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Old 14.04.2018, 06:30
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

A complete volte face from cadet Bonespurs, surprises me. https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status...204275712?s=21
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Oh Great, we wake up to WW3. Thank you America.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

It's impossible to give any credence to Trump's assertion that his decision to bomb Assad is motivated by protecting Syrian civilians when he has effectively cut off admitting refugees.

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The Trump administration has condemned a suspected chemical weapons strike in Syria and is considering military action. "We are very concerned, when a thing like that can happen, this is about humanity," President Trump said earlier this week.

But humanitarian organizations are challenging the president's commitment to humanity when it comes to Syrian civilians — particularly those seeking refuge in the United States.

In 2016, near the end of Barack Obama's presidency, the U.S. resettled 15,479 Syrian refugees, according to State Department figures. In 2017, the country let in 3,024. So far this year, that number is just 11. By comparison, over the same 3 1/2-month period in 2016, the U.S. accepted 790.

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It's impossible to give any credence to Trump's assertion that his decision to bomb Assad is motivated by protecting the Syrian civilians when he has effectively cut off admitting refugees.
This isn´t Trump´s doing he is just a Neocon puppet, I think we will find that Bolton is the real driving force, that bstward wants to satus quo of the cold war back, probably the last thing he understands.
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It's impossible to give any credence to Trump's assertion that his decision to bomb Assad is motivated by protecting the Syrian civilians when he has effectively cut off admitting refugees.
Well its the usual crew taking the moral high ground, or using the excuse of a moral high ground to do something they have been wanting to do for a long time. Public opinion is an important fulcrum in this, after Russian involvement in conspiracies against western democracy, the use of chemical agents and supporting Syria who according to international agencies has used chemical weapons against civilian populations, public opinion is certainly against Assad and Russia, whether its pro involvement is another question entirely. Also its not only Trump, as he actually promised less involvement in foreign conflicts, but with the UK and France, who are also two nuclear powers, to back up US involvement, we'll see soon how this escalates. Syria has always been a proxy and I don't think there are any official Russian troops still on the ground otherwise the US wouldn't have acted. Still it's bat shit crazy.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

So the rule based system has completely broken down and this has demonstrated that all that is necessary to start WW3 is a shabbily faked video posted on Youtube. Note: I am not saying that the Video was definitely faked, important is the credence which has apparently been given to it.

Nor does this make the world safer from chemical weapons. These are the lessons which could be learnt
a) False flag operations using chemical weapons have now been demonstrated to be an effective instrument to visit a strong attack on an enemy. Chemical weapons will be even more in demand for such tactics.
b) Those who don't have such weapons will realise how easy it is to suffer the consequences of being falsely accused of having them, so might as well have them anyway also to help deter an attack on the based on the assumption that they possess/have used such things. Ironic isn't ?
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Also its not only Trump, as he actually promised less involvement in foreign conflicts, but with the UK and France, who are also two nuclear powers, to back up US involvement, we'll see soon how this escalates. Syria has always been a proxy and I don't think there are any official Russian troops still on the ground otherwise the US wouldn't have acted. Still it's bat shit crazy.
On Russia's side, I don't see a motivation for further escalation. The US was essentially pulling out of Syria, prior to the CW usage, and Russia was effectively dictating the terms of the region. My best guess is that this was the work of a rouge, sadistic Assad agent - not something Russia cosponsored. Hopefully, like the last time Trump bombed Assad, this peters out quickly. What's more concerning this time around is the recent rise to prominence of neocon hawks in the Trump administration, e.g. Bolton, and the fact that further escalation could be seen as a strategy to shift focus from his scandals at home.

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Old 14.04.2018, 10:09
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

As Trump also tweeted long ago

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What will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict? Obama needs Congressional approval.

8:14 PM - Aug 29, 2013
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Old 14.04.2018, 10:43
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Former CIA director: Trump presidency is a 'kakistocracy'

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Meanwhile Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump's personal attorney, has been "under criminal investigation" for months in New York because of his business dealings, the Justice Department said Friday.

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Meanwhile Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump's personal attorney, has been "under criminal investigation" for months in New York because of his business dealings, the Justice Department said Friday.

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Also, Mueller has evidence Cohen was in Prague in 2016, confirming part of dossier

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Confirmation of the trip would lend credence to a retired British spy’s report that Cohen strategized there with a powerful Kremlin figure about Russian meddling in the U.S. election.

