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Old 29.03.2018, 18:03
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You mean Jerry Hall is humiliated too? Yuck...having a shuddering attack at the thought of her husband. If she's a gold digger "she deserves all those money"....
I'm not aware of any allegations of infidelity on the part of Jerry Hall's husband (if he's even capable), but anway you reminded me of the following meme that Trumpanzees trotted out a while ago in support of their Dear Leader:



This really goes a long way toward demonstrating the stupidity and gullibility of Trump's acolytes.

Murdoch is 15 years older than Trump (and by the way, with more than $15 billion today, worth five times as much). When Trump was "just starting to build his empire" at the age of 25, Murdoch was already 40 and extremely wealthy, having built a huge media empire almost from scratch (starting with one newspaper in Adelaide, South Australia, in 1952). He was no paper boy selling newspapers from a newsstand in New York. In fact, he didn't even move to the US until 1974.

Murdoch was rubbing shoulders with Kennedy in 1961 while Trump was still in short trousers:



So no, I wouldn't believe that "that boy was Rupert Murdoch".

Now, I'm not saying that anybody on EF would be stupid enough to believe this sort of blatant, fallacious propaganda, but I'll bet I wouldn't have to look far to find some true Trump believers here who are only too happy to suspend common sense and logic as they worship their Dear Leader.
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Old 29.03.2018, 18:40
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The only time I've seen that woman look really happy and properly laughing, is when she was at the opening ceremony of the Invictus Games alongside Prince Harry.
She looked happy at this event:


and at her husband's inauguration:


and on their wedding day:


I wonder if part of it is that for during her modeling career she often had to be making sultry, pouty faces. She wasn't always the happy, smiley model. So her "normal" look is sort of sour because she's trained it to be that way over the years. It also looks like she's had some cosmetic surgery that makes her eyes look like she squints all the time.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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She looked happy at this event:
Melania: "Do you know your face is *really* orange"
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and at her husband's inauguration:
Melania: "Are we still on for tonight?, he'll be in bed tweeting by 6"

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and on their wedding day:
Melania: Money money money
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Old 29.03.2018, 19:29
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

To be the 1st Lady is a job. Not sure if every one of us would grin wide on all possible photos if paparazzis were onto us 24/7.

She looks sincere most of the time. But maybe the dry/sincere thing is EE, not sure. Wasn't she a flight attendant longer than a model, btw?
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Old 29.03.2018, 19:31
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She's a very classy lady.
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She's a very classy lady.
JoelUK obviously does not like classy ladies.
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Old 29.03.2018, 19:49
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JoelUK obviously does not like classy ladies.
What's classy about Melania? The nude photoshoot on Trump's jet, perhaps?
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Old 29.03.2018, 19:55
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What's classy about Melania?
Standing next to Trump???

Roseanne Barr would look (and sound) classy if you put her next to the Orangeuatan!
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Trump's jet...


Is it some kind of metaphore?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Now fighting Amazon.

Personally, I believe a world where Amazon is the only retailer would be very, very dire - but most of my co-workers can't order enough from it.
And we're certainly heading in that direction.

I love that there are still so many brick and mortar shops here.

As I said earlier: Trump would be a great president if he was more coherent and less into his petty twitter battles.

Because while it's clear he has the interest of those owning shopping malls and commercial real-estate in towns in mind, rather than the people visiting the malls (or working there), it's also clear that a demise of all retailers except Amazon would benefit only Amazon.
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Old 29.03.2018, 23:47
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Attorney General Jeff Sessions revealed in a letter to lawmakers Thursday that he had declined to name a second special counsel to investigate allegations of surveillance abuse within the Justice Department, despite pressure from the Republican Party for him to do so.

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Sessions has bigger balls than I had thought, any way his time in his job is limited.
I expect Trump will replace Sessions soon with either his chauffeur or his pilot.
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Old 30.03.2018, 07:05
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Regarding Trump's plan to include a question on citizenship in the 2020 census, why would anyone really be against this?

Illegal immigrants do not have the same rights as American citizens.
If some US state's want to harbor them fine, but they should not be compensated for doing so.

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Regarding Trump's plan to include a question on citizenship in the 2020 census, why would anyone really be against this?

Illegal immigrants do not have the same rights as American citizens.
If some US state's want to harbor them fine, but they should not be compensated for doing so.

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The constitution calls for the census to count of all people. Not citizens, or voters, or etc.

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The language of the Constitution couldn’t be clearer: Congress represents people, not citizens or voters or legal residents. Indeed, the framers of the 14th Amendment considered and rejected the notion of counting citizens alone. Ohio Rep. John Bingham, the principal author of the amendment, explained that it would be foolish to “strike from the basis of representation the entire immigrant population not naturalized.” Why? Because “under the Constitution as it now is and as it always has been, the entire immigrant population of this country is included in the basis of representation.” The census counts all people, immigrants included, and all people receive representation in Congress.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-a-decade.html

For example, US expats abroad are not counted.

