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Old 10.04.2018, 13:04
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In the same way Brexit wasn't democratic or something.
But the Brexit vote was an absolute majority; the popular vote won.
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Old 10.04.2018, 13:26
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Yes, it is.

Works the same in the US Senate.

And in Switzerland.

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Yep, was just gonna mention that too. Each canton has a vote and the half-cantons have half a vote. In addition to the people voting. But this only comes into use in cases where there will be a change of the constitution, joining an organisation (UN for example) or federal laws which are declared urgent yet have no basis within the constitution. Sorry, German
If the outcome amongst the "Stände" (the cantons) is exactly the same the result is rejective.

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What is the ID requirement in CH?

Not so black and white in the US.

There is no standard ID in the US. Lots of people don’t have passports, and drivers licenses aren’t adequate ID.
Only people who are registered as having the right to vote receive a "Stimmrechtsausweis" and the ballot (mistakes as lately in England have not happened here yet, afaik, correct me if I'm wrong ), this "Stimmrechtsausweis" has to be signed - in the old days only when voting by mail, now always) and handed in with the ballot.
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I think we can all agree, Donald is great

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

And the next one for Trump!


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Old 10.04.2018, 14:23
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Trump is the most powerful man in the world and has demonstrated he is both vindictive and petty.

He has the "big" nuclear button in his hands.

He could cause the death of many of us!

No wonder this thread is so active?
A bit like Obama before him. And a lot of other presidents before that.
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Old 10.04.2018, 14:28
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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When a car is sent to the United States from China, there is a Tariff to be paid of 2 1/2%.
When a car is sent to China from the United States, there is a Tariff to be paid of 25%.
Does that sound like free or fair trade. No, it sounds like STUPID TRADE - going on for years!
Chinese President Xi Jinping promised on Tuesday to open the country’s economy further and lower import tariffs on products including cars.

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Easy for Xi to do and likely Trump would see it as a big win.

Ironically it would likely do nothing much to reduce the trade gap.

The major US car manufacturers already manufacture in China very successfully and at lower costs than in the US.
General Motors sell far more cars in China than in the US (4 million in 2017), Ford have around 4% of the China market.

GM is now shipping vehicles built in China back to be sold in the U.S. They include the following models:

Buick Envision - introduced in China in 2014 it came to the U.S. in 2016.
Cadillac CT6 Plug-In Hybrid - started shipping to U.S. this spring

Even Ford and Volvo are now building a model in China for export to the U.S. They are the Ford Focus, and Volvo S60.
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the closed off Trump!

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Old 10.04.2018, 15:44
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Trump is blowing off the Peru Summit that he planned to attend. Pence will now go in his place. It seems he wants to stay home and watch Fox News.
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Old 10.04.2018, 17:13
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So your vote is worth more if you happen to be in a state with fewer people compared to your electroal college representatives or if there is a chance your state could flip?
Not really. Each state has the same number of Electoral College electors as it has representatives (Senate + House) in Congress. The District of Columbia, which is not represented by a voting member of Congress, gets 3 Electoral College electors. That's equivalent to the number of senators + reps it would have if it was a state.

There are 100 senators - 2 per state. There are 435 members of the House, allocated based on population. The number of House representatives from each state may be adjusted after each census (every 10 years) depending on how much the population of a state has changed up or down.

Total of both houses of Congress = 535. Total EC electors = 538, thanks to DC as mentioned above. Minimum needed to win the EC = 270 (50% + 1 vote).

States can choose how to allocate their electors to the Electoral College. 48 states + DC are winner-takes-all. If a candidate wins the popular vote in his/her state, he/she gets all the EC votes for that state. A few states allocate electors by house district instead. Those are Maine and Nebraska.

There have only been four times (since all states sent electors to the EC) where the person that won the popular vote did not win the EC - 1876, 1888, 2000, and 2016.

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There are 100 senators - 2 per state.

48 states + DC are winner-takes-all. If a candidate wins the popular vote in his/her state, he/she gets all the EC votes for that state.
Those are the parts that make "not really", "really".

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There have only been four times (since all states sent electors to the EC) where the person that won the popular vote did not win the EC - 1876, 1888, 2000, and 2016.
That makes four times too many. And it's interesting to note that on every one of those four occasions, it was the Republican candidate who benefited from the Electoral College rules to take the Presidency, despite losing the popular vote.
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Trump is the most powerful man in the world and has demonstrated he is both vindictive and petty.

He has the "big" nuclear button in his hands.

He could cause the death of many of us!

No wonder this thread is so active?



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Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!
As I posted "He could cause the death of many of us!".
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Old 11.04.2018, 13:48
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As I posted "He could cause the death of many of us!".
The following tweet is even more entertaining

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...32798821568513

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Our relationship with Russia is worse now than it has ever been, and that includes the Cold War. There is no reason for this. Russia needs us to help with their economy, something that would be very easy to do, and we need all nations to work together. Stop the arms race?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Is he asking his twitter followers for advice on foreign policy?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

And off into the sunset rides Paul Ryan...

The midterm elections this year are going to be quite interesting. The smart money is on a presidential bid, challenging Trump for the Republican nomination (unless Trump switches parties again before 2020, of course. )
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Old 11.04.2018, 16:16
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And off into the sunset rides Paul Ryan...

