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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

An interesting story a few months in the making...

A couple months ago McClatchyDC broke a story that the National Rifle Association (NRA) is currently under FBI investigation for money laundering campaign contributions from a Russian oligarch to the Trump campaign. The NRA donated $30 million to the Trump campaign mostly from non-disclosed donors...

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The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency, two sources familiar with the matter have told McClatchy.

FBI counterintelligence investigators have focused on the activities of Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank who is known for his close relationships with both Russian President Vladimir Putin and the NRA, the sources said.
NPR flushed out the details of NRA's longstanding ties with Russian "politician" (read: oligarch) Alexander Torshin. Using his NRA contacts Torshin even volunteered as an election monitor in the 2012 presidential election.

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A prominent Kremlin-linked Russian politician has methodically cultivated ties with leaders of the National Rifle Association and documented efforts in real time over six years to leverage those connections and gain deeper access into American politics, NPR has learned.

Russian politician Alexander Torshin said his ties to the NRA provided him access to Donald Trump — and the opportunity to serve as a foreign election observer in the United States during the 2012 election.
Today, the NRA acknowledged that it receives foreign funds but claims they are not spent on elections - which would be illegal - and claim that none came from Russian associates. But, they do acknowledge moving money between accounts that involve election contributions and did not provide details on how they ensure money isn't illegally contributed towards elections.

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While the NRA claims it does not receive foreign money for election purposes, the movement of its money between accounts could make it difficult, if not impossible, to track how the money is spent since it is not isolated or sequestered.

The NRA has a variety of accounts, and the NRA Political Victory Fund is their official political action committee and must report all of its spending to the Federal Election Commission.

It also has other accounts that require less transparency, and do not report spending to the FEC — and in those funds, the NRA told Wyden, they "receive funds from foreign persons only for purposes not connected to elections, as permitted by federal law."
This is all so very, very sketchy... at the very least shows how election laws in the US are a total joke. The NRA is most probably violating election law, and is possibly tied up in the Trump/Russia drama.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Poll: Trump's approval rating highest in nearly a year

He can't be stopped!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

From the same article...

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Monday's CNN poll found 63 percent of Americans said they believe the women, while 21 percent said they believe Trump's denials of those affairs.
The poll of 1,014 adults had a margin of error of 3.7 percentage points.

I refer you to post #12358
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For the first time in months Trump posted about the Stock market

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Great news! #MAGA
BREAKING: Dow posts third best one-day point gain ever http://cnb.cx/2G6ga8Y
1:29 PM - 26 Mar 2018
Ironically the improvement was because investors believe the result of Trump's announcement about import tariffs will not be enough to create a trade war
Dow crashed ca. 350 points to below 24,000 again today.

I forecast it will bounce around a lot more up and down over the next few weeks, could make a fortune if one could forecast the changes
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I refer you to post #12358

Well, I think everybody pretty much knew what kind of cookie Trump was when they voted him in.
He's on his 3rd wive and wasn't generally known as being an ascetic monk other than not smoking and drinking alcohol.

So he crossed "getting carnal with a porn-star" off his bucket list.
Millions of pornhub users will shrug that off (and re-watch her videos).

And a lot of women are probably secretly jealous of the porn-star because she cashed in on the NDA and will now still make money of the story in addition to that - and they'd do they same if they were in the position to do so.

And then there's those who still think he's some kind of saint....

Oh well, at least the US will go down with a great show.
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Personally, I find her not at all attractive.

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Personally, I find her not at all attractive.

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Me too. And I think the same of Trump's (current) wife, Melania. Both have somewhat harsh countenances (although at least Ms Clifford smiles, in fact quite often).

Now I think of it, I don't find any of Trump's wives attractive. Karen McDougal, on the other hand...
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And a lot of women are probably secretly jealous of the porn-star because she cashed in on the NDA and will now still make money of the story in addition to that - and they'd do they same if they were in the position to do so.
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I mean, he did get a lot of women's votes simply because they somehow hated Hillary even more than him.

They could have voted for some of the other candidates, even the female one.

So, he must have something that makes women say "He's not an overall bad guy, I'll vote for him".
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I mean, he did get a lot of women's votes simply because they somehow hated Hillary even more than him.

They could have voted for some of the other candidates, even the female one.

