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Remember this?

Now watch this.

As cringy and awkward as it was, this is effing awful news for Britain. Clearly, America-France is now the "Special Relationship" as we've no longer got a direct line into the EU.

May tried something similarly cringy, but succeeded only in embarrassing herself (and us!).
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As cringy and awkward as it was, this is effing awful news for Britain. Clearly, America-France is now the "Special Relationship" as we've no longer got a direct line into the EU.

May tried something similarly cringy, but succeeded only in embarrassing herself (and us!).
We are all looking forward to Trump's State visit

It seems to have vanished from the calendar
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We are all looking forward to Trump's State visit

It seems to have vanished from the calendar
Funny you should mention that. I just read earlier today that Trump's UK visit is still on, but not as a full-blown state visit. It's thought that he will go in mid-late July.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

“A Higher Loyalty,” book which is billed as ex FBI Director Comey’s thoughts on leadership in its first week outsold Hillary Clinton’s “What Happened” book and and journalist Michael Wolff’s behind-the-scenes White House expose “Fire and Fury”.

Something strangely compelling about Comey's characterization of Trump as a Mafia boss.

Meanwhile French President Emmanuel Macron has used his speech to the joint houses of the US Congress to denounce nationalism and isolationism. The speech was widely interpreted as a thinly veiled attack on President Donald Trump's America First agenda.
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Funny you should mention that. I just read earlier today that Trump's UK visit is still on, but not as a full-blown state visit. It's thought that he will go in mid-late July.
Probably going to tie it in, as an afterthought to a visit to one of his golf courses in Scotland. Thats that relevance the UK has in Trumps mind.
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Spanky duped by "honorable" Kim...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...f-action-china
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Amazing how we are still trying to negotiate with one of the last truly insane despot dictators left in the world. I would support a S.Korea/US/EU coalition invasion and installation of a new democratic government under short-term initial supervision. Long-term it will do the country good.

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Amazing how we are still trying to negotiate with one of the last truly insane despot dictators left in the world. I would support a S.Korea/US/EU coalition invasion and installation of a new democratic government under short-term initial supervision. Long-term it will do the country good.
Lol, that would go down well with China and Russia. And it would be stupid not least because Kim would throw a nuclear bean over the border to S.K or Japan.

Would you be willing to lay down your life for it? Nah.

As for last despot insane dictators,Trump, Putin, Kim, Duerte, Erdogan, here is a list with a few more: https://planetrulers.com/current-dictators/

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President Trump’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, plans to assert his Fifth Amendment rights in the lawsuit filed against him by adult-film star Stormy Daniels.

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TRUMP in September 2016: "The mob takes the Fifth. If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"
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Fox News poll: 56% think Special Counsel Mueller will find Trump committed criminal or impeachable offenses!

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And finally ever more allegations swirl around Admiral Jackson, the nominee for the VA job!
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Lol, that would go down well with China and Russia. And it would be stupid not least because Kim would throw a nuclear bean over the border to S.K or Japan.

Would you be willing to lay down your life for it? Nah.

As for last despot insane dictators,Trump, Putin, Kim, Duerte, Erdogan, here is a list with a few more: https://planetrulers.com/current-dictators/
Yup, we're getting perilously close to WW3 without actually intentionally instigating it.
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Lol, that would go down well with China and Russia. And it would be stupid not least because Kim would throw a nuclear bean over the border to S.K or Japan.

Would you be willing to lay down your life for it? Nah.
What do you want to hear, that I, a civilian living in Switzerland, will sign up to the army and go and fight? Of course I wouldn't and can't, but it doesn't change my opinion that I think it should happen regardless of the inevitable and regrettable loss of life it would bring. I have a feeling based on what I have heard and read that Kim Jong's closest 'friends and advisors' would turn on him very quickly when faced with their own demise. I genuinely think that if ever a country was in actual need of liberation, without any underlying natural resources agendas, it is North Korea. The country is so oppressed and brainwashed that it will anyway take several generations to gain some sense of normality so we may as well start the process of integration and unification with South Korea sooner rather than in 50-100 years when North Korean may be even more advanced with whatever military developments occur in that time. There's probably never been a better time to do it.

I also doubt China would risk open conflict with a united West over an increasingly troublesome political playing card.
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the inevitable and regrettable loss of life it would bring
That's the little problem with your invasion plan, right there. Just how regrettable would you find the loss of 10 million lives (potential casualties if a nuclear device were detonated in Seoul), or a similar number in Tokyo, or even 4 million in Los Angeles?

I don't think that sort of collateral damage would do Trump's re-election chances much good, nor his all-important "ratings".
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Amazing how we are still trying to negotiate with one of the last truly insane despot dictators left in the world. I would support a S.Korea/US/EU coalition invasion and installation of a new democratic government under short-term initial supervision. Long-term it will do the country good.
What usually goes unsaid is the appalling damage any reasonable repair of N. Korea would do to the South Korean economy. It would make German reunification look like a tea party. So, IMHO, there is an unspoken ambiguity in South Korean calls for reunification: fingers crossed behind the back, hoping that what they are calling for never actually happens.
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That's the little problem with your invasion plan, right there. Just how regrettable would you find the loss of 10 million lives (potential casualties if a nuclear device were detonated in Seoul), or a similar number in Tokyo, or even 4 million in Los Angeles?