The midterm elections this year are going to be quite interesting. The smart money is on a presidential bid, challenging Trump for the Republican nomination (unless Trump switches parties again before 2020, of course. )
This brings Republican House retirements this session to 40 (including people seeking other offices), for comparison after Nixon resigned only 21 retired.

According to this source the previous record was 27 in 1958!

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Much of the bad blood with Russia is caused by the Fake & Corrupt Russia Investigation, headed up by the all Democrat loyalists, or people that worked for Obama.
Mueller is most conflicted of all (except Rosenstein who signed FISA & Comey letter).
No Collusion, so they go crazy!
Trump’s lead lawyer in the special counsel investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 presidential election, John Dowd, resigned three weeks ago.

Since then Trump has not found a new top lawyer to lead his team so maybe he now thinks his best chance is to fire the people leading the Russian probe?
Seems like it would be a Pyrrhic victory
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Old 11.04.2018, 16:19
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This brings Republican House retirements this session to 40 (including people seeking other offices), for comparison after Nixon resigned only 21 retired.
Now 41
Republican Rep. Dennis Ross (Fla.) is retiring from Congress at the end of the year.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

There are a lot of duplicitous American politicians, but Paul Ryan may take the cake. His fiscal responsibility trope took bad-faith to an art form.

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Ryan repeatedly lambasted the fiscal policies of President Obama and the Democratic party. He charged that Obama "dodged the tough choices necessary to confront the threat of runaway federal spending," and criticized the president for ignoring the recommendations of the bipartisan fiscal commission that he helped create. Under Obama, Ryan said in a 2011 op-ed, "Democrats have simply done away with serious budgeting altogether." Ryan was serious about the deficit. Obama and the Democrats were not.

Ryan's crusade for fiscal rectitude was echoed by the rest of party leadership. The notion that the GOP was the party of fiscal responsibility was a core component of the party's self conception. The 2012 Republican party platform, for example, warned that without "dramatic action now, young Americans and their children will inherit an unprecedented legacy of enormous and unsustainable debt." It promised that the next Republican president would "propose immediate reductions in federal spending, as a down payment on the much larger task of long-range fiscal control." The end game was a balanced federal budget.

In 2012, Mitch McConnell, the top Republican in the Senate, called the debt the "the nation's most serious long-term problem." In the House, John Boehner staged multiple high-profile showdowns over raising the debt limit. The most prominent conservative activist movement of the Obama era was the Tea Party. The Tea Party was a decentralized movement with multiple motivations, but its adherents and boosters frequently cited rising government spending and resulting deficits as a key reason for its existence. During his 2016 campaign, Donald Trump ran on cutting spending and balancing the budget. His math didn't come close to adding up, but the goal was important enough to GOP orthodoxy that he repeatedly made the promise.

Republicans now control both Congress and the White House. Paul Ryan is now the top Republican in the House. Mitch McConnell is now the top Republican in the Senate. Donald Trump is the president.

So you might be forgiven for assuming that under unified Republican control, the federal government's fiscal outlook would have improved—or at the very least, that it would not have become markedly worse.

Yet since winning control of the House, the Senate, and the White House, Republicans have done nothing to shore up the budget. On the contrary, the GOP's two most prominent achievements—an overhaul of the tax code and a spending deal made with congressional Democrats—have combined to make the nation's fiscal future far worse.

The annual deficit is now racing toward $1 trillion. According to a new report from the Congressional Budget Office, over the next decade, deficits will total about $1.8 trillion more than if the tax law had not been passed. If anything, that undercounts the damage. The tax law's individual rate reductions all expire within the decade. Republicans, including Paul Ryan, have said they would like those cuts to be made permanent, and it is hard to imagine that a future Congress will really let them expire. If that were to happen, the deficit increase would balloon by a further $722 billion.

By 2028, the CBO now projects that the national debt will nearly equal the country's entire gross domestic product. The report contextualizes this figure by noting that it is an amount "far greater than the debt in any year since just after World War II." Republicans have set the debt on a trajectory that has little historical precedent.

The $1.3 trillion spending bill that congressional Republicans passed earlier, meanwhile, added $400 billion in new spending over the next two years, breaking the spending caps that were put in place under the previous administration. Its increases were roughly split between domestic and defense, and it ended up funding many Obama-era priorities. As with the temporary tax reductions, the two year increase is likely to have permanent ripple effects, as it's unlikely that Congress will suddenly return to lower spending levels.

This is the opposite of fiscal responsibility. It is, if anything, an active disdain for the sort of fiscal restraint that Republicans so often claimed to support under Obama. And it strongly suggests that the GOP's criticisms were merely opportunistic. Under Trump, Republicans have demonstrated that they are the party of fiscal ruin.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Is it just me or is anybody else a bit worried about the American´s threat to missile Syria and the Russians response that they wanna shoot the rockets down and in return missile the launch pads, which by that they mean the US ships in and around the eastern med?
All this American neocon grrr woof woofery is getting on my nerves and I am a bit Fremdschaming to see that the UK and France are egging the buggers on.
Are they so desperate for a war?
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It's not just you
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