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17.05.2018, 08:05
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And more shit from this criminal Trump. He calls emigrants " these animals ". The USA was built by emigrants. Someone should " take care " of Trump! https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/u...s-animals.html | 
17.05.2018, 08:53
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | immigrants not emigrants!
Some facts about Trump;
3 wives, all immigrants
Mother Scottish
Grandfather German
He is just rabble rousing!
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17.05.2018, 08:58
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That's funny. My mother is also Scottish and my great grandfather in German. What a coincidence. Where did he go wrong? | Quote: | |  | | | immigrants not emigrants!
Some facts about Trump;
3 wives, all immigrants
Mother Scottish
Grandfather German
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17.05.2018, 09:09
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Lol, awesome decontextualization. It is amusing.
Before you, guys, get excited about next possible outrage, read the article. He was refering to criminals that yanks keep weeding out. MS-13. I do not think his grampa was in it.
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17.05.2018, 09:14
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It is almost Friday
Giuliani says FBI may have placed spy in Trump campaign Source
SNL cast member: Trump faked a phone call about book sales. The claim is that during a meeting Trump pretended to get a phone call saying his book "Art of the Deal" was No. 1! Source
Comically it seems at least two books about Trump (Authors Comey, Wolff) have far outsold Trump's book.
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17.05.2018, 09:15
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | immigrants not emigrants!
Some facts about Trump;
3 wives, all immigrants
Mother Scottish
Grandfather German
He is just rabble rousing! | | | | | How is Marla Maples an immigrant? She was born in Georgia (the USA one) and I think her parents were both American-born, too.
Maybe that's where Trump went wrong. He thought he was marrying another Eastern bloc woman.
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17.05.2018, 09:37
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Unfortunately, USA has become just another country. We've seen that in Europe too but we're (sort of) expecting that. Even though USA was built by immigrants, apparently is not an immigration country anymore.
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17.05.2018, 09:39
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Well better to do what Israel does. Shoot them at the border. No questions asked! | Quote: | |  | | | Lol, awesome decontextualization. It is amusing.
Before you, guys, get excited about next possible outrage, read the article. He was refering to criminals that yanks keep weeding out. MS-13. I do not think his grampa was in it. | | | | | | 
17.05.2018, 09:42
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Lol, awesome decontextualization. It is amusing.
Before you, guys, get excited about next possible outrage, read the article. He was refering to criminals that yanks keep weeding out. MS-13. I do not think his grampa was in it. | | | | | So now it is OK to call criminals animals?
Don't forget all illegal immigrants are criminals because they are illegal immigrants and broke the immigration laws.
Some facts
MS-13 is well established in the U.S. and has many U.S. citizens in its ranks — people who can’t be denied entry based on their nationality, or deported.
In notable raids on MS-13 in 2015 and 2016, most of the people caught were found to be U.S. citizens. Source
When Trump says "we’re taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that’s never happened before" this is typical Trump rhetoric
According to the official US Govt. ICE statistics in 2017, 226,119 illegal aliens were removed; this is a lower number of removals than in any year during the Obama administration. Source
There are no statistics about how many of the removals were MS-13 but since many of the gang members are US citizens it is not likely to be many.
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | How is Marla Maples an immigrant? She was born in Georgia (the USA one) and I think her parents were both American-born, too.
Maybe that's where Trump went wrong. He thought he was marrying another Eastern bloc woman. | | | | | Ooops, I will go and stand in the corner.
Anyway two out of three is not bad!
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17.05.2018, 09:56
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | That's funny. My mother is also Scottish and my great grandfather in German. What a coincidence. Where did he go wrong? | | | | | Did he?
It seems to lead to "headline talking".
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The latest is he wants to change the name of State penitentiary to Zoo
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| | | Quote: | |  | | | MS-13 is well established in the U.S... | | | | | And outside of the US.
Let me quote myself again, just for you, marton, context: | Quote: |  | | | He was refering to criminals that yanks keep weeding out. MS-13. | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Did he?
It seems to lead to "headline talking". | | | | | Headline misinterpretting, rather.
Aren't we a creative bunch.
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | And outside of the US.
Let me quote myself again, just for you, marton, context: | | | | | It is still dangerous rabble rousing; before you know it we will have vigilantes shooting suspected "animals". | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | It is still dangerous rabble rousing; before you know it we will have vigilantes shooting suspected "animals".  | | | | | Maybe that is your way of interpreting it. And why shouldn't you be entitled to it. But it is still your interpretation. Taking one single word out of context and overinterpreting it just to actually go back and read up what it refers to - he got you exactly where he wanted you...actually reading the context.
Btw, "dangerous rabble rousing" refers to MS-13 or Trump?
Ok, that was a rhetorical question.
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17.05.2018, 10:54
| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | Lol, awesome decontextualization. It is amusing.
Before you, guys, get excited about next possible outrage, read the article. He was refering to criminals that yanks keep weeding out. MS-13. I do not think his grampa was in it. | | | | | Then call them criminals, the purpose of calling them animals is to dehumanise them, so his supporters don't care about any human rights abuses. Straight out of the dictators playbook.
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: |  | | | Then call them criminals, the purpose of calling them animals is to dehumanise them, so his supporters don't care about any human rights abuses. Straight out of the dictators playbook. | | | | | It is imho false to assume that Trump's supporters do not care about human rights.
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | It is imho false to assume that Trump's supporters do not care about human rights. | | | | | But do they care about animal rights? | The following 2 users would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | But do they care about animal rights?  | | | | | If you think about it, both the major US parties have an animal as their totem or symbol, donkey or elephant. And both of those animals were initially applied as insults by the other side, but came to be a badge of honour.
Comparing people to animals, even past (and present) presidents, seems to fairly normal in the US. | The following 2 users would like to thank amogles for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: Will Trump be a Good President? | Quote: | |  | | | But do they care about animal rights?  | | | | | Lol. Yeah..well.
I think I have heard "you animal,you!" before. 
I tend to think that the most outraged left press (NYT looks like to be), will gladly accuse Trump to be inhumane when he calls MS-13 criminals "animals" for the inhuman acts they do. The gravity of Trump calling them animals and the acts MS-13 do, don't compare. PCness or those who abuse it will deliberately sway people's attention to that, though. Human rights of criminals when Trump speech was about protecting the human rights or lives of those who might be affected by immigrated MS-13. Context.
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