I don't think that sort of collateral damage would do Trump's re-election chances much good, nor his all-important "ratings".

It depends on a lot of factors. Actual yield, wind, detonation height. Or how "dirty" the bomb is.

https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

The amount of fissionable material they have available to actually build a device is also probably rather limited. And as I said before: it's questionable if they can actually mount it on some sort of ICBM or if it can actually be mobile in any sort of capacity at all.

But NK has enough conventional ordnance to turn downtown Seoul into a crater-blotched mass-grave. Most of its ordnance is concentrated on the border to the South anyway.

One thing seems sure: if he has to go that way, he'll go out with a bang.

I doubt the US is currently in a position to mount any kind of larger military operation that involves an actual invasion and occupation.
The money, the men (and women), the political will, the public support, the coherent post-war strategy - all missing.

And if anything, the last 40 years (going back to the support the US provided to the people who fought the Soviet invaders in Afghanistan, who would later host and support UBL), invading a country and leaving a power-vacuum is almost always worse than leaving things as they are.

My guess would be that once Trump pushes the button, China makes its move and takes over the country. Rather swiftly, I would presume. Puppet-regimes are an 80s thing. These days, it makes much more sense to just skip that step.
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That's the little problem with your invasion plan, right there. Just how regrettable would you find the loss of 10 million lives (potential casualties if a nuclear device were detonated in Seoul), or a similar number in Tokyo, or even 4 million in Los Angeles?

I don't think that sort of collateral damage would do Trump's re-election chances much good, nor his all-important "ratings".
Any significant loss of life is to be lamented, but I believe that that sometimes the ends do justify the means, and I am doubtful as to whether nukes would be detonated by North Korea if the main launch sites were rapidly identified and neutralised, and also because i don't believe they have (yet) miniaturised them enough for putting on missiles.

But anyway as rainer said above, I doubt the will is there to do such a thing and yes, the repercussions on South Korea could potentially more severe than I initially thought. Still, I can't see him going anywhere unless he is deposed by a revolt within his own government.
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Yup, we're getting perilously close to WW3 without actually intentionally instigating it.
We are already in the middle of WWIII we just don't refer to it as such and it isn't being played out in the way we were told it would from 50s onwards, i.e. nuclear armageddon.
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We are already in the middle of WWIII we just don't refer to it as such and it isn't being played out in the way we were told it would from 50s onwards, i.e. nuclear armageddon.
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What do you want to hear, that I, a civilian living in Switzerland, will sign up to the army and go and fight? Of course I wouldn't and can't, but it doesn't change my opinion that I think it should happen regardless of the inevitable and regrettable loss of life it would bring. I have a feeling based on what I have heard and read that Kim Jong's closest 'friends and advisors' would turn on him very quickly when faced with their own demise. I genuinely think that if ever a country was in actual need of liberation, without any underlying natural resources agendas, it is North Korea. The country is so oppressed and brainwashed that it will anyway take several generations to gain some sense of normality so we may as well start the process of integration and unification with South Korea sooner rather than in 50-100 years when North Korean may be even more advanced with whatever military developments occur in that time. There's probably never been a better time to do it.

I also doubt China would risk open conflict with a united West over an increasingly troublesome political playing card.
I agree that Kim is a despot that needs to be gotten rid of, but I don't believe that a US led invasion would bring about more stability in the region, I believe that Russia and China would feel threatened by the act, and I don't think they would be scared of the US, rather the opposite they would increase their war footing, that the region and the world in general would be pushed closer to all out conflict. Historically the west already tried to do this with Korea, hence the 38th Parallel, Russia and China have not forgotten this, patriotism is still stronger then the dollar in those countries.

Anyway the potential civilian loss would also be immense, so I am thankful you are just an armchair keyboard general and actually not in charge of anything. I also believe that unless, you are too ill, elderly or frail to lay down your life in a conflict, then you shouldn't be encouraging one that you wouldn't be prepared to personally fight in and risk your own life for.
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I know you don't get it Loz, but do you have to resort to lazy memes from very poor quality TV series, to get your points across?

I won't go into the definitions of conflict, but they don't all need to be armed, while there is certainly as much, if not more armed conflict occurring now then there has ever been, with exception of WWII. War can be described in many ways, as some commentators are putting it, the second cold war, is now being fought in proxy throughout the M.E. as a spin off of the War on Terror, and its being fought through cyber espionage, which is shaking the foundations of western democracy, our resources and the control of capital. While you personally might not believe any of it, I do think the definition of what constitutes a global conflict is in need of revision and it doesn't need to mean all out armed conflict.
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And Ronny's out. Leaving the Trump Administration before he's even in it, that's a first!



Bye, Ronny!
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