Inserting the citizenship Q is an overt attempt to dissuade immigrants from participating, which is explicitly against the wishes of the constitution, which sought to count all people in the census.
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The constitution calls for the census to count of all people. Not citizens, or voters, or etc.
Right, but Trump is still allowing all people, citizens or not, to participate in the census isn't he?

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Inserting the citizenship Q is an overt attempt to dissuade immigrants from participating, which is explicitly against the wishes of the constitution, which sought to count all people in the census.
But the question was asked for a about a century up until 1950 wasn't it? It's not exactly new.

As I said, I don't believe that states which harbor illegal immigrants should be compensated for doing so.
Rather, I think it's only fair that these states will have to start picking up the tab for their misguided liberal policies.

Seems like a smart move from Trump.
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Inserting the citizenship Q is an overt attempt to dissuade immigrants from participating, which is explicitly against the wishes of the constitution, which sought to count all people in the census.
The citizenship question has been asked on the census since 1870. From 1870 to 1950 every household was asked this question. From 1970 to 2000, 1 in 6 households were asked this question.

Since the Civil War, the Obama administration in 2010 and the Eisenhower administration in 1960 are the only instances that citizenship status was not asked.

Keep in mind that the 14th amendment was an attempt to address the policy of slaves counted as 3/5ths a person. It was meant to rectify the fact that despite being born on US soil, slaves were denied their birthright citizenship (jus soli) and counted as "less than man".
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Right, but Trump is still allowing all people, citizens or not, to participate in the census isn't he?


But the question was asked for a about a century up until 1950 wasn't it? It's not exactly new.

As I said, I don't believe that states which harbor illegal immigrants should be compensated for doing so.
Rather, I think it's only fair that these states will have to start picking up the tab for their misguided liberal policies.

Seems like a smart move from Trump.
"I don't believe that states which harbor illegal immigrants should be compensated for doing so. " Would you please explain this point?
The proposed question is about citizenship not legality? Or did I miss something?
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I have stated my concerns with Amazon long before the Election. Unlike others, they pay little or no taxes to state & local governments, use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy (causing tremendous loss to the U.S.), and are putting many thousands of retailers out of business!

1:57 PM - Mar 29, 2018
Amazon’s been paying taxes in California since 2012, and charged customers in all other states, according to the New York Times.

And instead of taking advantage of the U.S. Postal Service, Amazon’s actually one of the few reasons the embattled agency is still around!
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‘It’s well justified that they deliver those packages, and they make money on it,’ says former postmaster general
Probably true about "putting many thousands of retailers out of business!"
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I'm not aware of any allegations of infidelity on the part of Jerry Hall's husband (if he's even capable), but anway you reminded me of the following meme that Trumpanzees trotted out a while ago in support of their Dear Leader:



This really goes a long way toward demonstrating the stupidity and gullibility of Trump's acolytes.

Murdoch is 15 years older than Trump (and by the way, with more than $15 billion today, worth five times as much). When Trump was "just starting to build his empire" at the age of 25, Murdoch was already 40 and extremely wealthy, having built a huge media empire almost from scratch (starting with one newspaper in Adelaide, South Australia, in 1952). He was no paper boy selling newspapers from a newsstand in New York. In fact, he didn't even move to the US until 1974.

Murdoch was rubbing shoulders with Kennedy in 1961 while Trump was still in short trousers:



So no, I wouldn't believe that "that boy was Rupert Murdoch".

Now, I'm not saying that anybody on EF would be stupid enough to believe this sort of blatant, fallacious propaganda, but I'll bet I wouldn't have to look far to find some true Trump believers here who are only too happy to suspend common sense and logic as they worship their Dear Leader.
Lol, I don't believe these memes are believed by anyone. Its like this one about Britney Spears and Steve Jobs its pure satire.

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Although I do think the Flat Earth conspiracy theory that is circumnavigating the web, was put out by people interested to see how far and long a completely ridiculous idea can spread and be maintained on the internet.
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"I don't believe that states which harbor illegal immigrants should be compensated for doing so. " Would you please explain this point?
The proposed question is about citizenship not legality? Or did I miss something?
Because the census determines, among other things, how much federal funding different areas receive.

Democrats are worried that if illegal immigrants are scared off from participating in the census, some of their states may be undercounted and receive less federal funding.

And I think it's only fair, if they want to have sanctuary cities and have a soft stance on illegal immigrants fine, but they shouldn't receive federal funding for doing so.

As I said, it's a smart move from Trump.
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Lol, I don't believe these memes are believed by anyone. Its like this one about Britney Spears and Steve Jobs its pure satire.

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Although I do think the Flat Earth conspiracy theory that is circumnavigating the web, was put out by people interested to see how far and long a completely ridiculous idea can spread and be maintained on the internet.
I follow the Flat Earth thing on Facebook. It's the most magnificent wind-up ever. Of course, the best thing about it are the people who think it's for real and think they're taking the piss out of the Flat Earthers.

There are a couple of people on EF who I can picture doing that...
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