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Seems that Giuliani said what he said (that Trump paid Cohen for paying off Stormy Daniels with his own money) on Fox News deliberately. The point being to avoid accusations of misuse of campaign funds.

But in exchange, he implicitly admits that Trump lied earlier. Getting off that hook is done by saying that the money was part of a large reimbursement of expenses and Trump can't be expected to know the detail. Good luck with that argument in court!
Thanks, lesser of two evils argument!

Also good luck with that argument with Melania!

And agree good luck with that argument in court if Cohen continues to deny he was reimbursed especially if he has already told Mueller that under oath!

Seems to be a desperate ploy
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Also good luck with that argument with Melania!
Sarkozy got divorced and married Carla Bruni whilst in office if I remember rightly. I wonder how that would go down with the American electorate...
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The wheels are definitely coming off this wagon!!

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Mr. Cohen, an attorney, received a monthly retainer, not from the campaign and having nothing to do with the campaign, from which he entered into, through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties, known as a non-disclosure agreement, or NDA.
These agreements are very common among celebrities and people of wealth. In this case it is in full force and effect and will be used in Arbitration for damages against Ms. Clifford (Daniels).
The agreement was used to stop the false and extortionist accusations made by her about an affair despite already having signed a detailed letter admitting that there was no affair.
Prior to its violation by Ms. Clifford and her attorney, this was a private agreement.
Money from the campaign, or campaign contributions, played no roll (sic) in this transaction.
Monthly retainer? Only a week ago "Trump said Cohen handles only "a tiny, tiny little fraction" of the president's "overall legal work" "!

Trump is now describing himself as a person of wealth not a man of the people!

One might think a lawyer wrote the tweet except for the spelling mistake in the last paragraph and the curious grammar in the first paragraph.
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But in exchange, he implicitly admits that Trump lied earlier. Getting off that hook is done by saying that the money was part of a large reimbursement of expenses and Trump can't be expected to know the detail. Good luck with that argument in court!
Trump didn't say anthing under oath, didn't he? So nothing's legally relevant so far. Unfortunately.

The POTUS can't be tried by an ordinary court while in office. What would happen if he were proven to have lied under oath during an impeachment? Could he even be tried for perjury (if that's what it would be) while in office, would prosecution be postponed?
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One might think a lawyer wrote the tweet except for the spelling mistake in the last paragraph and the curious grammar in the first paragraph.
"Money from the campaign, or campaign contributions, played no roll (sic) in this transaction."

Whatever could he/they have been thinking about?

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I thought the Michelle Wolf section was very poor, the segment causing the furore was just mean and tbh pretty unfunny, 'maybe she's born with it, maybe it's just lies, it's probably lies' what?
I agree. If she'd actually been funny perhaps people would have been less inclined to take offence.
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Sarkozy got divorced and married Carla Bruni whilst in office if I remember rightly. I wonder how that would go down with the American electorate...
And Mitterand had a mistress whilst in office, with whom he fathered a child.
Oh ze Frenchies, you know?
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Old 03.05.2018, 16:41
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"Money from the campaign, or campaign contributions, played no roll (sic) in this transaction."

Whatever could he/they have been thinking about?
The husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway (who is often on TV defending Trump) shared a link to Federal Election Commission (FEC) rules after it was revealed that President Trump reimbursed his personal attorney for paying adult-film star Stormy Daniels hush money.

Seems to blow Giuliani's arguments out of the water!!

The link, which points to rules on personal loans.

"If any person, including a relative or friend of the candidate, gives or loans the candidate money 'for the purpose of influencing any election for federal office,' the funds are not considered personal funds of the candidate even if they are given to the candidate directly," the FEC rules read.
"Instead, the gift or loan is considered a contribution from the donor to the campaign, subject to the per-election limit and reportable by the campaign. This is true even if the candidate uses the funds for personal living expenses while campaigning."

The fact that on "Hannity," Giuliani said Trump repaid Cohen "over several months" could mean it would be considered as a loan which would make it worse for Trump?

Of course, Giuliani has not practised law for many years
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Sarkozy got divorced and married Carla Bruni whilst in office if I remember rightly. I wonder how that would go down with the American electorate...
I don't think the average Amerikan knows who Szakorzi is, nor cares who she is married to.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

I am not sure whether Giuliani is trying to help Trump or sink him!

Trump is claiming the Stormy payment was nothing to do with his campaign.

So what did Giuliani say during his Fox News interview with Hannity?

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When pressed why Cohen paid Daniels any money at all, Giuliani said Cohen made the allegations go away, which was his job.

