Will Trump be a Good President? - Page 627

greenmount · #**12521** 05.04.2018, 16:48

	Quote:	marton
	Seems some State Governors are saying they will refuse to send their National Guard troops to the Mexico border to control immigration. Do they have that power? I suppose it would finish up in Court about the relevance of the PCA Act? Do the States have to pay for the deployment or does the Federation have to pay?

Wha..? Is Trump afraid of 1000 illegal immigrants? Germany, the size of Montana, received a million not long ago...

#**12522** 05.04.2018, 17:02

	Quote:	greenmount
	Wha..? Is Trump afraid of 1000 illegal immigrants? Germany, the size of Montana, received a million not long ago...

There are nearly 12 million undocumented immigrants (includes visa overstays) in the USA.

Whatever his motives, Trump wants to stop any more from arriving, whether it's 1 or 100,000. Calling out the National Guard makes good political capital, as well as prime time news on Fox.

The "National Guard" brings this to mind every time.

How does this work?

marton · #**12523** 05.04.2018, 17:03

	Quote:	greenmount
	Wha..? Is Trump afraid of 1000 illegal immigrants? Germany, the size of Montana, received a million not long ago...

The history of these caravans is that some of the people apply in Mexico for refugee status and the rest of them roll up to the US border and formally apply to the US border officials for refugee status in the US.
Usually their applications have little success with the US authorities, it is really a nothing burger (to borrow a phrase).

Meanwhile in a new poll "Trump’s Monthly Approval Rating Hits Record Low in March", here.

I do not have much confidence in these polls; I believe a better guide is in the results of the various local and special elections which are showing a strong Dem trend at the moment.

Edit; Trump now back pedalling!

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	Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump The Caravan is largely broken up thanks to the strong immigration laws of Mexico and their willingness to use them so as not to cause a giant scene at our Border. Because of the Trump Administrations actions, Border crossings are at a still UNACCEPTABLE 46 year low. Stop drugs!

From ABC news

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	The "Stations of the Cross" caravans have been held annually in southern Mexico for about 10 years. They began as short processions of migrants, some dressed in biblical garb and carrying crosses, as an Easter-season protest against the kidnappings, extortion, beatings and killings suffered by many Central American migrants as they cross Mexico. In a statement late Monday, Mexico's government said about 400 participants in the caravan had already been sent back to their home countries. "Under no circumstances does the Mexican government promote irregular migration," the Interior Ministry statement said. The department also said that unlike in previous yearly caravans, "this time Mexican immigration authorities have offered refugee status" to participants who qualify.

Source

greenmount · #**12524** 05.04.2018, 19:17

	Quote:
	There are nearly 12 million undocumented immigrants (includes visa overstays) in the USA. Whatever his motives, Trump wants to stop any more from arriving, whether it's 1 or 100,000. Calling out the National Guard makes good political capital, as well as prime time news on Fox. The "National Guard" brings this to mind every time.

Wow. I thought there are some kind of "régularisations" like in other countries - if you prove you have a job, no criminal record etc. Tough.
I know about the DREAM Act, but that would address only those cases who came there as children....if this bill will ever be approved. Europe seems a very welcoming place by comparison..

	Quote:	marton
	The history of these caravans is that some of the people apply in Mexico for refugee status and the rest of them roll up to the US border and formally apply to the US border officials for refugee status in the US. Usually their applications have little success with the US authorities, it is really a nothing burger (to borrow a phrase).

We might be joking a bit on these issues, but wouldn't wish anyone here to be in their place. It's rather depressing to think of so much misery.

3Wishes · #**12525** 05.04.2018, 20:40

	Quote:	marton
	Seems some State Governors are saying they will refuse to send their National Guard troops to the Mexico border to control immigration. Do they have that power? I suppose it would finish up in Court about the relevance of the PCA Act? Do the States have to pay for the deployment or does the Federation have to pay?

Pretty good explanation here:
https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/1719349...tary-explained

marton · #**12526** 05.04.2018, 21:25

	Quote:	3Wishes
	Pretty good explanation here: https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/1719349...tary-explained

Many thanks.

Not covered in this article is that an 1878 law banning federal troops from enforcing domestic laws would limit how much the guardsman can do along the border.

Also the National Guardsmen will be unarmed to avoid antagonising the Mexican Govt. who are against "militarizing the border".

Trump has cited a “caravan” of more than 1,000 Central Americans traveling toward the U.S. southern border as justification for a new crackdown but he has admitted now the Mexican Govt. already stopped the caravan a long, long way from the border. Anyway it is very doubtful reaching the US border was ever a caravan objective.

Actually a classic example of Fox News influencing Trump with fake news.

marton · #**12527** 06.04.2018, 01:10

Something strange about John Bolton who is nominated to replace national security adviser H.R. McMaster; lots of closed door meetings about ethics and conflicts of interest. Might all fade away or might turn into a real problem!!

Blueangel · #**12528** 06.04.2018, 01:26

There's an interesting article that offers some incite regarding the feeling behind this. It's behind the FT paywall, but if you Google 'Don’t get distracted. John Bolton is a huge threat', you should be able to read it.

Verbier · #**12529** 06.04.2018, 08:50

	Quote:	marton
	Something strange about John Bolton who is nominated to replace national security adviser H.R. McMaster; lots of closed door meetings about ethics and conflicts of interest. Might all fade away or might turn into a real problem!!