It would also be one of the most significant developments thus far in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of whether the Trump campaign and the Kremlin worked together to help Trump win the White House. Undercutting Trump’s repeated pronouncements that “there is no evidence of collusion,” it also could ratchet up the stakes if the president tries, as he has intimated he might for months, to order Mueller’s firing.
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It’s unclear whether Mueller’s investigators also have evidence that Cohen actually met with a prominent Russian – purportedly Konstantin Kosachev, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin — in the Czech capital. Kosachev, who chairs the Foreign Affairs Committee of a body of the Russian legislature, the Federation Council, also has denied visiting Prague during 2016. Earlier this month, Kosachev was among 24 high-profile Russians hit with stiff U.S. sanctions in retaliation for Russia’s meddling.

But investigators have traced evidence that Cohen entered the Czech Republic through Germany, apparently during August or early September of 2016 as the ex-spy reported, said the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is confidential. He wouldn’t have needed a passport for such a trip, because both countries are in the so-called Schengen Area in which 26 nations operate with open borders. The disclosure still left a puzzle: The sources did not say whether Cohen took a commercial flight or private jet to Europe, and gave no explanation as to why no record of such a trip has surfaced.
If Cohen had a clandestine meeting with Kosachev in the midst of the Russian election meddling, the collusion case is a very very strong one.
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What stood out to me most in this was the lady actually letting the reporter talk! Wasn't that a great and very unusual American news-delivery.
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volleys of cruise missiles launched by the United States, Britain and France were limited to three sites linked to Syria’s chemical weapons program and triggered no retaliation. Russia said they did little damage and that most of the cruise missiles targeting Syrian sites had been intercepted by Syrian air defenses, including all of those that were bound for the site from which last week’s alleged chemical attack originated.

World leaders sought to tamp down any tensions associated with the strike.

“This was not about interfering in a civil war and it was not about regime change,” Britain’s Prime Minister Theresa May told a news conference in London. “We expressly sought to avoid escalation and did everything to avoid civilian casualties.”

In Damascus, there was defiance and relief as residents jolted awake by explosions at around 4 a.m. realized the strikes would be limited. Syrian state television broadcast scenes of citizens taking to the streets to celebrate and demonstrate their support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, waving Syrian, Russian and Iranian flags.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.e68c26137263

For better or for worse, the bombings were relatively limited and appear unlikely to incite a larger conflict. The message seems to be "continue your brutal civil war, just don't use chemical weapons."

The same message last year from Trump was ignored. The previous strike targeted a single empty airbase and it was still functional the next day. I suppose targeting 3 sites this time is a slightly louder message?
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Former head of the British Armed Forces had his live interview with Sky News abruptly cut short when he questions the chemical attacks.

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Former head of the British Armed Forces had his live interview with Sky News abruptly cut short when he questions the chemical attacks.

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Former head of the British Armed Forces had his live interview with Sky News abruptly cut short when he questions the chemical attacks.
For the sake of clarity, that interview was broadcast between 15:00-15:30 yesterday and was cut short because the press conference given by the Russian Ambassador massively overran.

p.s. If you have catch up tv, you can still see how it all panned out for yourself. I just remember it because I'd been watching the press conference.
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Oh Great, we wake up to WW3. Thank you America.
...and the UK...and France...share the thanks.
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Also, Mueller has evidence Cohen was in Prague in 2016, confirming part of dossier

If Cohen had a clandestine meeting with Kosachev in the midst of the Russian election meddling, the collusion case is a very very strong one.
This is possibly why the Cohen investigation is handled by a different FBI group so it will continue if Mueller is fired.
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This is possibly why the Cohen investigation is handled by a different FBI group so it will continue if Mueller is fired.
It's also notable that Cohen and Manafort are likely to be charged with a number of crimes in New York's legal jurisdiction. Trump does not have the authority to pardon state legal offenses. Mueller's dream scenario would be to use these higher leverage crimes - because Trump can offer no protection - to flip these two fellas. It won't be easy but these two would be privy to a long list of illicit Trump shenanigans.
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<<strikes on Saturday by the United States and its allies against three Syrian chemical weapons facilities>>

Really? You throw bombs on chemical weapon facilities to teach them a lesson not to use those weapons?
And what happens to the population if those facilities blow up?
Or is the population suffering from chemicals not the point?
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