They've got a point, but then what's the answer to prevent people with mental illness from obtaining guns?
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Old 18.02.2018, 20:55
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To offer a counter-point, many disability advocates wanted Trump's action. They felt/feel it's offensive to classify everyone with a mental illness as potentially violent and that a database is infringing on their rights.

They've got a point, but then what's the answer to prevent people with mental illness from obtaining guns?
It seems like mental illness is a bit of a red herring in the gun debate, out of 235 mass killings only 22% could be considered to have some component of mental illness and when looking at seriously mental ill (e.g. schizophrenic) the number is 1%. For me there is a distinction between personality disorders and mental illness, and the data indicates that the former is a bigger contributor to these mass killings than mental illness.
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Old 18.02.2018, 21:29
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It seems like mental illness is a bit of a red herring in the gun debate, out of 235 mass killings only 22% could be considered to have some component of mental illness and when looking at seriously mental ill (e.g. schizophrenic) the number is 1%. For me there is a distinction between personality disorders and mental illness, and the data indicates that the former is a bigger contributor to these mass killings than mental illness.
I agree with you but this is a thread about Trump.
The Trump who claimed the Florida shooter was mentally disturbed and the same Trump who cancelled the law stopping mentally disabled people from buying guns.
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So many signs that the Florida shooter was mentally disturbed, even expelled from school for bad and erratic behavior. Neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. Must always report such instances to authorities, again and again!

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Old 19.02.2018, 15:27
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Oprah Winfrey as a candidate for president. They are really sick in USA!
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Old 19.02.2018, 15:46
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I agree with you but this is a thread about Trump.
The Trump who claimed the Florida shooter was mentally disturbed and the same Trump who cancelled the law stopping mentally disabled people from buying guns.
In all reality, HJ Resolution 40 would not have prevented this incident, as the suspect (although obviously mentally unwell) does not meet requirements of section 12.00 of the Listing of Impairments.
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Old 19.02.2018, 15:49
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In all reality, HJ Resolution 40 would not have prevented this incident, as the suspect (although obviously mentally unwell) does not meet requirements of section 12.00 of the Listing of Impairments.
Wanna bet Trump doesn't know that?
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It seems like mental illness is a bit of a red herring in the gun debate, out of 235 mass killings only 22% could be considered to have some component of mental illness and when looking at seriously mental ill (e.g. schizophrenic) the number is 1%. For me there is a distinction between personality disorders and mental illness, and the data indicates that the former is a bigger contributor to these mass killings than mental illness.
Wonder if the NRA will be sponsoring research to conclude that mental illness is indeed the culprit.
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Old 19.02.2018, 16:01
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

There is a Presidents’ Day sale on bump stocks, the device the Las Vegas shooter put on his rifles [to turn them into automatic weapons].
Slide Fire Solutions, a bump stocks manufacturer, is offering 10% off with the coupon code MAGA.

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Old 19.02.2018, 16:24
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There is a Presidents’ Day sale on bump stocks, the device the Las Vegas shooter put on his rifles [to turn them into automatic weapons].
Slide Fire Solutions, a bump stocks manufacturer, is offering 10% off with the coupon code MAGA.

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It's a sellout, I'm sure. "S' hätt solang's hätt" before it will never be produced again

I might have to consider unsuscribing from this thread for health reasons soon as I do get phisically sick from some of the information I read here.
I know, the totally wrong reaction but FFS ..... !
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Old 19.02.2018, 17:37
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Former Trump aide Richard Gates to plead guilty, agrees to testify against Manafort.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...218-story.html

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A former top aide to Donald Trump's presidential campaign will plead guilty to fraud-related charges within days — and has made clear to prosecutors that he would testify against Paul Manafort, the lawyer-lobbyist who once managed the campaign.

The change of heart by Trump's former deputy campaign manager Richard Gates, who had pleaded not guilty after being indicted in October on charges similar to Manafort's, was described in interviews by people familiar with the case.
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Old 19.02.2018, 19:02
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An interesting opinion piece "Robert Mueller Has Trump Cornered" picking up after the latest Russian indictments.

Link: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b004fc31939016
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Former Trump aide Richard Gates to plead guilty, agrees to testify against Manafort.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...218-story.html
Question is will that be sufficient to turn Manafort into cooperating with the FBI!

For around three months Manafort was Trump's campaign manager and during that time attended the meeting with Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya and several others at Trump Tower.

Could be Manafort would have an interesting story to tell?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The New York Daily News rips President Trump with its Tuesday cover for golfing near Mar-a-Lago while funerals for those killed in the Florida high school shooting were taking place just miles away.

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Trump who heavily criticised Obama for playing golf during his presidency has himself played golf far more often. As of Jan. 19, 2018, the score of confirmed golf outings is Trump 44, Obama 29.

We should be grateful as it keeps him away from his tweet machine.
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The New York Daily News rips President Trump with its Tuesday cover for golfing near Mar-a-Lago while funerals for those killed in the Florida high school shooting were taking place just miles away.

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It's almost like they're just reaching to try and criticize Trump for anything!
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It's almost like they're just reaching to try and criticize Trump for anything!
They don't need to try.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The Justice Department is creating a Cyber-Digital Task Force to examine outside attempts to interfere with U.S. elections, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced Tuesday.

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Small step in the right direction; they just need to get Trump in the boat.

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Special counsel Robert Mueller charges lawyer with lying about interaction with Rick Gates

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Hopefully will be a wake up call to the many lawyers involved in this.

Donald Trump Jr. is expected to deliver a speech this week on Indo-Pacific relations at a business summit in India with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi

The State Department on Tuesday distanced itself from Donald Trump Jr.'s trip to India, assuring reporters that he is traveling as a private citizen and that the agency played no role in shaping his message during the visit.
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Old 20.02.2018, 22:32
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The Justice Department is creating a Cyber-Digital Task Force to examine outside attempts to interfere with U.S. elections, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced Tuesday.

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Small step in the right direction; they just need to get Trump in the boat.....
Why? Because of Trumps outstanding analytical abilities?
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