It seems that Bolton was involved with Cambridge Analytica and the Mercers.

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/04...hn-bolton.html

#**12530** 06.04.2018, 10:02

	Quote:	Blueangel
	There's an interesting article that offers some incite* regarding the feeling behind this.*

Spanky? Have you hacked Blueangel's EF account?

greenmount · #**12531** 06.04.2018, 10:10

	Quote:
	Spanky? Have you hacked Blueangel's EF account?

Don't be such a spelling and grammar far-right winger...

(and there's Autocorrect!)

marton · #**12532** 06.04.2018, 10:53

Trump upping the US trade tariffs to cover $100Bn of Chinese goods. US stock futures hit again but not so much.

Seems most investors believe this is just rhetoric and there will be no trade war. If US tariffs will be implemented then there is first a 60 day process to be followed.

There are also hopes that the US and China can negotiate the tariffs away. It is hard to see how they can negotiate away the fact that Chinese goods are much cheaper than home produced.

They could play to Trump's attachment to the auto industry and make it easier to import US cars into China. Although General Motors, already sells more cars in China (3.9 million) than in the US (3 million) in 2016.

curley · #**12533** 06.04.2018, 11:06

	Quote:	greenmount
	Don't be such a spelling and grammar far-right winger... (and there's Autocorrect!)

Actually that one of Blueangel was almost a Freudian

#**12534** 06.04.2018, 12:55

So, now Trump has told reporters on Air Force One that he had no knowledge of the $130,000 payment that his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, made to Stormy Daniels (real name, Stephanie Clifford) to fulfill the conditions of the famous NDA drawn up between her and Trump that was supposed to buy her silence. Ms Clifford is trying to get out of the NDA, but Trump desperately wants her to be held to it.

Unfortunately for Trump, Ms Clifford's lawyer Michael Avenatti is very quick and very smart:

curley · #**12535** 06.04.2018, 13:05

	Quote:
	So, now Trump has told reporters on Air Force One that he had no knowledge of the $130,000 payment that his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, made to Stormy Daniels (real name, Stephanie Clifford) to fulfill the conditions of the famous NDA drawn up between her and Trump that was supposed to buy her silence. Ms Clifford is trying to get out of the NDA, but Trump desperately wants her to be held to it. Unfortunately for Trump, Ms Clifford's lawyer Michael Avenatti is very quick and very smart:

I want a lawyer who pays my dues for me - and even behind my back, so kind - only available in the US?

Chuff · #**12536** 06.04.2018, 13:35

	Quote:
	So, now Trump has told reporters on Air Force One that he had no knowledge of the $130,000 payment that his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, made to Stormy Daniels (real name, Stephanie Clifford) to fulfill the conditions of the famous NDA drawn up between her and Trump that was supposed to buy her silence. Ms Clifford is trying to get out of the NDA, but Trump desperately wants her to be held to it. Unfortunately for Trump, Ms Clifford's lawyer Michael Avenatti is very quick and very smart:

Trump really is monumentally ****ing stupid. I mean, like, actually an idiot.

I think it speaks volumes for the US political system where people with limited mental faculties in certain areas like Bush Jr (dumb but harmless and benign character) and Trump (a thoughtless, petty, spiteful, irrational, unpredicatable and emotionally unintelligent human being with a harmful character) can rise to the most powerful positions in the world.

amogles · #**12537** 06.04.2018, 14:23

	Quote:	Chuff
	Trump really is monumentally ****ing stupid. I mean, like, actually an idiot. I think it speaks volumes for the US political system where people with limited mental faculties in certain areas like Bush Jr (dumb but harmless and benign character) and Trump (a thoughtless, petty, spiteful, irrational, unpredicatable and emotionally unintelligent human being with a harmful character) can rise to the most powerful positions in the world.

The problem is not America as such.

The problem is an entrenched political system where being the wife or son of an ex president, or TV bigwig or whatever is qualification enough for the job.

The entire prmary process was such a farce. Surely there are better and smarter people out there.

There is one point where Trump is completely right. The swamp needs to be drained. Only Trump isn't showing himself to be the man to do it.

curley · #**12538** 06.04.2018, 14:33

	Quote:	amogles
	The problem is not America as such. The problem is an entrenched political system where being the wife or son of an ex president, or TV bigwig or whatever is qualification enough for the job. The entire prmary process was such a farce. Surely there are better and smarter people out there. There is one point where Trump is completely right. The swamp needs to be drained. Only Trump isn't showing himself to be the man to do it.

The main problem seems to be: You have to be rich to become the US president. That's the basic fault in the system.

Urs Max · #**12539** 06.04.2018, 15:07

	Quote:	amogles
	There is one point where Trump is completely right. The swamp needs to be drained. Only Trump isn't showing himself to be the man to do it.

Please don't tell me you haven't realised long ago that Trump is part of it.

marton · #**12540** 06.04.2018, 15:56

Job growth plummeted in March, Labor Department reported 103,000 new jobs in March, after hitting the high for Donald Trump’s presidency, at 326,000, in February.
Forecast was to rise by 193,000 in March

Source

March unemployment was 4.1 percent, unchanged for the sixth consecutive month, it may just be that the labour market is saturated now?