“Imagine if that came out of Oct. 15, 2016, in the middle of the last debate with Hillary Clinton?" Giuliani asked.
Even Fox News seems to be skeptical
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Fox senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano said Thursday that it is “unworthy of belief” that President Trump reimbursed his personal attorney Michael Cohen and didn't know the money was being used to silence adult-film star Stormy Daniels about an alleged 2006 affair with Trump.
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Old 03.05.2018, 22:16
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

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As everybody is aware, the past Administration has long been asking for three hostages to be released from a North Korean Labor camp, but to no avail. Stay tuned!

2:53 AM - 3 May 2018
That was pretty far seeing of the past Administration as two out of the three were arrested in Spring 2017, long after Trump's inauguration
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The GOP has enough fissures on their policies without the retiring GOP House leader Ryan starting a religious dispute by firing the Catholic House Chaplain for dubious reasons.
Then the man chairing the committee to replace him poured oil on the flames by saying they were looking for a family man with adult children which clearly rules out celibate Catholic priests.

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The Chaplain Conroy has now withdrawn his resignation.

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Meanwhile the man chairing the committee to replace him has resigned after many complaints about his anti Catholic statements; probably these were not linked to the fact he is a Southern Baptist preacher.

Edit: House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said in a statement Thursday that he has accepted a request from Conroy to rescind his resignation letter.

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Trump didn't say anthing under oath, didn't he? So nothing's legally relevant so far. Unfortunately.

The POTUS can't be tried by an ordinary court while in office. What would happen if he were proven to have lied under oath during an impeachment? Could he even be tried for perjury (if that's what it would be) while in office, would prosecution be postponed?
Of course he could -- just ask Bill Clinton, who was impeached (i.e. tried) for perjury while in office as President!
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Fox News spanking for Trump here for making contradictory statements, only mentioned because Fox News are usually classed as Trump supporters.
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I am not sure whether Giuliani is trying to help Trump or sink him!
They would make a great double act.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The White House physician assigned to Vice President Mike Pence, Jennifer Pena, has resigned, his office told CNN in a statement Friday. Pena worked in the White House Medical Unit.

This comes after CNN reported Tuesday that Pence's doctor privately raised alarms within the White House last fall that President Donald Trump's doctor Ronny Jackson may have violated federal privacy protections for a key patient
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Meanwhile Giuliani "is seeking to clarify (walk back) comments he made" on Fox News Tuesday about Trump, Cohen and Stormy.
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Nunes demands Justice Department records including threatening to subpoena Deputy AG Rosenstein. Then he doesn't read them.
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As I have posted too many times "you could not make this stuff up"!!

Edit: Stormy Daniels lawyer on Trump and Giuliani: '"Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Trump are making it up as they go along. Never before has that old adage been more appropriate: “Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive” - W. Scott.
How stupid do they think all of us are?'
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Old 04.05.2018, 23:24
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Still Friday - just!

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Giuliani told CNN on Thursday that he had spoken with the President both before and after his appearance with Hannity
"You won't see daylight between me and the President," he said
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Trump on Giuliani: He'll get his facts straight!
“He started yesterday,” Trump incorrectly said of Giuliani, who was hired on April 19. “He’ll get his facts straight. He’s a great guy.”
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Giuliani is in the advanced stages of dementia. Look at his tongue movements and the way he moves. You're fired!!Name:  Trump_Youre_Fired_02.jpg
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Stormy's lawyer Michael Avenatti is a first class tweeter, maybe he should stand for US President?

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“The payment was made to resolve a personal and false allegation in order to protect the president’s family,” Giuliani said in a statement released Friday. “It would have been done in any event, whether he was a candidate or not.”

Really? Let's test this most recent claim...

For over 9 yrs after the end of the affair - 2007, 08, 09, 10, 11 (In Touch), 12, 13, 14, 15, and 16 (Jan-Sept) - Mr. Trump had a family. And yet no payment was ever made to "protect them."
Then, two weeks before the election, the payment was suddenly made. #WeAreNotStupid #basta
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Now Stormy has a web site here selling amongst other stuff anti-Trump T shirts.

Eye watering prices but I suppose a girl has to make a living
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Allegedly aides to Donald Trump, the US president, hired an Israeli private intelligence agency to orchestrate a “dirty ops” campaign against key individuals from the Obama administration who helped negotiate the Iran nuclear deal, the Observer can reveal.

People in the Trump camp contacted private investigators in May last year to “get dirt” on Ben Rhodes, who had been one of Barack Obama’s top national security advisers, and Colin Kahl, deputy assistant to Obama, as part of an elaborate attempt to discredit the deal.

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Jack Straw, who was foreign secretary between 2001 and 2006, said: “The campaign against the JCPOA has been characterised by abuse and misinformation.
It is the best chance of ensuring Iran never develops a nuclear weapons programme, and it is insane to suggest abandoning the deal could do anything but endanger international security.”

Meanwhile Rudy Giuliani called President Donald Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, "disposable"during his bizarre interview with Hannity on Fox News Wednesday night.
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