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I suppose one could argue that we EF users, residents of a little country in the middle of Europe, far, far away from the USA, aren't really in any position to know much about Trump, let alone judge whether his behaviour befits his office.
I still find it amazing that Trump spent decades in the public eye but it was only once he became a serious contender for President that everyone remembered what a racist bigot he actually is.

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Ok well lets explore that, we know this whitehouse leaks like a sieve, we know also it is like a revolving door of staff changes many of whom have left disgruntled. Don't you think that, amongst the myriad of leaks, or from one of the many insiders to be shown the door we would have heard some mention of this strategy and the group implementing it?
Are you saying he became potus only thanks to his strategic planning? Does that make one smart or does that make one smart..
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Old 06.06.2018, 22:28
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I still find it amazing that Trump spent decades in the public eye but it was only once he became a serious contender for President that everyone remembered what a racist bigot he actually is.
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Like most Trump supporters you copy Trump & simply invent stories without any evidence or checking the facts
Trump has long ago qualified as racist

May 2, 2011 - (CNN) -- An unapologetic Donald Trump insisted Sunday that he is "the least racist" when pressed as to whether racism motivated his recent focus on President Obama

Apr 30, 2011 - On Real Time last night, Bill Maher accused Donald Trump of being a racist for being one of the people questioning how Barack Obama got into Harvard,

Apr 28, 2011 - Donald Trump claimed victory after President Obama released his birth certificate ... critics are now blasting the noisy real estate baron for thinly-veiled racism.

OCT. 23, 2002 ''Trump is a chump!'' protesters shouted during a recent demonstration, accusing Mr. Trump of, at least, further inflaming passions and perhaps tainting the defendants' future jurors. Some called him a racist.
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Are you saying he became potus only thanks to his strategic planning? Does that make one smart or does that make one smart..
Given that he's 71 and morbidly obese, you have to assume his best years are behind him. He's potentially going to be in the office until he is 78 which will leave him a life expectancy of about minus 14 years. He's a billionaire (apparently) who has given up any chance of enjoying his money to work 24/7 (apparently) for the remainder of his enjoyable life.

Smart guy.
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Ok well lets explore that, we know this whitehouse leaks like a sieve, we know also it is like a revolving door of staff changes many of whom have left disgruntled. Don't you think that, amongst the myriad of leaks, or from one of the many insiders to be shown the door we would have heard some mention of this strategy and the group implementing it?
The obvious conclusion is that this 'sieve' only leaks what it wants to leak.

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The obvious conclusion is that this 'sieve' only leaks what Putin wants to leak.
In Russia, sieve leaks you.
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Old 06.06.2018, 23:32
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Here we go again, another clown in Trump's entourage who can't keep his pie-hole shut

Giuliani: Kim Jong-un 'begged' for summit to take place

Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani has said North Korea's leader "begged" for their summit to be rescheduled after the US president cancelled it.
Speaking at a conference in Israel, Mr Giuliani said Mr Trump's tough stance had forced Pyongyang's hand.
Mr Trump called off the summit in May, accusing North Korea of "tremendous anger and open hostility".
But plans for the 12 June bilateral in Singapore were revived after a conciliatory response from Pyongyang.
Mr Giuliani was speaking at an investment conference in Israel when he made the remark.
The Wall Street Journal first reported that Mr Giuliani said:"Well, Kim Jong-un got back on his hands and knees and begged for it, which is exactly the position you want to put him in."

There was no immediate response from the North Koreans to his comments.

How this story has developed
10 May: Trump says he will meet Kim in Singapore on 12 June
12 May: North Korea announces dismantling of test site
16 May: North threatens to scrap summit over comments by US National Security John Bolton about "Libyan model"
18 May: Trump distances himself from Bolton, saying US is not pushing for Libya-style denuclearisation
22 May: Trump insists that unless the US gets "certain conditions... we won't have the meeting"
24 May: Trump cancels the summit, blaming "tremendous anger and open hostility"
1 June: Trump announced the Singapore summit is back on after talks with senior North Korean envoy General Kim Yong-chol
Mr Trump said on Tuesday that plans were "moving along very nicely".