So, he must have something that makes women say "He's not an overall bad guy, I'll vote for him".
Keep in mind also that the Dems seriously mistreated Bernie, and large numbers of Bernie supporters refused to vote for Clinton. They might not have voted for Trump, but large numbers were prepared to vote against Clinton, if they bothered to vote at all.

As for the affairs, I'm sort of...meh. Who cares if he had consensual sex with women and paid them off. He's a businessman, it was (for him and maybe also for the women) a business transaction.

The only point where I think there's a problem and courts should be involved is if he violated campaign finance law.
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The only point where I think there's a problem and courts should be involved is if he violated campaign finance law.
He probably did violate campaign laws. At least a functioning justice system would indict him. They did indict John Edwards in a similar case. https://www.cnbc.com/id/43266971

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The indictment said the payments were a scheme to protect Edwards' White House ambitions. "A centerpiece of Edwards' candidacy was his public image as a devoted family man," the indictment said.


"Edwards knew that public revelation of the affair and the pregnancy would destroy his candidacy by, among other things, undermining Edwards' presentation of himself as a family man and by forcing his campaign to divert personnel and resources away from other campaign activities to respond to criticism and media scrutiny regarding the affair and pregnancy," the indictment added.
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So, he must have something that makes women say "He's not an overall bad guy, I'll vote for him".
I wouldn't underestimate the number of single issue voters. If you only cared about tax cuts or limiting access to abortion he was your only candidate...
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Keep in mind also that the Dems seriously mistreated Bernie, and large numbers of Bernie supporters refused to vote for Clinton. They might not have voted for Trump, but large numbers were prepared to vote against Clinton, if they bothered to vote at all.

As for the affairs, I'm sort of...meh. Who cares if he had consensual sex with women and paid them off. He's a businessman, it was (for him and maybe also for the women) a business transaction.

The only point where I think there's a problem and courts should be involved is if he violated campaign finance law.

Ah, yes. The thing with Bernie...
That'll haunt the Democratic Party for a long time.
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Me too. And I think the same of Trump's (current) wife, Melania.

Now I think of it, I don't find any of Trump's wives attractive.
How would you rate Michelle Obama?
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How would you rate Michelle Obama?
And the relevance of that question is...? What about Mary Todd Lincoln? Mamie Eisenhower? Abigail Adams?

We're talking about Trump here.
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And the relevance of that question is...? What about Mary Todd Lincoln? Mamie Eisenhower? Abigail Adams?

We're talking about Trump here.
No, you're talking about his wife - rating her appearance, as it were.

If you don't want to or cannot do the same for Michelle Obama though it's fine.
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And the relevance of that question is...? What about Mary Todd Lincoln? Mamie Eisenhower? Abigail Adams?

We're talking about Trump here.
Well, you know these Trumposexuals, when there's nothing good to say about the man himself, they always fall back on the "whataboutobama" gambit. Bless their cotton socks, they can't help it.
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Well, you know these Trumposexuals, when there's nothing good to say about the man himself, they always fall back on the "whataboutobama" gambit. Bless their white cotton socks, they can't help it.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

"The poll of 1,014 adults had a margin of error of 3.7 percentage points." Oops, missed blueangel already made the same point.

As usual, for a less overexcited point of view see Nate Silver's poll of polls:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/

The situation is stable. For now :-).
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I mean, he did get a lot of women's votes simply because they somehow hated Hillary even more than him.
I'll keep saying this til my dying day...

The secrecy of the ballot box means that we only have assumptions who voted for who by age or gender. If an electoral area knows that of the people who voted, 50% were women and 50% were men, and the winning candidate had 48% of the vote, it is a possibility (no matter how remote) that their votes came entirely from either gender.

I don't care that Trump had sex with a porn star. Watching her interview, I was struck by how entirely plausible she was, and by how she admitted she got herself into the situation and said it was consentual. Credit to her for that.

As a woman, he's been unfaithful. Quelle surprise!
He's been unfaithful in the days immediately following the birth of his son. That's such a disgusting betrayal. Lower than a snake's belly.

This 'affair' didn't happen whilst he was in office, so it's irrelevant. He hasn't laid himself open to blackmail whilst in a position where it could compromise security, which was the whole premise of the Profumo Affair.
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