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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

You might have read today about Trump trying to help the Chinese telecom company ZTE get back into the US.

This is a little twist in the story from Policususa.

"The White House had no answer when asked about $500 million in funding that the Trump Organization is getting from the Chinese government for a project in Indonesia and couldn’t explain how this is not an Emoluments Clause violation.

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Q: The Trump Organization is involved in a project in Indonesia building hotels, golf course, residences. It is getting up to $500 million in backing from the Chinese government. Can you tell — or explain the administration’s perspective on, a, how this wouldn’t violate the emoluments clause, and, B, how it wouldn’t violate the president’s own promise that his private organization would not be getting involved in new foreign deals while he was president?

Raj Shah: I’ll have to refer you to the Trump Organization.

Q: No. But I mean the trump organization can’t speak on behalf of the president as the president, the head of the federal government, the one who is responsible, who needs to assure the American people.

Shah: You’re asking about a private organization’s dealings that may have to do with a foreign government. That’s not something that I can speak to.

Since Trump has not separated himself from the Trump Organization, the money from China is illegal

Donald Trump never divested himself from the Trump Organization, which is why Raj Shah couldn’t answer the question. The Chinese government is giving $500 million to an organization that the President Of The United States is still involved in.

Article I Sec. 9 of the Constitution prohibits any, “Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under [the United States]” from accepting “any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”

It is not a coincidence that Trump wants to help Chinese telecom ZTE that was sanctioned for dealing with Iran after the Chinese government gave the Trump Organization $500 million. The Chinese bought their way out of crippling sanctions. Trump isn’t just corrupt. He’s criminal, and reporters to call out this corruption each day during the White House briefing. Reporters may not get answers, but they need to open the eyes of the American people to what is the real motivation behind this administration’s decisions."

Link (with video of questions): https://www.politicususa.com/2018/05...kicckback.html
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Old 14.05.2018, 22:45
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You might have read today about Trump trying to help the Chinese telecom company ZTE get back into the US.

This is a little twist in the story from Policususa.

"The White House had no answer when asked about $500 million in funding that the Trump Organization is getting from the Chinese government for a project in Indonesia and couldn’t explain how this is not an Emoluments Clause violation.

Transcript:

Q: The Trump Organization is involved in a project in Indonesia building hotels, golf course, residences. It is getting up to $500 million in backing from the Chinese government. Can you tell — or explain the administration’s perspective on, a, how this wouldn’t violate the emoluments clause, and, B, how it wouldn’t violate the president’s own promise that his private organization would not be getting involved in new foreign deals while he was president?

Raj Shah: I’ll have to refer you to the Trump Organization.

Q: No. But I mean the trump organization can’t speak on behalf of the president as the president, the head of the federal government, the one who is responsible, who needs to assure the American people.

Shah: You’re asking about a private organization’s dealings that may have to do with a foreign government. That’s not something that I can speak to.

Since Trump has not separated himself from the Trump Organization, the money from China is illegal

Donald Trump never divested himself from the Trump Organization, which is why Raj Shah couldn’t answer the question. The Chinese government is giving $500 million to an organization that the President Of The United States is still involved in.

Article I Sec. 9 of the Constitution prohibits any, “Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under [the United States]” from accepting “any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”

It is not a coincidence that Trump wants to help Chinese telecom ZTE that was sanctioned for dealing with Iran after the Chinese government gave the Trump Organization $500 million. The Chinese bought their way out of crippling sanctions. Trump isn’t just corrupt. He’s criminal, and reporters to call out this corruption each day during the White House briefing. Reporters may not get answers, but they need to open the eyes of the American people to what is the real motivation behind this administration’s decisions."

Link (with video of questions): https://www.politicususa.com/2018/05...kicckback.html
President-elect Donald J. Trump said late Monday night (12.12.2016) that “no new deals will be done” by his real estate business while he is in the Oval Office.

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Shortly before taking office, he walked that pledge back to only apply to the company’s international business!

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I assume Indonesia is not "international"?
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Learned a new word this morning: Trumplomacy.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44114625

More accurate would be Trumpidiocy methinks.
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In fairness Marton, Trump thinks Indonesia sits between Ohio and Illinois.
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Learned a new word this morning: Trumplomacy.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44114625

More accurate would be Trumpidiocy methinks.
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So many deaths and for what? A campaign promise
You are starting to scare me, marton. How could you post a link yesterday (14.5.18) to an article that was published today?

Or is the telegraph one of these news-papers that simply changes the news every day instead of delivering the latest chronologically? (Not professional if so as development can not be traced.)
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Wow, what a law. Why list the rest specially?
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You are starting to scare me, marton. How could you post a link yesterday (14.5.18) to an article that was published today?

Or is the telegraph one of these news-papers that simply changes the news every day instead of delivering the latest chronologically? (Not professional if so as development can not be traced.)
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Trumplicity? This could be a good game!!
They've renamed a city in Israel after him, Trumpuselam!
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So long as they don't make him Rabbi Trump we can still have hope.
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You are starting to scare me, marton. How could you post a link yesterday (14.5.18) to an article that was published today?
With ongoing situations such as this, newspaper websites often just update an existing page.
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With ongoing situations such as this, newspaper websites often just update an existing page.
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Wow, what a law. Why list the rest specially?
It's making it clear that there is no lower limit to what may be accepted. No present at all, of any kind. No emolument at all, of any kind... etc.

Maybe that's the real reason why M. Macron's tree was dug up out of the White House lawn!
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I've noticed that. Don't like it at all though.
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So long as they don't make him Rabbi Trump we can still have hope.
Based on the apparent dismal standard of education in the NY Hasidic community, he's more than qualified .
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Based on the apparent dismal standard of education in the NY Hasidic community, he's more than qualified .
Thanks for that link. Very interesting.
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Today is the deadline for President Trump to file his financial disclosure form for 2017.
He needs to decide whether to disclose the debt he incurred to his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, when Cohen paid $130,000 to Stormy just before the election. He did not declare it in 2016.
Trump now has to disclose any liability he had over $10,000 at any point in 2017.
Thanks to Giuliani, Trump’s excuse for not disclosing this liability has now evaporated.
Cohen and/or his company may have made payments for Trump to other women as well. If so will Trump list these liabilities?

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Cohen and/or his company may have made payments for Trump to other women as well. If so will Trump list these liabilities?
If he payed there is not liability?

What exactly is the problem with this?
  1. That he had extramarital sex?
  2. That he didn't tell the world about it?
  3. That he payed the woman to keep quiet about it? (is that a crime? )
  4. That he doesn't want to admit it to the world although the world seems to have no other problems?
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If he payed there is not liability?

What exactly is the problem with this?
  1. That he had extramarital sex?
  2. That he didn't tell the world about it?
  3. That he payed the woman to keep quiet about it? (is that a crime? )
  4. That he doesn't want to admit it to the world although the world seems to have no other problems?
Maybe the fact he lied about it whilst in office?
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