The anticipated summit nearly was derailed in May when US National Security Adviser John Bolton compared the North Korea situation to Libya.

Mr Bolton had said Pyongyang could follow a "Libya model" of verifiable denuclearisation, alarming Pyongyang, which watched Libya's Colonel Gaddafi give up his nuclear programme only for him to be killed by Western-backed rebels a few years later.
North Korea's foreign ministry released an angry statement singling out Mr Bolton. Mr Trump later distanced himself from his adviser's remarks.

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Top Republicans break with Trump over "Spygate", say FBI acted appropriately.

House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Intelligence Chairman Richard Burr, both Republicans, broke with President Donald Trump on Wednesday over allegations spies infiltrated his 2016 campaign, saying they agree with GOP Rep. Trey Gowdy that the FBI did "exactly" what it should have done over its handling of a confidential source.

The declarations by the leading Republicans are the latest indications that Trump lacks any evidence to back up his claims of a major political scandal he calls "spygate" -- since those lawmakers were among a select group briefed on the classified intelligence at issue.

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Hopefully the GOP will continue to push back against major Trump "untruths" and demonstrate they continue to back their own policies?
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Are you saying he became potus only thanks to his strategic planning? Does that make one smart or does that make one smart..
I didn't say anything remotely like that, how did you get there from what I wrote?

I said that there is no super secret group implementing some genius strategy because the leakiness of the white house means we'd have heard of it.

Go on Tom, hit the groan button, you have my permission.
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The obvious conclusion is that this 'sieve' only leaks what it wants to leak.

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Love how you put emoticons in lieu of argument, it has the debating weight of saying 'end of'

So, the 'obvious' answer is that there is some super secret group following a well defined strategy and tightly controlling the information that is leaked?. Then whining about the unfair press for reporting what they were leaked? yeah, really 'obvious' conclusion.

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I didn't say anything remotely like that, how did you get there from what I wrote?

I said that there is no super secret group implementing some genius strategy because the leakiness of the white house means we'd have heard of it.

Go on Tom, hit the groan button, you have my permission.


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Hopefully the GOP will continue to push back against major Trump "untruths" and demonstrate they continue to back their own policies?
Won't matter much I'm afraid. If you repeat a lie often enough it will eventually be believed. After all he promised to drain the swamp so that's what he'll do, right?
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Given that he's 71 and morbidly obese..
Are you fatshaming somebody? Should I start calling you Dyson? You quite often engage in prescribing for others what's moral to make fun of and what's not.

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He's potentially going to be in the office until he is 78 ..
There we go. Trump wants you to imagine that option. It works. Smart guy.

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He's a billionaire (apparently) who has given up any chance of enjoying his money to work 24/7 (apparently) for the remainder of his enjoyable life.
I don't think he is in it for cash.

I also think he is already enjoying himself.
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Like most Trump supporters you copy Trump & simply invent stories without any evidence or checking the facts
Trump has long ago qualified as racist
For someone who has spent decades in the limelight to be so obviously racist, he has done really well to never have been convicted of racial abuse, discrimination or the like.

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For someone who has spent decades in the limelight to be so obviously racist, he has done really well to never have been convicted of racial abuse, discrimination or the like.
One of the benefits of being a billionaire
As early as 1973 he was accused by the Justice Department of violations of the Fair Housing Act in the operation of 39 buildings. The government alleged that Trump's corporation quoted different rental terms and conditions to blacks and made false "no vacancy" statements to blacks for apartments they managed in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island.
Trump settled the charges out of court in 1975.
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Trump settled the charges out of court in 1975.
..."without admitting guilt"
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..."without admitting guilt"
Well settling out of court is sort of admitting guilt. But it was 1970 New York so corruption was rife and so was racism.

As for historical racism in the Trump family, there are rumours to that effect.

Were you on holiday KK? We were plodding along happily without you there for a while.
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No. It's not.

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Were you on holiday KK? We were plodding along happily without you there for a while.
Sorry to interrupt your circle jerk Toby.
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No. It's not.
Yeah it is.

There are enough other Jerks about mate.
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